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Does anyone find it kinda ironic?

landtuna said:
CTListener said:
Natasha Bedingfield's and Colbie Caillat's songs would be first-rate pop confections regardless of the decade they came out.

That must be why those names are on the tip of everyone's tongue.

Not on the tongues of many people over, say, 24, granted, but that's the nature of the beast. Pop radio is so splintered today, and older generations so hostile to the music it plays, that the cross-generational recognition factor is much less than the '70s, when everyone know who Elton John was. As I said, times have changed. I'm 55 and neither like nor understand hip-hop, the dominant popular music form of the past decade-plus. But I can still see (and hear) why a pop ditty like "Unwritten" or a rock song of the past couple of years by acts like Daughtry and Green Day become hits. Are "Unwritten" and "Wake Me Up When September Ends" "better" than "He's So Fine" or "Takin' Care of Business"? I'd say no, but then, they're the songs of someone else's childhood and teenage years, not mine.
Yes, there are a great number of disposable acts in pop and rap today (and some of the rap acts are getting disposed of permanently), but hey, we had our Ohio Expresses and New Vaudeville Bands and Henry Grosses, right? Times change, tastes change, but really, nothing of substance has changed.
 
CTListener said:
Yes, there are a great number of disposable acts in pop and rap today (and some of the rap acts are getting disposed of permanently), but hey, we had our Ohio Expresses and New Vaudeville Bands and Henry Grosses, right? Times change, tastes change, but really, nothing of substance has changed.

Oh, we're going to disagree big time on "nothing of substance has changed".

The Ohio Expresses might have been very light pop music but at least they made music. In no way can rap be considered music. Hip Hop seems to be the Disco of today. Take away the video from today's "stars" and you have......nothing. No originality. No skill. Nada. Nothing but bling, backwards ballcaps, pointy fingers and pants on the ground.

Although the Stones and Byrds got plenty of bad reviews for their antics and dress back in the day I don't remember any of them singing the trashy lyrics that today's "stars" are putting out.

My parents weren't fond of Rock n Roll back in the 50's but they never got upset or banned me from playing or listening to it. I know many parents today, myself included, that absolutely do not permit rap and some hip hop to be played by their kids today. Hostile? You bet your bippy!
 
landtuna said:
CTListener said:
Yes, there are a great number of disposable acts in pop and rap today (and some of the rap acts are getting disposed of permanently), but hey, we had our Ohio Expresses and New Vaudeville Bands and Henry Grosses, right? Times change, tastes change, but really, nothing of substance has changed.

Oh, we're going to disagree big time on "nothing of substance has changed".

The Ohio Expresses might have been very light pop music but at least they made music. In no way can rap be considered music. Hip Hop seems to be the Disco of today. Take away the video from today's "stars" and you have......nothing. No originality. No skill. Nada. Nothing but bling, backwards ballcaps, pointy fingers and pants on the ground.

Although the Stones and Byrds got plenty of bad reviews for their antics and dress back in the day I don't remember any of them singing the trashy lyrics that today's "stars" are putting out.

My parents weren't fond of Rock n Roll back in the 50's but they never got upset or banned me from playing or listening to it. I know many parents today, myself included, that absolutely do not permit rap and some hip hop to be played by their kids today. Hostile? You bet your bippy!

I disagree, hip hop is an art form, that emerged from the streets of NYC in the 70's. Back then it was a form of poetry, expression for a voice that usually was unheard outside of their respective neighborhoods. Groups and artists like Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, The Roots, Common, KRS-One, etc. are real hip hop. The crap you hear on WJMN does not count, that is watered down hip POP that is made to be disposable hits. The older stuff, most of it was thoughtful and intelligent without the "gangsta" stuff you hear today that you can't play in front of kids. I suggest you check out some of the better hip hop acts before you judge it as a whole..
 
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