Did one morning show rip another?? Heard through the grape vine...

[JKersting1]

So, I heard that Mark (or is it Marc) of Star 102.1 was ripping WIVK on the air. Is this true? If so, can anyone offer up the context?

Don't know the guy, but I find it odd that someone would acknowledge the competition on the air. I think my morning N/T competitor here is one of the greatest guys I have ever met, but I won't talk about him...good or bad.

Just curious.

 

[BRice16]

They do it on a fairly regular basis. They make fun of how lame A&A is, stuff like that. They've gone a bit more personal this time.

Their latest rant is to rip on Mike Hammond because he (in his position as County Commissioner) supported an anti-nepotism motion before the council. They said that the night guy on IVK is actually related to him or his son or something and called Mike a giant hypocrite. They talked about at least three different days last week, twice during the 9 AM hour. One of the days had to be Thursday because I had flipped over from the Sports Animal's "Fantasy Hour."

They also claimed that there are so many family connections at Citadel that it's impossible for anyone outside a family to get a job.

 

[tinytunes]

Sounds like they've got a case for ripping on Hammond. Jack Ryan IS his kid. Is that why he got the job? Hard to say. But perceptions....ah, there's the rub. I'd keep as far away from any anti-nepotism stance as I could, if I were Mike. After all, in radio, it's not what you know.....it's who you know. Even if it's NOT your dad doing the hiring.

As far as talking about the competition? If you're WIVK you don't....if you're Star, maybe you're thinking what the hell. I wouldn't rip on the competiton, OR Mike Hammond. I wouldn't even mention them at all, unless they were dead or dying....and then only if they were truly legendary. But I've seen the trash the other guys tack get people jobs in top ten markets, too. And here I am stuck under 100.

Nah...I still wouldn't do it.

Just my .02.

 

[ratman2005]

They also claimed that there are so many family connections at Citadel that it's impossible for anyone outside a family to get a job.

Well that statement is a crock. But with an attitude like Marc's, you sure as hell won't get a job there.

 

[ratman2005]

...By the way, Marc's comments prove that many people in radio are jealous, ego-driven, out-of-touch-with-reality wannabe stars. Isn't that just pathetic when you come to think about it? Such egotistical, jealous rants from mindless jocks make us ALL look bad. And that cloud of shame overshadows the rest of us in the industry who would be just as happy working at a 5000 watt AM station in a small town.

 

[BRice16]

And just to be clear, I have absolutely no dog in this fight, just responding to the question based on what I heard. I listen to 102.1 over WIVK because I don't like country, but I'm just reporting what I heard on-air.

 

[Bring_Back_Real_Radio]

...By the way, Marc's comments prove that many people in radio are jealous, ego-driven, out-of-touch-with-reality wannabe stars. Isn't that just pathetic when you come to think about it? Such egotistical, jealous rants from mindless jocks make us ALL look bad. And that cloud of shame overshadows the rest of us in the industry who would be just as happy working at a 5000 watt AM station in a small town.

The type of person that works in radio who has the "Look at me, I'm a radio DJ" big shot attitude like Marc is just a reminder why I don't work in the business anymore. This guy is an insult to what radio talent use to be many years ago.

Just like the "Crap Music" of today, "Star 102.1" Sucks. How I long for the old days back when Jacor owned the station when it was U-102.

On a more personal note, Kim Hansard is a class act. She is too good for that crap station.

 

[Bring_Back_Real_Radio]

And just to be clear, I have absolutely no dog in this fight, just responding to the question based on what I heard. I listen to 102.1 over WIVK because I don't like country, but I'm just reporting what I heard on-air.

There are other stations in Knoxville you can listen to besides "Star 102.1" and "WIVK".....................Unless you actually like the new crap music of today.

 

[JKersting1]

As for the Mike Hammond/Jack Ryan thing....I am not sure that Mike was the one who brought Jack into the building.

As for using him, I will stand up for Jack on this, he is talented, he is hard working and in my opinion from when I worked there, he deserves his position on merit. AGAIN, that is my opinion.

OH, and I did get a job there and I had no relatives there.

Now, back to the topic of discussing the competition. That, to me, is rule number one. Do not talk about them...it could ONLY make your audience curious about them. Nothing is to be gained by doing so.

 

[BRice16]

And it should be noted that Jack Ryan was a successful morning host in Knoxville at Love89 before going to WIVK.

Yes, I like some of the music on Star, but there are six preset buttons in my car and I frequently push them, landing most often on the Sports Animal.

 

[cheapman]

Mike hired me and I didn't know a soul in the building let alone have relatives there. But he's probably not wasting his time reading what people at other stations think of him. How many of those guys have had a 20+ share? It's easy to be jeleaous. More people should admire that kind of success.

 

[RussAllen]

Wow, look what I've been missing :

Well, I didn't hear the audio and I don't have a dog in this fight (shameless Michael Vick pun) but based on what I've read in the thread, it seems that the STAR 102.1 morning show was talking about Mike Hammond in the context of a bonafide news story. He is an elected official after all.

As for them mentioning A&A I think that may have happend once before ;D. Generally speaking you don't mention a station or talent on a station that has a smaller audience than you. A&A have been around for a long time, the station is always in the 20 shares so mentioning them once/twice a year isn't going to suddenly cause people to think "who are A&A, never heard of them I must check them out for comparison".

