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Dicky Barrett resigns from KDLD/KDLE morning show

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From R&R--Dicky Barrett has resigned his morning show host position to concentrate more on his other announcing gig on Jimmy Kimmel.<P ID="signature">______________

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Who the hell cares...how many of us even heard of him?

> From R&R--Dicky Barrett has resigned his morning show host
> position to concentrate more on his other announcing gig on
> Jimmy Kimmel.
>
 
I do for one.

> Who the hell cares...


>how many of us even heard of him?



More than you would think probably.



>
> > From R&R--Dicky Barrett has resigned his morning show host
>
> > position to concentrate more on his other announcing gig
> on
> > Jimmy Kimmel.
> >
>
 
> I do for one.

Same here...it was a great show...interesting interviews, eclectic music. Best of luck to all especially Liz Warner the news girl..very interesting and intelligent.
 
> >how many of us even heard of him?
>
>
>
> More than you would think probably.

Well, 6-10am is Indie's lowest rated daypart in 18-34, so probably not as many as <u>you</u> think.

He's probably better known as Kimmel's announcer than as Indie's morning guy.

On a more serious note, given what Walter Ulloa said last month during the conference call to Entravision's investors, whether or not they replace Barrett will say a lot as to the future there.<P ID="signature">______________


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> On a more serious note, given what Walter Ulloa said last
> month during the conference call to Entravision's investors,
> whether or not they replace Barrett will say a lot as to the
> future there.
>


I was under the impression that Ulloa was generally positive about Entravision's cash flow and was also positive about the future of Indie. Is something else going on?<P ID="signature">______________
Archer
http://spaces.msn.com/robertarcher</P>
 
> I was under the impression that Ulloa was generally positive
> about Entravision's cash flow and was also positive about
> the future of Indie. Is something else going on?

Ulloa was quoted in Inside Radio as saying that if things decline at all “then we take a look at exiting the market” like they did with their San Francisco sale Univision. Ulloa says Indie's main value has been “to convert some general-market business to Spanish radio business on our two other stations in Los Angeles.” <P ID="signature">______________


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> > I was under the impression that Ulloa was generally
> positive
> > about Entravision's cash flow and was also positive about
> > the future of Indie. Is something else going on?
>
> Ulloa was quoted in Inside Radio as saying that if things
> decline at all “then we take a look at exiting the market”
> like they did with their San Francisco sale Univision. Ulloa
> says Indie's main value has been “to convert some
> general-market business to Spanish radio business on our two
> other stations in Los Angeles.”

Most industry folks who heard the conference call think tha thte Indie quesiton took Ulloa by surprise, and he simply said something non-commital. Executives prep for these calls so that the anticipated questions have ready answers; it is likely that they did not prepare anything about Indie as they undoutedly think it is a minor blip on thier internal radar.
>
 
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> Most industry folks who heard the conference call think tha
> thte Indie quesiton took Ulloa by surprise, and he simply
> said something non-commital. Executives prep for these calls
> so that the anticipated questions have ready answers; it is
> likely that they did not prepare anything about Indie as
> they undoutedly think it is a minor blip on thier internal
> radar.

I would interpret that to mean a few things, in no particular order:

1. If the right offer came along, Entravision would sell KDLD/KDLE.
2. If the demographics where the signals were strong showed a shift that would support some type of Spanish language programming, they would flip them.
3. They don't honestly care whether or not Indie is a success.
4. Entravision is not the hero to Alternative music fans that they are sometimes made out to be.

