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Do you miss The WB and UPN?

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okay....someone on this board did just remind me of The Jamie Kennedy Experiment.
I did kind of enjoy that one. Especially the one where they brought that guy onto
the totally nonsensical game show where he was the only one who did not get the rules!
 
Back in the late 90s, I watched the Kids WB block quite a bit. Other than that, my WB affiliate, "Indiana's WB 4" behaved as an Independent a lot of nights with the Indiana Pacers, Purdue Boilermakers, and Indiana Hoosiers rights. Never watched the primetime programs much. Didn't get a UPN affiliate clearly nor was one offered on cable locally.

I don't miss the network, and I don't live in Indianapolis any longer, but I wish WTTV still had the rights to my Boilers!
 
I miss both the WB and UPN, though even then I was way out of their demo. They provided programing that the "big 4" wouldn't touch and that was a good thing. I particularly get tired of people referring to UPN as the "ghetto" network. What is that supposed to mean? Sounds a little racist to me. Regarding ruining independent stations--that makes no sense at all, since WB and UPN occupied only 2 hours of programing a night. What "ruined" independent stations was: most syndicated programing sold to cable networks rather than local stations: local sports programing sold to cable networks: acquisition of many formerly indies by people such as Ruppert Murdock (WWOR, WDCA, WPWR, KCOP, etc), who had no intention of building/maintaining strong stations. Still, some of the present CW and MY affilates do a good job. For example my two locals, WJZY (formerly a very strong UPN affil, now CW) and WMYT (formerly CW, now MY) do a pretty good job, I'd say.
 
fortmill said:
I miss both the WB and UPN, though even then I was way out of their demo. They provided programing that the "big 4" wouldn't touch and that was a good thing. I particularly get tired of people referring to UPN as the "ghetto" network. What is that supposed to mean? Sounds a little racist to me. Regarding ruining independent stations--that makes no sense at all, since WB and UPN occupied only 2 hours of programing a night. What "ruined" independent stations was: most syndicated programing sold to cable networks rather than local stations: local sports programing sold to cable networks: acquisition of many formerly indies by people such as Ruppert Murdock (WWOR, WDCA, WPWR, KCOP, etc), who had no intention of building/maintaining strong stations. Still, some of the present CW and MY affilates do a good job. For example my two locals, WJZY (formerly a very strong UPN affil, now CW) and WMYT (formerly CW, now MY) do a pretty good job, I'd say.
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Yeah fortmill, I'm a racist because you don't agree with my comment about UPN. Labeling people with that very objectionable smear is not only growing tiresome but it shows outright ignorance of the true meaning of racism. :mad:

By the way, it was a crap network, which is why it no longer exists.
 
emailfailed said:
As for UPN they did save Buffy the Vampire Slayer after it was canceled from The WB.
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That show was able to get away with a lot on UPN in the last two seasons. However, its spin-off show Angel wasn't allow to reference Buffy as much until Buffy ended. By the way, I didn't start watching these shows until they were in syndication later on.

The only show I watched on UPN was WWF Smackdown, which at that time wrestling was really popular. I stop watching that show around '02-'03. As for the thread question, I don't miss WB or UPN at all.
 
BRNout said:
fortmill said:
I miss both the WB and UPN, though even then I was way out of their demo. They provided programing that the "big 4" wouldn't touch and that was a good thing. I particularly get tired of people referring to UPN as the "ghetto" network. What is that supposed to mean? Sounds a little racist to me. Regarding ruining independent stations--that makes no sense at all, since WB and UPN occupied only 2 hours of programing a night. What "ruined" independent stations was: most syndicated programing sold to cable networks rather than local stations: local sports programing sold to cable networks: acquisition of many formerly indies by people such as Ruppert Murdock (WWOR, WDCA, WPWR, KCOP, etc), who had no intention of building/maintaining strong stations. Still, some of the present CW and MY affilates do a good job. For example my two locals, WJZY (formerly a very strong UPN affil, now CW) and WMYT (formerly CW, now MY) do a pretty good job, I'd say.
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Yeah fortmill, I'm a racist because you don't agree with my comment about UPN. Labeling people with that very objectionable smear is not only growing tiresome but it shows outright ignorance of the true meaning of racism. :mad:

By the way, it was a crap network, which is why it no longer exists.
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Since you're so offended, why don't you answer the question. Why do so many refer to UPN as the ghetto network? I'm just asking....
 
Eh. The CW feels like another WB to me, just more female-oriented. I never cared for UPN. So no, I don't really miss neither.
 
The only show I ever really liked on UPN was Everybody Hates Chris. As for The WB, I was a fan of Kids' WB when I was younger.
 
CrankyYankee said:
What's Michigan J. Frog doing these days since the demise of the
Dubayuh-Bee?
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He, in neon form, is still on the side of the studio building of this market's WB affiliate, WBNX/55...now the Cleveland market's CW affiliate.

No, really!

http://ohiomediawatch.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/of-jimbo-frogs-and-love/

Darn. I thought I had a picture of it in that 2009 item, but I don't. It's still there today, and the item explains why. WBNX still misses the WB, though they are just as strong mini-network wise with the CW these days.
 
fortmill said:
BRNout said:
fortmill said:
I miss both the WB and UPN, though even then I was way out of their demo. They provided programing that the "big 4" wouldn't touch and that was a good thing. I particularly get tired of people referring to UPN as the "ghetto" network. What is that supposed to mean? Sounds a little racist to me. Regarding ruining independent stations--that makes no sense at all, since WB and UPN occupied only 2 hours of programing a night. What "ruined" independent stations was: most syndicated programing sold to cable networks rather than local stations: local sports programing sold to cable networks: acquisition of many formerly indies by people such as Ruppert Murdock (WWOR, WDCA, WPWR, KCOP, etc), who had no intention of building/maintaining strong stations. Still, some of the present CW and MY affilates do a good job. For example my two locals, WJZY (formerly a very strong UPN affil, now CW) and WMYT (formerly CW, now MY) do a pretty good job, I'd say.
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Yeah fortmill, I'm a racist because you don't agree with my comment about UPN. Labeling people with that very objectionable smear is not only growing tiresome but it shows outright ignorance of the true meaning of racism. :mad:

By the way, it was a crap network, which is why it no longer exists.
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Since you're so offended, why don't you answer the question. Why do so many refer to UPN as the ghetto network? I'm just asking....
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You know he can't answer it, but I'm glad somebody asked this very question.