There were times the airstaff at WILD 98.7 made on-air references to HOT but we held off from mentioning them until 5pm on April 29, 2005. Then we just welcomed their few remaining listeners. By then I think there were seven of them.

And as far as the "how many of those guys have had a 20+ share" comment. Please, while that looks good on paper, he's got a 20+ share on a COUNTRY station in Knoxville on a class C stick with over 30 years of heritage. A trained chimp could accomplish that. When he goes to (insert virtually any market other than Nashville or the Tri-Cities) does country and gets a 20 share then THAT'S an accomplishment. Heck, go to Houston or Dallas where there are multiple country stations and just win and I'll tip my hat.

Plus he was going to be the award winning genius programmer to guide EARL to victory over the "non-local" JACK station. That worked out...not so much.

 

[godblessamerica]

it doesnt matter what context its in, if air talent cant think of anything better to open their mouth about than bashing another station, a station, by the way, their listeners arent even listening to at that moment because they are listening to them do the bashing, then that "talent" is more like a "loser". JKersting is right, it does make listeners curious.

 

[ratman2005]

it doesnt matter what context its in, if air talent cant think of anything better to open their mouth about than bashing another station, a station, by the way, their listeners arent even listening to at that moment because they are listening to them do the bashing, then that "talent" is more like a "loser". JKersting is right, it does make listeners curious.

Guess that goes for old program directors too, huh RussAllen? So what, HOT was birthed after WILD but sent WILD to the grave. Whoopdi do, happened over two years ago. Get a life and get over it already. I am tired of seeing egos on here.

Plus at last check I remembered seeing that WIVK 12+ single-handly continued to beat all four Journal stations 12+ combined.

 

[GTC]

I am tired of seeing egos on here.

Plus at last check I remembered seeing that WIVK 12+ single-handly continued to beat all four Journal stations 12+ combined.

Yeah, me too.... :

 

[spindoctor1]

For those of you who are "tired of seeing egos on here"...
It would be easier for Isreal and Pakistan to get along than
to remove egos from radio.
Apparently you haven't been in the business very long.
Radio IS ego driven.
With that said, the person who did the slamming does that to everyone
including callers. Two ways to look at it...
1. Don't listen.
2. He is not as good as what he believes.

Either way, the ratings and revenue is still there.
Personally, berating guests and callers has never been my cup of tea,
nor is it a sign of class.

 

[YEKIMI]

I was told long ago that if you're in radio 5% of the people like you, 5% hate you and the other 90% have no idea who you are. I liked doing radio and in all the towns I have worked in I have only had one girl that heard me at a store in a mall talking and said I sounded familiar, told her I was a DJ at a station, she freaked out, got all giggly and said she listened to me. I was appreciative of it but also a little bit embaressed because of the commotion she was causing. So you can have a big ego but most people don't give a rats backside who you are or what you are.

 

[Bring_Back_Real_Radio]

Egotistical, arrogant people who work in radio is one of the reasons why I'm glad I don't work in the business anymore.

They act that way, because that is their way of dealing with their little insecurity problem. They think because they work in radio or they are a DJ that it makes them a superstar. Nobody in the Non-Radio world really gives a crap about who these DJ's are and how popular they are. Sorry to burst the bubble of the one's who feel that they are a big shot because they work in radio, but nobody gives a rat's a$$ about who you are and what station you work on. So get over yourself. :

Most of these radio guys who act all egotistical need to get a "Real" career, and they need to quit living in their little fantasy world where they think that they are some huge superstar. Most of the one's who act like that have a brain the size of a pea.

Oh yeah, it takes a really big and tough guy to get behind a microphone, and talk trash on the air. Like I said, it's that person's way of dealing with their little insecurity problem, and taking out their own personal frustrations on other's when it is their own little pathetic life that they are frustrated with.

I don't know how many times I have heard other current and former radio veterans who have been around for the past 20 plus years who have complained about these newer modern day DJ's that are on the air today. Most of these newer guys who work in radio don't even come close to a real air talent such as the late Wolfman Jack. They don't have a clue about what real radio talent is.

They think just clicking a mouse and playing a song on the station's computer and talking a little trash makes them a "Major On Air Talent" in a market. :

 

[spindoctor1]

AMEN! Well put!
Put a vet against one of these jocks with only a decade or so under their belt and
you'll see class against class-less.

 

[Bring_Back_Real_Radio]

AMEN! Well put!
Put a vet against one of these jocks with only a decade or so under their belt and
you'll see class against class-less.

Thanks mate!

I use to have that same arrogant, egotistical attitude back when I worked in radio.

I use to go around bragging about how I worked in radio and how I knew so and so, and how I was such good friends with so and so.

Well my bubble got bursted by someone outside of the radio world several years back.

I told this one guy that I was a DJ, and he was like, "So? Big deal."

Turns out this guy made 4 times more money in his profession than I did working in radio. This guy really shot me down, and made me realize that I wasn't the big Sh!t that I thought I was.

I grew up after that happened, and realized just what an artificial world that some people (who act like big shots) who work in radio live in.