I hope that blip on their radar stays small, but sooner or later, I still expect Indie to meet its demise. It really isn't a fit in Entravision's corporate structure and I can't say I trust them to leave it alone forever.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > >how many of us even heard of him?
> >
> >
> >
> > More than you would think probably.
>
> Well, 6-10am is Indie's lowest rated daypart in 18-34, so
> probably not as many as you think.
>
> He's probably better known as Kimmel's announcer than as
> Indie's morning guy.
>
> On a more serious note, given what Walter Ulloa said last
> month during the conference call to Entravision's investors,
> whether or not they replace Barrett will say a lot as to the
> future there.
>

So I take it you have never heard of the Mighty Mighty Bosstones? Maybe you aren't in the Indie demo. Could be why you haven't heard of him.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Radio6 on 03/26/06 01:40 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > > >how many of us even heard of him?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > More than you would think probably.
> >
> > Well, 6-10am is Indie's lowest rated daypart in 18-34, so
> > probably not as many as you think.
> >
> > He's probably better known as Kimmel's announcer than as
> > Indie's morning guy.
> >
> > On a more serious note, given what Walter Ulloa said last
> > month during the conference call to Entravision's
> investors,
> > whether or not they replace Barrett will say a lot as to
> the
> > future there.
> >
>
> So I take it you have never heard of the Mighty Mighty
> Bosstones? Maybe you aren't in the Indie demo. Could be
> why you haven't heard of him.

Don't make presumptions. The question, as I interpreted it, was how many people knew him as a radio person.

And it would appear from the ratings that Indie's target demo wasn't listening to him in the morning, either.

Whether or not I am in Indie's target demo is immaterial to evaluating facts.

For the record, I like a lot of different genres of music, and I am perfectly aware of Dicky Barrett being the lead singer of the Mighty Mighty Bosstones. That has little to do with what is going on with Indie's morning show.<P ID="signature">______________


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Controversy at Indie

Where's the discussion about the battle going on between Dicky Barrett and Indie? It's not every day that a fired morning DJ puts out a press release blasting his old radio station -- and in this case, Indie execs had to backtrack on their fake original statement. Interesting stuff, Magic91derful, which is why we care. So little juicy stuff goes on in the biz, this is worth a few paragraphs.

Yet this board stays silent. ZZZZ. What's the point of even coming here? When was the last time we read some news here first?

> > I do for one.
>
> Same here...it was a great show...interesting interviews,
> eclectic music. Best of luck to all especially Liz Warner
> the news girl..very interesting and intelligent.
>
 
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> > Most industry folks who heard the conference call think
> tha
> > thte Indie quesiton took Ulloa by surprise, and he simply
> > said something non-commital. Executives prep for these
> calls
> > so that the anticipated questions have ready answers; it
> is
> > likely that they did not prepare anything about Indie as
> > they undoutedly think it is a minor blip on thier internal
>
> > radar.
>
> I would interpret that to mean a few things, in no
> particular order:
>
> 1. If the right offer came along, Entravision would sell
> KDLD/KDLE.
>

Yes, I believe that is VERY true. But the fact of the matter is, no one is going to pay them what they paid in 2002 - $85 million - for two signals that cover about 45-50% of the metro at best.


2. If the demographics where the signals were strong showed
> a shift that would support some type of Spanish language
> programming, they would flip them.

Had they stayed Dance, they would probably be billing more than they are - and Dance was perfect for those frequencies. Even with the music dried up, they probably could've made it work.

But I think your assessment is wrong. Entravision, while being heavily into Spanish language does NOT program them exclusively (note Sacramento and McAllen where they have multiple English stations).

> 3. They don't honestly care whether or not Indie is a
> success.

Yes, they do. Their L.A. cluster is still a major part of their radio cash flow. But the station is cheap to run.


> 4. Entravision is not the hero to Alternative music fans
> that they are sometimes made out to be.
>

I don't think they care about the Alternative music fans. If there was a better business opportunity, they would be foolish not to entertain it.

> I hope that blip on their radar stays small, but sooner or
> later, I still expect Indie to meet its demise. It really
> isn't a fit in Entravision's corporate structure and I can't
> say I trust them to leave it alone forever.
>

The viability of something targeted to the upscale beach communities on the two 103.1's makes sense. As long as it continues to cash flow decently, I don't see why they'd mess with it. The best thing would be for someone who cares about the format to buy it. Tough in this environment.
 