Like most networks, there was shows that were straight garbage, and most of them were canceled with the quickness. However UPN, like the WB, had some quality sitcoms with non-whites as the lead characters like Moesha, Everybody Hates Chris, Girlfriends, Half & Half, Sparks, All of Us, One on One, Sister Sister (yeah, it started on UPN and moved to the WB). This precedent is very atypical to the usual sitcom. The kicker is UPN had more of these type of successful shows than the WB for the entire existence of that network. Hence, why some people calls it "ghetto", which you already know what that means.
 
kilamanjero said:
You know he can't answer it, but I'm glad somebody asked this very question.
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Really? Of course I can - once I actually see the question. Speak for yourself, hard as that may be to do - and see below.



fortmill said:
Since you're so offended, why don't you answer the question. Why do so many refer to UPN as the ghetto network? I'm just asking....
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Damn right I'm offended because too many use the label "racist" in inappropriate ways to slander those whom they don't agree with. Perhaps I should resort to calling you nasty names too?

Here's why: because they programmed to the lowest common social denominator. Unintelligent shows for generally unintelligent people. Pretty groundbreaking at the time, though it's pretty standard for programmers to do now. If you want to assign a racial component to that comment, perhaps you're the one with an issue. Because, from my standpoint, the lowest common denominator includes people of all races and ethnicities and so did UPN's crap programming.
 
UPN: I liked Moesha, Paranormal Boarderline, Liveshot, and Everybody Hates Chris. Plus they ran Disney's One Too Block during the morning (a spin-off from Disney's One Saturday Morning on ABC). I liked the cartoon Recess.

WB: I liked Kirk, Wayans Brothers, Sabrina The Witch, Sister Sister, Nick Freno Licensed Teacher, and 7th Heaven. Plus I liked Michigan J. Frog. And the great cartoons: That's Warner Brothers, Detention!, Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries, and Hysteria!

Both Sister Sister and Sabrina The Witch were castoffs from ABC. Sister Sister was on ABC for only one season.
 
BRNout said:
kilamanjero said:
You know he can't answer it, but I'm glad somebody asked this very question.
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Really? Of course I can - once I actually see the question. Speak for yourself, hard as that may be to do - and see below.



fortmill said:
Since you're so offended, why don't you answer the question. Why do so many refer to UPN as the ghetto network? I'm just asking....
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Damn right I'm offended because too many use the label "racist" in inappropriate ways to slander those whom they don't agree with. Perhaps I should resort to calling you nasty names too?

Here's why: because they programmed to the lowest common social denominator. Unintelligent shows for generally unintelligent people. Pretty groundbreaking at the time, though it's pretty standard for programmers to do now. If you want to assign a racial component to that comment, perhaps you're the one with an issue. Because, from my standpoint, the lowest common denominator includes people of all races and ethnicities and so did UPN's crap programming.
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I saw more crap on the WB as UPN, but yet is wasn't called "ghetto". This is clear example of deflecting, but I already see what is being said in between the lines... ::)
 
I mostly miss The WB but UPN had a few shows I liked. There was "Dilbert", and "Everybody Hates Chris" which survived a few years on The CW. There was one show about a black church and another with Sherman Hemsley.

I didn't really discover The WB until I had a good clear affiliate in 2000. Soon after that "Smallville" (still on!) and "Gilmore Girls" made their debuts. Also "Reba", "The Jamie Kennedy Experiment" and numerous other shows. There was one very offensive show about Abe Lincoln I liked.

I enjoy "90210" on The CW (Yes, really!), and while I did enjoy both "Life Unexpected" and "Hellcats", both of those are taking a nosedive. "Hellcats" started with so much promise and is now all about relationships, while "LUX", as its fans call it, is now mostly people yelling at each other.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I mostly miss The WB but UPN had a few shows I liked. There was "Dilbert", and "Everybody Hates Chris" which survived a few years on The CW. There was one show about a black church and another with Sherman Hemsley.
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Same show..."Amen".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_(TV_series)

But according to that Wikipedia article, it was on NBC, not UPN.

I think UPN may have picked up repeats of it, but I'm not sure.
 
Yes, ''Amen'' was indeed on NBC. It ended in 1991, four years before the launch of UPN. Probably aired on your local affiliate in syndication.
 
nickelodeonfan97 said:
Yes, ''Amen'' was indeed on NBC. It ended in 1991, four years before the launch of UPN. Probably aired on your local affiliate in syndication.
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Though I am not the one who originally remembered it as being on UPN, I do seem to recall that our local UPN affiliate (WUAB/43, now "My 43") aired it in syndication. Maybe other UPN affiliates ran it as well.
 
kilamanjero said:
I saw more crap on the WB as UPN, but yet is wasn't called "ghetto". This is clear example of deflecting, but I already see what is being said in between the lines... ::)
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People who see that bogeyman hiding behind every corner are usually the ones who actually have racist tendencies. Clear example of transference.
 
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