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Dicky Barrett resigns from KDLD/KDLE morning show

Re: Nothing to do with CC.

> > And you people wonder if Entravision really has a
> commitment
> > to Indie.
> >
>
> After reading what Dickie said, I would say there
> committment is to Clear Channel.

Clear Channel has had no relationship with Indie for over a year. It is legally prohibited.
>
> Just curious, what is the billing of each FM signal in the
> CC cluster?

All are over $30 million, with Hot growing and KYSR declining but still well in the 30's. Everything else is market-leading.

> Is each station doing well in their target
> demo's? Would they ever consider moving the format to a
> bigger stick (and letting Entravision have the 103.1's
> back)? Would it work on a bigger stick?

They can not move the format as they do not wone or control or have anything to do with Indie.
 
The replacements are worse than a trainwreck

> > I do for one.
>
> Same here...it was a great show...interesting interviews,
> eclectic music. Best of luck to all especially Liz Warner
> the news girl..very interesting and intelligent.
>
I'll miss it and was quite taken aback with the drunk Palmdale knuckleheads they had in the studio this morning. It sounded like complete chaos and lacked any semblance of professionalism. And poor Liz was stuck right in the middle of it. If this is any sign of things to come... Indie is in full on cardiac arrest.
 
Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> > And you people wonder if Entravision really has a
> commitment
> > to Indie.
> >
>
> After reading what Dickie said, I would say there
> committment is to Clear Channel.

Except that the JSA with Clear Channel is long over. That was discussed to death here.

Entravision is 100% responsible for what happens at 103.1; and in terms of programming, they always have been. The JSA (Joint Sales Agreement) meant that Clear Channel was responsible for the ad sales, <u>not</u> the programming.

> Would they ever consider moving the format to a
> bigger stick (and letting Entravision have the 103.1's
> back)? Would it work on a bigger stick?

The question is moot, since it is Entravision's format and the only "bigger sticks" they have in the market are running Spanish-language programming (which is, as discussed before in this thread, their primary programming language).

I think Indie on a better signal would do somewhat better, but I can't see any of the bigger stick owners switching their existing formats to take it.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: The replacements are worse than a trainwreck

> If this is any sign of things to come... Indie is in
> full on cardiac arrest.

I agree with you, and it worries me.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: Much ado about nothing.

> And you people wonder if Entravision really has a commitment
> to Indie.

The Indie morning show cumed about half what the afternoon show did in February, and cumed about 1/12th of what KROQ did in mornings. In other words, it was underperforming the station as a whole.
 
Re: Much ado about nothing.

> > And you people wonder if Entravision really has a
> commitment
> > to Indie.
>
> The Indie morning show cumed about half what the afternoon
> show did in February, and cumed about 1/12th of what KROQ
> did in mornings. In other words, it was underperforming the
> station as a whole.

As I had alluded to earlier in this thread, although not with the level of specificity.

Morning shows are supposed to carry a station, not the other way around. I have a feeling the automation would do better in the 6-10am ratings.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: Controversy at Indie

So there it is, right wing politics were the end of this show, not very "indie"...I applaud Dicky for having the balls to have an opinion on the air....as well as playing great music. As a regular listener it was apparent to me his freedom to choose the music had become less and less.
 
Re: The replacements are worse than a trainwreck

> > > I do for one.
> >
> > Same here...it was a great show...interesting interviews,
> > eclectic music. Best of luck to all especially Liz Warner
> > the news girl..very interesting and intelligent.
> >
> I'll miss it and was quite taken aback with the drunk
> Palmdale knuckleheads they had in the studio this morning.
> It sounded like complete chaos and lacked any semblance of
> professionalism. And poor Liz was stuck right in the middle
> of it. If this is any sign of things to come... Indie is in
> full on cardiac arrest.
>
Fully agreed...the beginning of the end...
 
Re: Controversy at Indie

> So there it is, right wing politics were the end of this
> show, not very "indie"...I applaud Dicky for having the
> balls to have an opinion on the air....as well as playing
> great music. As a regular listener it was apparent to me his
> freedom to choose the music had become less and less.