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> Yes, I believe that is VERY true. But the fact of the matter
> is, no one is going to pay them what they paid in 2002 - $85
> million - for two signals that cover about 45-50% of the
> metro at best.

Which is why I believe Entravision looks at the bottom line with Indie. Since the ROI simply isn't there for them, they use the signals for what they can. Pay particular attention to Ulloa's comment that he believes the value is in converting English advertising buys to Spanish. Once that well dries up -- and it will, eventually -- the "strategic usefulness" factor goes down.

> Had they stayed Dance, they would probably be billing more
> than they are - and Dance was perfect for those frequencies.
> Even with the music dried up, they probably could've made it
> work.

KDL probably wouldn't have been much different than Indie in terms of how they see it strategically. Both formats have the same target demo, age-wise, as the Estrella trimulcast, and that is probably what Ulloa is referencing in terms of ad buy conversion.

Remember that the Los Angeles KDL was essentially a clone of the Dallas one, and Entravision was experimenting to see if they could create a new franchise that would reach enough Spanish-speaking young adults to be sold in combo with Estrella. Had it worked (and even the Dallas KDL is history now), you would have found them in just about every market Entravision has stations in, likely displacing English-language formats where possible.

> But I think your assessment is wrong. Entravision, while
> being heavily into Spanish language does NOT program them
> exclusively (note Sacramento and McAllen where they have
> multiple English stations).

Those markets are considered anomalies within the company. Their annual report glosses over the existence of those stations in favor of the national Spanish-language franchises. In those two markets, Entravision is at a competitive disadvantage and their English-language stations are the ones that have the least stability, format-wise. Witness that in Sacramento they blew up a decently rated "cool oldies" format to go in a more 80's direction.

> > 3. They don't honestly care whether or not Indie is a
> > success.
>
> Yes, they do. Their L.A. cluster is still a major part of
> their radio cash flow. But the station is cheap to run.

Which is why I believe it will be interesting to see if they actually replace the morning show or just let the automation run. As I said earlier in the thread, in-target Indie's worst-rated daypart is M-F 6-10am.

> I don't think they care about the Alternative music fans.

I bet you made a lot of people cry with that statement. The truth hurts sometimes.

> The viability of something targeted to the upscale beach
> communities on the two 103.1's makes sense. As long as it
> continues to cash flow decently, I don't see why they'd mess
> with it. The best thing would be for someone who cares about
> the format to buy it. Tough in this environment.

If the 103.1s do get sold, it will likely be to someone who has their own "vision" for what will work in those upscale areas. BTW, did you know the median age on the Westside and the O.C. coast is around 46 now?

If Entravision ever announces they have a buyer, Indie's listeners better start recording it non-stop so as to have something to listen to after the sale. I know I'd archive several hours of it myself ...<P ID="signature">______________


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> Yet this board stays silent. ZZZZ.

Which I find surprising, since this is the first time in a long time that an Indie thread has the potential to be more than just a cheerleading exercise.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > Yet this board stays silent. ZZZZ.
>
> Which I find surprising, since this is the first time in a
> long time that an Indie thread has the potential to be more
> than just a cheerleading exercise.
>
Does anybody have the press release?
 
Re: Controversy at Indie

> Does anybody have the press release?


DICKY BARRETT FIRED

LA’S INDIE 103.1 PULLS HIM

AND HIS MIGHTY MORNING SHOW FROM THE AIRWAVES

Why would Los Angeles radio station Indie 103.1 fire an incredibly successful and much loved host and pull his show from the airwaves without an honest explanation?

That's a good question, one that should be asked until there's a satisfactory answer.

