Now that WINN Columbus, IN dropped oldies & Dick Bartely, does anyone know of a list of stations that carry his live Saturday Night show? Dick Bartley.com is of no help...he's very careful to not include any way of contacting him, except through ABC via phone if you want to carry his show.
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Dick Bartley
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BobOnTheJob said:Now that WINN Columbus, IN dropped oldies & Dick Bartely, does anyone know of a list of stations that carry his live Saturday Night show? Dick Bartley.com is of no help...he's very careful to not include any way of contacting him, except through ABC via phone if you want to carry his show.
I'm a long way from Indiana, so I can't help you in that regard, but it does beg the question...how do shows like this compare affiliate-wise compared to 10-20 years ago? Back in the 80s/early 90s it seemed 'most every AC carried either Bartley or Mike Harvey (is he still around?) but I haven't heard either one for years. Back in those days it was probably cheaper to carry one of these shows on Saturday night and have a minimum-wage board op than it was to have a live jock (and probably a higher quality show too), but these days with voicetracking being the rule it doesn't really save the station anything. Indeed, it might cost more for a station that didn't already have a dish.
That's a good question. I do know that in the past year, WGRR in Cincinnati has dropped Dick as they have ventured in a more classic hits direction. 99.9 in Dayton is an AC that still carries him. Personally I think Dick Bartley blows away Mike Harvey. I've heard Mike in the past year on the Anderson, IN oldies station. Mike has went hog wild with the disco & even some early 80's stuff. Dick Bartley has stayed away from that with Old Time Rock & Roll from 1979 being about as current as he gets...and 1979 is very rare on his show at that. Dick is also on Magic 102.7/Miami which isn't a pure oldies station, but sounds great just the same.
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Don62
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Yeah, Mike Harvey sounds like he doesn't remember what oldies are anymore.BobOnTheJob said:Personally I think Dick Bartley blows away Mike Harvey. ... Mike has went hog wild with the disco & even some early 80's stuff. Dick Bartley has stayed away from that with Old Time Rock & Roll from 1979 being about as current as he gets...and 1979 is very rare on his show at that.
Abba? Andy Kim? Bee Gees? All the time?
I don't know where this fascination with the faddish and not that big really disco comes from.
This is crap compared to what he used to play.
His show isn't carried much anywhere (nor is Dick's unfortunately) but the other night, after coming out of an incredibly long (joke) 2-song stopset of the BEE GEES, into a commercial break, he said, "We'll trip back to the grroovy 60s."
What was his definition of the 60s? The last songs of the Beatles in '69. Hardly going full bore into the great 60s era.
Also, he can't stop pitching that senior living center he lives in. Who does he think his audience is? Geezers? This is 70s music, not 60's music where people would be more realistically ready to think about retiring.
For my money, Truckin Tom Kent is the best. WGRR carried his show 7 nights a week until being traded to another broadcasting company. He would sometimes play songs that never get airplay on most 60s/70s stations. Seems like Dick Bartley slipped into just playing the "hits", and not any forgotten gems
jcr said:For my money, Truckin Tom Kent is the best.
Agreed. His staccato-syllables-with-the-beat-of-the-song deal is overdone to the point of being annoying where it was once effective, but he sounds alive and connected. His show is always fun to listen to. Hearing Bartley a couple of times recently, I was surprised how stale and dated he sounds. Haven't heard Harvey lately.
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Don62
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Good observation. I never or rarely hear any gems such as I'm Going To Be Strong byjcr said:Seems like Dick Bartley slipped into just playing the "hits", and not any forgotten gems
Gene Pitney, or Last Kiss, by J. Frank Wilson and The Cavaliers, both from '64.
jcr said:For my money, Truckin Tom Kent is the best.
Who? Never heard of him. Is this a syndicated show or a local/regional one?
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Don62
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I used to like to listen to Dick Bartley. He was my oldies man. His show introduced me to the world of oldies, which sounded much better than the music I was hearing on the radio in the mid-80s. (I'm 44).DeltaDon said:jcr said:For my money, Truckin Tom Kent is the best.
Agreed. His staccato-syllables-with-the-beat-of-the-song deal is overdone to the point of being annoying where it was once effective, but he sounds alive and connected. His show is always fun to listen to. Hearing Bartley a couple of times recently, I was surprised how stale and dated he sounds. Haven't heard Harvey lately.
I even met him when he came to the town I was in to host a show.
I stopped listening during the late 80s, however, when it became increasingly apparent that all he wanted to do was play the tested, big songs.
Of course his show will play the hits but what made his show special was he would introduce some gems in there. Now, he won't play any of the great songs anymore. Just the songs heard over and over.
When I realized his show was starting to sound exactly like what I heard Monday through Friday on my local oldies show, I tuned out. Why have a Sat. night show that sounds like the daily stuff?
I'll agree that Truckin' Tom is great...but his music extends into the 80's. If he would set an unmovable era limit of pre-disco, I would give him the thumbs up over Bartley. His "Secret Cellar" unearths all sorts of great gems. It's all a moot point for me, as WIAU/Indianapolis dropped him when they went satellite a few months ago & blew out the air staff.
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Don62
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Mike Harvey's show is rapidly declining.
I happened to hear it this weekend.
He opened his first hour with not some hot oldie that everyone remembers but My Sharona from '79
Later he played Jesse's Girl from the early 80s.
What's next? Madonna and Michael Jackson?
Yuck.
The man has truly forgotten what oldies are.
I happened to hear it this weekend.
