"Doctor" Laura's filfty son

[kaufcom]

It's no different than Dr. Ronald Hoffman and Dr. Dean Edell telling me to give up beer, wine and foods I like and to start doing things I hate (exercise). Or Dave Ramsey saying if you can't pay cash, do without. Laura says give up some fun stuff, hold off on doing what feels good at the moment, don't always take the easy way, and maybe your life will work better. What part of this do you disagree with?

Personally I disagree with just about everything she says. But that's not my point. I did not criticize her for what she tells the faithful listeners on her show. I just pointed out what a hypocrite she was -- nude photos on the net, a perverted son, a woman who cut off relations with everyone in her family, even her mother, (who's decomposed body was found weeks after she died alone less than 10 miles from Dr. Laura's home.) I just question why anyone would take advise about how to relate to members of their family from someone as dysfunctional as she appears to be. If you have some information about Dr. Dean Idell's smoking habits, or experiences with unsafe sex or Dave Ramsay's gambling habits, I'd be interested in hearing about them.

 

[hammondo]

Baroosk, You must not yet have chlldren. What has her "perverted son" have to do with HER?

In fact, the even the nude pictures were a long time ago. Let's make YOUR past known and see if there is something that YOU did that you are not proud of today!

In fact, I'm not sure you are a credible poster here, because you judge other people too easily! Surf any porn lately? In my experience as a chaplain and a counselor, people who accuse others of crap, are usually the guiltiest.

In the Bible, Jesus says, "Take the POLE out of your own eye before you point out the toothpick in someone else's eye!"

O, and then this; BAROOSK SAID; "I just question why anyone would take advise (from her) about how to relate to members of their family."

Is SHE A HYPOCRITE?

Here is someone MORE IMPORTANT than Dr Laura; OMG - and a LIBERAL!!!! Why should people pay attention to Ted Kennedy, who is a MURDERER - but makes LAWS for YOU and ME to follow. While were talkin' here, why is Bill "IMPEACHED" Clinton worth listening to?

Obviously you know NOTHING about "counseling." If every person in Dr. Laura's profession would STOP because of something in their past, ONLY JESUS would be left.

(incidentally, thats "advice" not "advise" the way YOU spelled it.)

Dr. Laura is ENTERTAINMENT. Isn't there a disclaimer that says that? You must call and believe "the psychic friends" network too, eh?

 

[Al Johnson]

Personally I disagree with just about everything she says. ,,,

• no sex outside of marriage
• moms shouldn't work
• divorce is wrong
• abortion is wrong
• living together without marriage is wrong
• getting married too young is wrong and foolish
• homosexuality is destructive and "a biological error",
• gay marriage is wrong
• girls should not dress like "sluts"(I really don't like this one.)

Baroosk, I have to agree with two of the points hammondo made: The pictures were a long time ago. And she is not her son. However, hammando's use of logic and the English language still need work. And he must be able to come up with better reasons to support Schlessinger's advice than "God will get you for that." Since Schlessinger has stopped practicing any formal belief system, she puts her advice in strictly practical terms (without any appeal to morality or divine authority).

It's too bad progressive talk radio has never had a personal advice show (to my knowledge). I.E. America did have show with new age minister Marianne Williamson but that was as close, I believe, as anybody has ever come in liberal radio. It's one thing to say you don't agree with her views, but what advice would you give to someone with kinds of problems she deals with on her show? If taken, her advice does address the issues and concerns people bring to her. All the behaviors you cited as bases for disagreement with Schlessinger do have practical, real world risks and consequences (and, no, I'm not talking about hellfire and brimstone; I am talking about here and now). And those risks and consequences you seem to dismiss.

PS: Dr. Laura says "girls" should not dress like sluts. Girls: Underage females. Also known as jail bait. When I have heard her on this topic she was talking about girls in middle school and younger. Be careful, "really liking" that can get you arrested.

 

[kaufcom]

Baroosk, You must not yet have chlldren.

I have two -- a boy and girl

What has her "perverted son" have to do with HER?

The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree

In fact, the even the nude pictures were a long time ago. Let's make YOUR past known and see if there is something that YOU did that you are not proud of today!

I am not a talk radio giving advice to millions -- just a blogger with a few thousand readers. In any case, you'd have a hard time finding anything like nude pictures on the net about me.

In fact, I'm not sure you are a credible poster here, because you judge other people too easily! Surf any porn lately? In my experience as a chaplain and a counselor, people who accuse others of crap, are usually the guiltiest.

Let thee who has not searched for porn cast the first stone.

In the Bible, Jesus says, "Take the POLE out of your own eye before you point out the toothpick in someone else's eye!"

I didn't know they had toothpicks in Jesus's time.

Here is someone MORE IMPORTANT than Dr Laura; OMG - and a LIBERAL!!!! Why should people pay attention to Ted Kennedy, who is a MURDERER

That's a libelous statement. In any case, Kennedy takes a lot of heat from right wingers like you. Not here, because this is radio (not a political) board.

Obviously you know NOTHING about "counseling." If every person in Dr. Laura's profession would STOP because of something in their past, ONLY JESUS would be left.