Here’s what happened according to Dicky…

“The station was built to (BLEEP) with KROQ (Infinity) by people from KISS-FM (Clear Channel) it was just supposed to be a short lived pain in the ass that that took away a few ratings points, and talked some (BLEEP) about KROQ - Inadvertently (and you can credit Steve Jones and the other celebrity DJ's) it became good, and got a lot of national attention, and credible press ''the coolest station in America'' rolling stone etc. – At that point the FCC said Clear Channel who operated Indie 103.1 out of the Entravision offices could no longer do so - All business ties on paper we're severed - It became a full Entravision property - But the hard right leaning Clear Channel program director and station manager (along with a lot of the behind the scenes technical employees) were already firmly in place - It is in Clear Channel's best interest that Indie 103.1 exist - the PD, Michael Steele (who brags about ''breaking Britney Spears'') and the station manager, Dawn Girocco (a long time radio sales women) are believing their own hype and considering themselves radio geniuses who masterminded the Indie 103.1 phenomenon, so it's now time to implicate their superior ''radio wisdom'' and conventional ''radio strategy'' - ..1) Morning shows need to be musically formatted and the music needs to be heavily rotated - ..2) All guests must be approved by Michael Steele (Dawn Girocco really, she's Dick Cheney, Steele's George Bush) ''no guests to controversial soccer moms are listening in the a.m.'' - There were other things that were more annoying, then actually detrimental to the show ''say the time, and call letters till your blue in the face'' - I reluctantly, and unhappily against my better judgment went along with all this for about two weeks, hoping they would come to their senses - During this time they brought in a longtime radio guru, to consult (he also worked at one point for Clear Channel) - His assessment was the show was ''really good'' and I was a ''legitimate talent and a potential radio star'' - Not the information these people wanted me to have - When I made an on air remark about not liking the new overplayed Morrissey track I was marched into the President of Entravisions office (Jeff Lieberman, a fan of Mighty Morning show) - In front of me, Jeff told Dawn he was not prepared to ''strip Dicky of his opinion'' she was obviously and visibly embarrassed - Then he asked her if she gave me the book about morning radio that he gave her to give to me ''no, it's at home'' she said, ''why the hell, is it there'' he asked, she looked humiliated - This was the beginning of the end for me, and the writing was most likely on the wall - Two weeks after that I had a substantial, unauthorized, pro-choice conversation on the air with a South Dakota disc jockey and a few callers, the straw that broke the camels back - This is not the direction supporters of the current administration want the station going in.

- I was fired that day

-I loved doing the show and loved the people who loved it

Thank you,

Dicky

Here’s what happened according to Indie 103.1…

From Hits;

L.A. Indie 103.1 station GM Dawn Girocco on the firing of morning man Dicky Barrett: "We have been working with Dicky for the past five months trying to get the show to the next level.. We invested a lot into not only the show, but in promoting and coaching him. Unfortunately it takes a lot of work to build and grow a morning show as well as develop interesting, compelling content. This was not Dicky's priority, as he had other commitments with Jimmy Kimmel Live, which was, in his words, 'his bread and butter.' Everyone at Indie has a tremendous commitment to the station and to the audience. We need to have a morning show that is able to make Indie their ..1 priority"

________________________________________________________

From Dicky;

Jimmy Kimmel is a great guy who supported the Mighty Morning Show, and loved it, even though he helped to build the Kevin and Bean Show on KROQ and is the Producer of the Adam Carolla Morning Radio Show.

The man hired to ''coach'' me "trying to get the show to the next level'' Dan Kieley said "Dicky is a true talent and a radio star'' and ''it's a great Morning Show''

I was fired for being unwilling to be, in Dawn Girocco's words ''more mainstream'' It was a great morning show. It is unfair to let people think I walked away to put more work into loudly reading twenty to thirty words a night on Jimmy's T.V. show. I worked hard on the Mighty Morning Show. I along with Stacey, Chuck, and Liz, built and grew it to what it was. You could count on it (for the most part) to provide you with interesting, compelling content and better music then any other show on the air in the morning.