He opened his first hour with not some hot oldie that everyone remembers but My Sharona from '79
Later he played Jesse's Girl from the early 80s.
What's next? Madonna and Michael Jackson?
Yuck.
The man has truly forgotten what oldies are.
I never hear Bartley anymore anywhere. Haven't heard Harvey anywhere in years. Looks like they're mostly confined to small markets.These shows have probably out-lived their usefullness to Programmers for reasons already listed. But they had a great run...I would like to hear Bartley continue but I doubt if it will happen in it's present incarnation. He's a tremendous talent. And yeah, he really cut his playlist back some years ago much to my chagrin!
A glimmer of hope...almost immediately after being dropped from the Columbus, IN station, WCLS/Spencer near Bloomington has picked up Dick Bartley's Saturday Night show. Some of Bartley's best tunes get played when an affiliate hasn't sold spots for a local break. That's when you'll hear stuff that fell far short of the top 10...I was listening to his stream from 107.9/Columbus,OH & they cover all of the breaks with background music or internet specific spots. A small market over the air station is the best place to listen. As far as market size goes, he's still on 94.9 Kansas City & 102.7 Miami...and he gets a LOT of contest winners from those two stations.
I know one station. But his program is on Sunday Mornings at 8am.
WMXX Jackson, TN
www.kool103.com
I hope that helps.
WMXX Jackson, TN
www.kool103.com
I hope that helps.
Just an fyi...
Just like Bartley's, the website doesn't help much to find affiliates, but Mike Harvey is now doing a Mon-Fri, 7p-Mid show in addition to Super Gold.
Just like Bartley's, the website doesn't help much to find affiliates, but Mike Harvey is now doing a Mon-Fri, 7p-Mid show in addition to Super Gold.
If that Mike Harvey show was available here, I doubt I'd listen to it. Tom Kent's Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is much better(not available either)...even after you factor out the early 80's tunes & his obsession with playing Sniff & The Tears - Driver Seat to death...
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Who? Never heard of him. Is this a syndicated show or a local/regional one?
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Yes. It's a syndicated show. He's got three; Classic Top 40, Hall of Fame Coast to Coast and Into the Seventies.
Tom Kent is a RRHOF inductee, and in the radio hall of fame. Stints include; WIXY/Cleveland, WAVA/DC, WHBQ/Memphis, WQAL/Cleveland and many, many more.
Who? Never heard of him. Is this a syndicated show or a local/regional one?
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Yes. It's a syndicated show. He's got three; Classic Top 40, Hall of Fame Coast to Coast and Into the Seventies.
Tom Kent is a RRHOF inductee, and in the radio hall of fame. Stints include; WIXY/Cleveland, WAVA/DC, WHBQ/Memphis, WQAL/Cleveland and many, many more.
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Don62 said:Mike Harvey's show is rapidly declining.
I happened to hear it this weekend.
He opened his first hour with not some hot oldie that everyone remembers but My Sharona from '79
Later he played Jesse's Girl from the early 80s.
What's next? Madonna and Michael Jackson?
Yuck.
The man has truly forgotten what oldies are.
[/quDon62 said:Mike Harvey's show is rapidly declining.
I happened to hear it this weekend.
He opened his first hour with not some hot oldie that everyone remembers but My Sharona from '79
Later he played Jesse's Girl from the early 80s.
What's next? Madonna and Michael Jackson?
Yuck.
The man has truly forgotten what oldies are.
Harvey is just trying to keep affiliates. As more and more "oldies stations" segue to "classic hits" or "classic top 40" Harvey, and Bartley, are catering to those stations. They're trying to keep gigs like everyone else.
"Oldies" (1955-1979) are about over save for markets 100 plus. Even marktets 75 and up are dropping pre-64 titles. Must stay competitive. Nature of the 25-54 beast.
I hope someday they'll come over to satellite radio. Maybe then they can go back to doing what made their programs what they once were....FUN!
Actually, what some of you who are not in radio may not be aware of:
For quite a few years now (can't remember how many, though), the "forgotten gems" some of you refer to
on the Dick Bartley show are usually programmed during the period of time when there is a local commercial
break. If the station you are listening to breaks from the network to play local spots, you don't hear the "forgotten gem" as it is covered by the local station's commercials.
Stations which do not have fully sold-out shows do not break for commercials at that point, and in those cases and on those stations, the "forgotten gem" plays.
It's a perfectly realistic way of playing the songs at a strategic point in the hour where, when placed between 2 "hits", the "gem" is not as likely to drive a listener away. But, in the more major makets where programmers and managers demand a show "plays the hits", those "drop songs" almost never play.
I know that doesn't satisfy the oldies purists who would pine for a station that played 5,000 different oldies, but that's what I remember Bartley's format clock to be.
For quite a few years now (can't remember how many, though), the "forgotten gems" some of you refer to
on the Dick Bartley show are usually programmed during the period of time when there is a local commercial
break. If the station you are listening to breaks from the network to play local spots, you don't hear the "forgotten gem" as it is covered by the local station's commercials.
Stations which do not have fully sold-out shows do not break for commercials at that point, and in those cases and on those stations, the "forgotten gem" plays.
It's a perfectly realistic way of playing the songs at a strategic point in the hour where, when placed between 2 "hits", the "gem" is not as likely to drive a listener away. But, in the more major makets where programmers and managers demand a show "plays the hits", those "drop songs" almost never play.
I know that doesn't satisfy the oldies purists who would pine for a station that played 5,000 different oldies, but that's what I remember Bartley's format clock to be.
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