It's not just her past. It's her past, present and probably future.

(incidentally, thats "advice" not "advise" the way YOU spelled it.)

Cut me some slack

Dr. Laura is ENTERTAINMENT. Isn't there a disclaimer that says that?

No there isn't such a disclaimer.

 

[hammondo]

What has her "perverted son" have to do with HER? "YOU said; The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree" Bar old boy, that's quite unfair.

Woody Harrelson's dad was a conviced murder. I think Woody is a traitor, but not a murderer.

Re; Ted Kennedy; The tos here says (something like) "public figures cannot be libeled." Your answer was (quote) In any case, Kennedy takes a lot of heat from right wingers like you. Not here, because this is radio (not a political) board.

Though I DO mostly favor that the 10 commandments are NOT suggestions, my politics are certainly NOT overall, conservative.

I did notice you did not deny that Teddy is both a MURDERER and a LAW MAKER. Doesn't THAT sound like a strange combination to you? I used that example about hypocrites that are LIBERAL (like you).

You might not have nude pix on the net, but there is quite a collection of HILARIOUS LIB moments from you.

You also said, (re Laura S) It's not just her past. It's her past, present and probably future.

YUP - Now I'm SURE you are in the "psychic friends network."

I've heard the "entertainment" disclaimer in her show. Must be a local thing.

I'll cut you as much slack as you cut Dr. Laura. She DOES have credentials. I'm not aware of yours.

 

[Al Johnson]

What has her "perverted son" have to do with HER? "YOU said; The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree" Bar old boy, that's quite unfair.

Woody Harrelson's dad was a conviced murder. I think Woody is a traitor, but not a murderer.

Re; Ted Kennedy; The tos here says (something like) "public figures cannot be libeled." Your answer was (quote) In any case, Kennedy takes a lot of heat from right wingers like you. Not here, because this is radio (not a political) board.

Though I DO mostly favor that the 10 commandments are NOT suggestions, my politics are certainly NOT overall, conservative.

Actually, there are 613 commandments. And the Torah says children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and great-great grandchildren will be punished for the sins of their fathers.

It also appears website attributed to Laura's kid may have been a put-up job and he didn't do it. Motives unknown.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

I'm not a fan of the Dr. Laura Show. I find it boring and very repetitive. Having said that, I also do not see the point of bashing her personally. I agree with the various posters who said, that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Each one of us have done foolish, stupid, or immoral things at sometime in our lives that we'd just like to forget. Being a radio celebrity like Dr. Laura, she doesn't appear to get that kind of break. As far as blaming her for the illeged actions of her son, that too is unfair. A family can have three children, all raised by the same parents, in the same house, with the same income, same schools, etc, etc. Yet each of those three kids will be different. One may become a very Godly person like a Mother Theresa, the other may be just a regular type of hard working person, who lives a normal healthy life. If the third child grows up and happens to become a criminal, etc, is that the fault of the parents? Is Dr. Laura's parents to blame for her poor choices as a young adult women? Is she to blame for any poor choices her son makes? Of course not. If you have a problem with Dr. Laura's show, let's discuss that after all this is a radio board, not a gossip mill.

 

[Al Johnson]

I'm not a fan of the Dr. Laura Show. I find it boring and very repetitive. Having said that, I also do not see the point of bashing her personally. I agree with the various posters who said, that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Each one of us have done foolish, stupid, or immoral things at sometime in our lives that we'd just like to forget. Being a radio celebrity like Dr. Laura, she doesn't appear to get that kind of break. As far as blaming her for the illeged actions of her son, that too is unfair. A family can have three children, all raised by the same parents, in the same house, with the same income, same schools, etc, etc. Yet each of those three kids will be different. One may become a very Godly person like a Mother Theresa, the other may be just a regular type of hard working person, who lives a normal healthy life. If the third child grows up and happens to become a criminal, etc, is that the fault of the parents? Is Dr. Laura's parents to blame for her poor choices as a young adult women? Is she to blame for any poor choices her son makes? Of course not. If you have a problem with Dr. Laura's show, let's discuss that after all this is a radio board, not a gossip mill.

God forgives.
People who agree with you overlook or condone.
People who disagree with you never forgive and never forget.

Great achievers tend to be great sinners. When a pope dies, he is given seven absolutions on the theory that "having been greater than other men, he will have greater need of them."

Sinners are also more interesting than "saints;" reformed sinners most of all. Nobody likes a goody-two shoes.

Interesting how some people can't mention Rush without mentioning drugs.

What are Dr. Laura's sins? Despite her own history (or maybe because of it) she often comes across as a nasty scold and devoid of empathy. But then her show is for listeners not callers. And Dr. Laura's listeners apparently like hearing her beat up somebody whose life is in the toilet and telling them they deserve it. Holier-than-thou types may not have the guts to throw the first stone, but they sure enjoy hearing Dr. Laura do it. The psychological mechanism is easy enough to understand: Church-goers want to sin. They envy all the fun they think sinners are having. They avoid sin not from choice but from fear of eternal damnation. The thing they hate most is the idea that some sinner might have all that fun and get away with it. So they take a sadistic glee in Dr. Laura verbally beating up sinners.