Further inquires please contact Dana Gordon at Independent Music Media at ..213.864.2690 or [email protected] / Dicky will make himself available to comment.

Contact Indie 103.1 and express your disappointment call or e-mail ..877.900.1031 or Michael Steele (program director) at [email protected].
 
The next level? Indie 103?

> > Does anybody have the press release?
>
>
> DICKY BARRETT FIRED
>
> LA’S INDIE 103.1 PULLS HIM
>
> AND HIS MIGHTY MORNING SHOW FROM THE AIRWAVES
>
> Why would Los Angeles radio station Indie 103.1 fire an
> incredibly successful and much loved host and pull his show
> from the airwaves without an honest explanation?
>
> That's a good question, one that should be asked until
> there's a satisfactory answer.
>
> Here’s what happened according to Dicky…
>
> “The station was built to (BLEEP) with KROQ (Infinity) by
> people from KISS-FM (Clear Channel) it was just supposed to
> be a short lived pain in the ass that that took away a few
> ratings points, and talked some (BLEEP) about KROQ -
> Inadvertently (and you can credit Steve Jones and the other
> celebrity DJ's) it became good, and got a lot of national
> attention, and credible press ''the coolest station in
> America'' rolling stone etc. – At that point the FCC said
> Clear Channel who operated Indie 103.1 out of the
> Entravision offices could no longer do so - All business
> ties on paper we're severed - It became a full Entravision
> property - But the hard right leaning Clear Channel program
> director and station manager (along with a lot of the behind
> the scenes technical employees) were already firmly in place
> - It is in Clear Channel's best interest that Indie 103.1
> exist - the PD, Michael Steele (who brags about ''breaking
> Britney Spears'') and the station manager, Dawn Girocco (a
> long time radio sales women) are believing their own hype
> and considering themselves radio geniuses who masterminded
> the Indie 103.1 phenomenon, so it's now time to implicate
> their superior ''radio wisdom'' and conventional ''radio
> strategy'' - ..1) Morning shows need to be musically
> formatted and the music needs to be heavily rotated - ..2)
> All guests must be approved by Michael Steele (Dawn Girocco
> really, she's Dick Cheney, Steele's George Bush) ''no guests
> to controversial soccer moms are listening in the a.m.'' -
> There were other things that were more annoying, then
> actually detrimental to the show ''say the time, and call
> letters till your blue in the face'' - I reluctantly, and
> unhappily against my better judgment went along with all
> this for about two weeks, hoping they would come to their
> senses - During this time they brought in a longtime radio
> guru, to consult (he also worked at one point for Clear
> Channel) - His assessment was the show was ''really good''
> and I was a ''legitimate talent and a potential radio star''
> - Not the information these people wanted me to have - When
> I made an on air remark about not liking the new overplayed
> Morrissey track I was marched into the President of
> Entravisions office (Jeff Lieberman, a fan of Mighty Morning
> show) - In front of me, Jeff told Dawn he was not prepared
> to ''strip Dicky of his opinion'' she was obviously and
> visibly embarrassed - Then he asked her if she gave me the
> book about morning radio that he gave her to give to me
> ''no, it's at home'' she said, ''why the hell, is it there''
> he asked, she looked humiliated - This was the beginning of
> the end for me, and the writing was most likely on the wall
> - Two weeks after that I had a substantial, unauthorized,
> pro-choice conversation on the air with a South Dakota disc
> jockey and a few callers, the straw that broke the camels
> back - This is not the direction supporters of the current
> administration want the station going in.
>
> - I was fired that day
>
> -I loved doing the show and loved the people who loved it
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dicky
>
> Here’s what happened according to Indie 103.1…
>
> From Hits;
>
> L.A. Indie 103.1 station GM Dawn Girocco on the firing of
> morning man Dicky Barrett: "We have been working with Dicky
> for the past five months trying to get the show to the next
> level.. We invested a lot into not only the show, but in
> promoting and coaching him. Unfortunately it takes a lot of
> work to build and grow a morning show as well as develop
> interesting, compelling content. This was not Dicky's
> priority, as he had other commitments with Jimmy Kimmel
> Live, which was, in his words, 'his bread and butter.'
> Everyone at Indie has a tremendous commitment to the station
> and to the audience. We need to have a morning show that is
> able to make Indie their ..1 priority"
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> From Dicky;
>
> Jimmy Kimmel is a great guy who supported the Mighty Morning
> Show, and loved it, even though he helped to build the Kevin
> and Bean Show on KROQ and is the Producer of the Adam
> Carolla Morning Radio Show.
>
> The man hired to ''coach'' me "trying to get the show to the
> next level'' Dan Kieley said "Dicky is a true talent and a
> radio star'' and ''it's a great Morning Show''
>
> I was fired for being unwilling to be, in Dawn Girocco's
> words ''more mainstream'' It was a great morning show. It is
> unfair to let people think I walked away to put more work
> into loudly reading twenty to thirty words a night on
> Jimmy's T.V. show. I worked hard on the Mighty Morning Show.
> I along with Stacey, Chuck, and Liz, built and grew it to
> what it was. You could count on it (for the most part) to
> provide you with interesting, compelling content and better
> music then any other show on the air in the morning.
>
> Further inquires please contact Dana Gordon at Independent
> Music Media at ..213.864.2690 or [email protected] / Dicky
> will make himself available to comment.
>
> Contact Indie 103.1 and express your disappointment call or
> e-mail ..877.900.1031 or Michael Steele (program director)
> at [email protected].
>
The next level? what I wonder would a corproate type think that the next level for a show or a station named Indie would be? were they thinking that they could get Dickie into the ring with Big Boy and Ryan Seacrest? that's where Kevin and Bean compete, on that level. And should that even be the desire for a station like that? if they get to that next level do they not cease to be "Indie 103"?. Dickie is right about Indie even existing just to be a flanker to krow and steal a share or two of theirs it's textbook Clear Channel programming, theyre not supposed to BEAT Kroq just shave a little off of their cume and huge numbers with little operating overhead so either way Clear Channel wins. To think that they can get to "the next level" with that format and that signal is pretty dumb, and to even mention "soccer moms" as being part of the target for that station is proof that too many have drunk the kool aid in that building.'