It did not show in the numbers, which steadily declined.
>
 
Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> > > And you people wonder if Entravision really has a
> > commitment
> > > to Indie.
> > >
> >
> > After reading what Dickie said, I would say there
> > committment is to Clear Channel.
>
> Except that the JSA with Clear Channel is long over. That
> was discussed to death here.
>
> Entravision is 100% responsible for what happens at 103.1;
> and in terms of programming, they always have been. The JSA
> (Joint Sales Agreement) meant that Clear Channel was
> responsible for the ad sales, not the programming.
>
> > Would they ever consider moving the format to a
> > bigger stick (and letting Entravision have the 103.1's
> > back)? Would it work on a bigger stick?
>
> The question is moot, since it is Entravision's format and
> the only "bigger sticks" they have in the market are running
> Spanish-language programming (which is, as discussed before
> in this thread, their primary programming language).
>
> I think Indie on a better signal would do somewhat better,
> but I can't see any of the bigger stick owners switching
> their existing formats to take it.
>

No im afrid you're wrong the question is not moot. Yes the JSA is months past, but the management structure are former clear channel employees who dont have any experience apparantly or idea of what makes the alternative culture tick. IF Dickie is to be believed and their PD brags in THAT building about breaking Brittany Spears while he was at KIIS, then it's pretty apparant. While they're not currently employed by CC they're still thinking like a CC property, trying to appeal to the "soccer moms", trying to be more mainstream (which I would generally agree with if Kroq werent already there), trying to get the show to "the next level" and it appears that by the next level they are unaware of what the next level for a station that is trying to be the alternative to the alternative could actually be. They want to compete with the big boys in LA by with a station that hahs built its rep on being the most obscure station in America, yeah I bet Seacrest and Kevin and Bean are shaking in their boots.

So yes no more JSA with CC but the CC spectre looms in the building considering they're being programmed by a chr guy from CC.

See what I'm sayin G?
 
Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> So yes no more JSA with CC but the CC spectre looms in the
> building considering they're being programmed by a chr guy
> from CC.
>
> See what I'm sayin G?

Yes, I see that you believe that people have loyalty to former employers over their current ones. What a flawed leap in logic.

And there is no "G" in my name.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> > So yes no more JSA with CC but the CC spectre looms in
> the
> > building considering they're being programmed by a chr guy
>
> > from CC.
> >
> > See what I'm sayin G?
>
> Yes, I see that you believe that people have loyalty to
> former employers over their current ones. What a flawed
> leap in logic.
>
> And there is no "G" in my name.
>
Hardly and you did not get the gist of what I was saying so ill say it more clearly, if I could I would speak more sloooowly. It has nothing to do with loyalty to their former employer (clear channel) BUT more to do with their way of thinking fostered in Steele's case by his experience at KIIS, CHR, Clear Channel. Meaning that a guy whose claim to fame being that he broke Brittany Spears at KIIS, might explain his misdirected belief that a station that is agaiin an alternnative, to the alternative (in this case kroq) could get to the next level when it's noting more than a flanker to begin with, In other words he's a CHR guy who apparantly doesn't get the alternative format as it is practiced by Indie, and thinking that they can get the station/morning drive into competition with the major shows in town, impossible just by the nature of what they are doing formatically.

Hardly flawed logic, it actually makes a lot of sense if you thought about it rather than making snide comments about my logic which you didnt fully understand yet felt compelled to dismiss as "flawed".
 
Re: The next level? Indie 103?

> Hardly flawed logic, it actually makes a lot of sense if
> you thought about it rather than making snide comments about
> my logic which you didnt fully understand yet felt compelled
> to dismiss as "flawed".

Has to do with context. You jumped from "maybe the JSA with CC is over, but the CC influence is still there" into what's wrong with Steele.

Okay, so a programmer with most of his history in CHR was the wrong choice for PD at Indie. That has nothing to do with Clear Channel, and in that context, your logic has the appearance of being disjointed, therefore faulty.

Entravision's choice of Steele just proves that they do not know what they are doing with the station and I never expect them to do the right thing with Indie.

Which means I am hardly surprised at what is happening there.

Personally, I would have not put Dicky Barrett in morning drive. And, in another daypart, there would not have been the idiotic pressure to make his show "competitive". Steele is doing what Entravision tells him to do, and their cluelessness is now taking its toll.

I suppose next they will try to pre-program Jonesy's music.<P ID="signature">______________


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