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DIRECTV wants it's MTV

ajc_trw said:
radiojomo said:
DIRECTV is surprisingly been very open with their customers about this specific carriage dispute, giving many details that most cable/satellite providers do not provide with their carriage disputes.

I think it's a bold move for DIRECTV to encourage viewers to their "competitors" and watch Viacom shows on the internet, Netflix, Hulu and Apple TV.

Check out their website:
www.directvpromise.com

But the only way to get these "competitors" is with high-speed broadband from the competitor they don't want you to turn to, cable TV (including Verizon & AT&T). Or am I missing an option? ;D

It's not only the digital competitors..it's competing channels as well.

A great post I read on Engadget was that while Viacom may have some success in convincing DTV viewers to switch providers, they'll still have to convince their advertisers whom are now looking at a loss in their reach due to reduced viewership.

Doesn't help that the MTV brand is probably the weakest in their lineup...yet it's one of the most recognizable if not THE most recognizable.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
radiojomo said:
The big problem for Viacom is going to be that they truly have no "must see" programming going on for the next few months. Primarily in the sports category. Usually, big sporting events are used as leverage to get carriage deals done. But Viacom doesn't have a network that carries premium programming like sports.
This would be different for a content provider like NBC Universal, because they're carrying the Olympics this summer. Disney/ESPN because they're carrying the second half of baseball season. Fox because they also hold a lot of local baseball team rights.
As far as Viacom goes, they have made their content widely available on the third screen that it is possible that DIRECTV can go months without being severely affected if they direct their customers to where they can find this programming, along with providing alternative options.

there are the VMAs on eMpTV

Nobody is checking for the VMAs, trust me.

Most of the Viacom networks' award shows are dryer than the purse of a dumb whore...

Viacom is going to eating dirt soon and it will be funny watching how this play out.
 
kilamanjero said:
Nobody is checking for the VMAs, trust me.

Most of the Viacom networks' award shows are dryer than the purse of a dumb whore...

Viacom is going to eating dirt soon and it will be funny watching how this play out.
Very true. Just look at the declining ratings of the shows on Viacom networks, and it's not only Nick. MTV has also been experiencing less than anticipated ratings for their new summer shows.
 
radiojomo said:
kilamanjero said:
Nobody is checking for the VMAs, trust me.

Most of the Viacom networks' award shows are dryer than the purse of a dumb whore...

Viacom is going to eating dirt soon and it will be funny watching how this play out.
Very true. Just look at the declining ratings of the shows on Viacom networks, and it's not only Nick. MTV has also been experiencing less than anticipated ratings for their new summer shows.

It's kind of laughable after briefly watching MTV about 2 weeks ago and seeing them having the stars of some of their shows like "Teen Wolf" promoting them and saying "new episodes are XXXX". I could tell that they were hard pressed for viewers.
 
Something kind of comical is I heard a Viacom call-to-action spot asking viewers to call DirecTV to put pressure on them.

The spot used sound bites from different shows on the network. I think, at least in my opinion, I caught a hidden message in the ad.

The two versions I heard end with the "Dora The Explorer" sound bite "... we need your help." Well, they wouldn't need "your" help if they weren't trying to be greedy corporate thugs!

Two people I know who have DirecTV said they don't miss any of those networks and would actually call DirecTV to say they can keep them off if it means a lower bill. Somebody already mentioned there's not a lot on any of the affected networks worth watching. Kids can watch Disney instead of Nick, TVLand has gotten so bad most people I know don't watch it anymore, and when was the last time MTV actually aired music videos? Last century?

OK Viacom, either play ball or throw in the towel!
 
Bill DeFelice said:
Something kind of comical is I heard a Viacom call-to-action spot asking viewers to call DirecTV to put pressure on them.

The spot used sound bites from different shows on the network. I think, at least in my opinion, I caught a hidden message in the ad.

The two versions I heard end with the "Dora The Explorer" sound bite "... we need your help." Well, they wouldn't need "your" help if they weren't trying to be greedy corporate thugs!

Two people I know who have DirecTV said they don't miss any of those networks and would actually call DirecTV to say they can keep them off if it means a lower bill. Somebody already mentioned there's not a lot on any of the affected networks worth watching. Kids can watch Disney instead of Nick, TVLand has gotten so bad most people I know don't watch it anymore, and when was the last time MTV actually aired music videos? Last century?

OK Viacom, either play ball or throw in the towel!

Yeah, you just expressed exactly what I was thinking. I have DirecTV and so don't care that the Viacom-owned networks are off-air.
 
I fully realize these are two greedy corporations fighting over who gets to keep the money. I don't think bills would lower without the Viacom contract renewal.

With that said, every time these cable networks ask for MORE money, it absolutely DOES result in higher bills from the providers of these channels, and for that, I fully support Direct TV, even though I am a Comcast subscriber. At some point, enough has to be enough, as consumers watch TV bills rise year after year, often outpacing inflation. And what bugs me the most about this, is that not only do they want me to pay for networks I don't care to watch, but they ALSO get to ask for money from advertising.

Furthermore, Viacom needs to tread very lightly here. Not only do they look bad because they are asking more money for a luxury service while our economy struggles to rebound from the worst recession in recent memory, but they also look very bad for blocking all online access to shows on their websites. DTV is a small fish in a big pond of pay TV providers, and to punish EVERYONE because of a contract dispute that covers 10-15% of the country just shows how greedy the company has become. I watch a few Viacom shows on cable (mostly Comedy Central) and I'm starting to think I may no longer wish to do that, seeing as how little Viacom cares about me, the ultimate customer for programming. Yes, they still get my money while they bundle channels together, but they no longer get my eyeballs, which leads to lower ad revenues.
 
mnradiofan said:
I watch a few Viacom shows on cable (mostly Comedy Central) and I'm starting to think I may no longer wish to do that, seeing as how little Viacom cares about me, the ultimate customer for programming. Yes, they still get my money while they bundle channels together, but they no longer get my eyeballs, which leads to lower ad revenues.

Unless you have a TV ratings diary or a TV ratings box from the Nielsen Company, advertisers will not be able to figure your lack of viewing into a decision of whether or not they should buy more advertising time from a national TV programming service such as one from Viacom.
 
Only time I really watched Viacom's stuff was on MTV Beavis and Butthead. I can also just watch it online. If Viacom is going to be that greedy then keep it off, keep my bill lower.
 
radiojomo said:
DToTheJ said:
Update: DirecTV wants its Epix
You mean DirecTV DOESN'T want it's Epix? ;D
Verizon FiOS has Epix as an added pay movie channel. For $10 per month you get Epix-SD, Epix-HD and Epix2-HD.

Is DirecTV saying Viacom is insisting Epix be included free with a certain level package (basic or extended basic)?

If that's the case IDK. I do know we (FiOS) just got IFC as an extended basic cable station.

I await further information. :)
 
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