Good luck Dickie, you'll be fine kid.
 
Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> The next level? what I wonder would a corproate type think
> that the next level for a show or a station named Indie
> would be? were they thinking that they could get Dickie into
> the ring with Big Boy and Ryan Seacrest? that's where Kevin
> and Bean compete, on that level. And should that even be the
> desire for a station like that? if they get to that next
> level do they not cease to be "Indie 103"?. Dickie is right
> about Indie even existing just to be a flanker to krow and
> steal a share or two of theirs it's textbook Clear Channel
> programming, theyre not supposed to BEAT Kroq just shave a
> little off of their cume and huge numbers with little
> operating overhead so either way Clear Channel wins. To
> think that they can get to "the next level" with that format
> and that signal is pretty dumb, and to even mention "soccer
> moms" as being part of the target for that station is proof
> that too many have drunk the kool aid in that building

And you people wonder if Entravision really has a commitment to Indie.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> And you people wonder if Entravision really has a commitment
> to Indie.
>

After reading what Dickie said, I would say there committment is to Clear Channel.

Just curious, what is the billing of each FM signal in the CC cluster? Is each station doing well in their target demo's? Would they ever consider moving the format to a bigger stick (and letting Entravision have the 103.1's back)? Would it work on a bigger stick?

My reason for asking is, (you would think) it would make more sense to attack KROQ head on. I know stations have come and gone in the fight with KROQ, but nothing last's for ever. What would it take to bring them down?

While not setting the world on fire, Indie did make KROQ think. Without Indie, would hear some of the music you hear on KROQ now?

...just curious.
 
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