 

[MikefromDelaware]

What are Dr. Laura's sins? Despite her own history (or maybe because of it) she often comes across as a nasty scold and devoid of empathy. But then her show is for listeners not callers. And Dr. Laura's listeners apparently like hearing her beat up somebody whose life is in the toilet and telling them they deserve it. Holier-than-thou types may not have the guts to throw the first stone, but they sure enjoy hearing Dr. Laura do it. The psychological mechanism is easy enough to understand: Church-goers want to sin. They envy all the fun they think sinners are having. They avoid sin not from choice but from fear of eternal damnation. The thing they hate most is the idea that some sinner might have all that fun and get away with it. So they take a sadistic glee in Dr. Laura verbally beating up sinners.


I'd agree with your statement that Dr. Laura often comes across as a nasty scold and devoid of empathy. Apparently enough folks do like to listen to someone verbally abuse someone else on the radio so that Dr. Laura and others like her have successful radio careers. Of course Dr. Laura isn't the first to use this style for their talk show, Joe Pyne orignally of WILM fame was the first as well as many others over the years.

You tar all church goers with the same brush. Yes there are some as you mentioned who would take sadistic glee in Dr. Laura verbally beating up these so called sinners. Not all church goers are of this stripe though. The "born again" experience is where you have an encounter with Jesus Christ in a spiritual way and your view of life is changed. Those who truly have had this experience, some might call it an Ephany, do not envy all the fun the sinners are having, no not at all. You lose your desire for those former things you did. The term born again as used in John 3:16 comes from the Greek words "anagennao anothen" meaning to be born from above, a spiritual rebirth, if you will. They are not trying to avoid sin for fear of eternal damnation, the desire for that particular action is gone. Mankind can't avoid sin on his/her own. We become changed people on the inside, because of what Christ did for us on the cross at Calvary.

Didn't mean to get preachy, but some clarification was called for. However, there are those in "THE CHURCH" who having been forgiven all their sins by God, forget that they are to have that same sort of compassion for others as Christ had for them. That doesn't excuse the behavior, but it isn't all churchgoers either.

 

[hammondo]

Mike, Very eloquent post.

As soneone who claims to be Christian, but is often in situations where people degrade religion, I often react to quickly and with too much venom.

Thank you. Happy Pentecost.

 

[NDXUFan]

Re: "Doctor" Laura's filthy son

Not the first time for a story about "lurid images" on the Internet involving "Dr" Laura.
Nine years ago, those images were nude photos of "Dr" Laura herself, taken during her affair (while married) with pioneer talk show host Bill Ballance in the 70s. First "Dr" Laura was a caller, then a regular caller, then a member of the show's panel, then she got Ballance's job. Somewhere along the line, they had an affair and she posed for some pictures, which Ballance later sold to a company which posted them online. She got Ballance's job; he got the last laugh.

At least some of the nude pictures of "Dr" Laura are still online. If you do an image search on Google you can find some (turn off Safe Search first).

Now the family tradition continues.

Not a fan of Laura, two words, Bill Clinton,


Shark

 

[NDXUFan]

Baroosk, I like your board but these constant attempts (here and there) to engage in character assassination of those with whom you disagree politically is getting old. It makes you no different than they. "He who is without sin" and all that.

No I think the saying is "he who does not have microphone and the ability to reach 250 million people each week can cast as many stones as he wants at he who does have a microphone and the ability to reach 250 million people each week."

You don't like her show? OK, what's wrong with her format or presentation?
You disagree with her advice? What exactly do you disagree with and why?

I answer this question on my blog. However, for those who don't want to go there here are few things that disagree with about Dr. Laura's advice.

• no sex outside of marriage
• moms shouldn't work
• divorce is wrong
• abortion is wrong
• living together without marriage is wrong
• getting married too young is wrong and foolish
• homosexuality is destructive and "a biological error",
• gay marriage is wrong
• girls should not dress like "sluts"(I really don't like this one.)

Want more?

You do have a double standard for those you agree with and those you disagree with, especially over who is allowed to use academic titles in radio. Rush overusing prescription pain-killers: Bad! Franken and recreational drugs at SNL: Oh, well.

Yeah, but Franken never said this:

—"If people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up"

Rush Limbaugh said this.

If anyone knows of nude photos of Stephanie Miller, please provide a link. Likewise Laura Ingraham.
If anyone knows of nude photos of Randi Rhodes, I don't want to hear about it (or think about it).

The reason is that there are no nude pictures of Miller, Ingraham, and Rhodes. (on the net that is.)

It is clear to me that you have no clue about the pain levels suffered by people who have had back surgery. I thought people like you were supposed to have compassion for the suffering? No, it is not like the coke parties attended by your good friend, Bill Clinton. Read Partners in Power, Roger Morris, Ph.D., who is a Democrat that worked for LBJ and Mondale. Have you ever had surgery in the hospital? If you did, like I have, you would not utter such nonsense.

Shark