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Dog House Suspended

THe sponsors (staples GM ETc) had cancelled from the CBS show, from the actual Imus in the morning radio show, that is why he got booted.

Well, that is at odds with what the two lunkheads that took over the show on the following Monday said. In a long rant they stated repeatedly that there were sponsors lined-up and committed to replace those that bailed. If true, I suspect that this was a case of bosses he had badmouthed in the past and employees who'd been the victims of Imus' vituperations pushing management's hand, similar to what the head of NBC News claimed.

Lino
 
He got booted because the head of CBS is a gutless whimp. Now terrorists like Al Sharpton can direct the programming on the public airwaves.
 
ruger22com said:
Now terrorists like Al Sharpton can direct the programming on the public airwaves.

Interesting that you called Sharpton a "terrorist". Bernard McGuirk referred to Sharpton that way at least twice last night on Hannity & Colmes.
 
BostonRandy said:
ruger22com said:
Now terrorists like Al Sharpton can direct the programming on the public airwaves.

Interesting that you called Sharpton a "terrorist". Bernard McGuirk referred to Sharpton that way at least twice last night on Hannity & Colmes.

Yeah exactly! typical fox news viewer who regurgitates word for word what he hears on that channel. Would you care to throw in a jab at Obama being a terrorist because his middle nae is "Hussein" to while you're at it?. OF course McGuirk has to refer to Sharpton as a "terrorist" he was on Fox, and HANNITY AND COLMES no less. He knew that language would resonate with an audience he was trying to connect with. Plus he feels that Sharpton cost him his gig when he had just signed a new contract. Again, as much as I tthink Sharpton can be completely self serving, he's not to blame here. Do you really think that msnbc and Cbs care what Sharpton thinks?.......not unless he's been appointed CEO of Staples, GM, Bigelow Tea, and Proctor and Gamble while nobody was looking. They threatened to boycott, that's what moved cbs, not Sharpton's threatened boycotts, corporate america/aka CLIENTS,,,,,,,,,, That is reality kids.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Do you really think that msnbc and Cbs care what Sharpton thinks?.......not unless he's been appointed CEO of Staples, GM, Bigelow Tea, and Proctor and Gamble while nobody was looking. They threatened to boycott, that's what moved cbs, not Sharpton's threatened boycotts, corporate america/aka CLIENTS,,,,,,,,,, That is reality kids.

The reality is that Sharpton and his cronies made a big stink about it and the advertisers had to cave in order to save face. Sharpton was responsible.
 
Starscream said:
TowerBuzz said:
Do you really think that msnbc and Cbs care what Sharpton thinks?.......not unless he's been appointed CEO of Staples, GM, Bigelow Tea, and Proctor and Gamble while nobody was looking. They threatened to boycott, that's what moved cbs, not Sharpton's threatened boycotts, corporate america/aka CLIENTS,,,,,,,,,, That is reality kids.

The reality is that Sharpton and his cronies made a big stink about it and the advertisers had to cave in order to save face. Sharpton was responsible.

Save face from Sharpton? listen I know he's a favorite target of the angry, white, blue collar, suburbanites but you're giving him way too much credit for havinig that kind of power. Were talking about Staples, GM, Proctor adn Gamble, corproations that worrya bout their stock price dropping because perception, Sharpton outside of New York does not carry that sort of weight. Sharpton did indeed make a stink but advertisers do not cave because of him that is just false. Plus Sharpton was not even the firstt one to make it an issue it was the BLOGOSPHERE, Sharpton was actually a little late to the table by comparison. Advertisers bailed becuase they feared the association, Sharpton didnt do that.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Save face from Sharpton? listen I know he's a favorite target of the angry, white, blue collar, suburbanites but you're giving him way too much credit for havinig that kind of power. Were talking about Staples, GM, Proctor adn Gamble, corproations that worrya bout their stock price dropping because perception, Sharpton outside of New York does not carry that sort of weight. Sharpton did indeed make a stink but advertisers do not cave because of him that is just false. Plus Sharpton was not even the firstt one to make it an issue it was the BLOGOSPHERE, Sharpton was actually a little late to the table by comparison. Advertisers bailed becuase they feared the association, Sharpton didnt do that.

Sharpton, outside of New York, may not carry that kind of weight. But those advertisers have a base in New York, where he does carry influence. Anyway, do you think the advertisers would have bailed if Imus' remarks were only covered in the blogosphere? No, of course not. Most people are smart enough to realize that bloggers aren't real journalists.

I'll go so far to suggest that whatever national coverage Imus got before Sharpton got on board would not have resulted in his firing or advertisers threatening a boycott had he not gotten in the middle. Every report began showing his face, playing his voice, elevating him to "black leader status". The media gives him attention that he doesn't always deserve.

Since this thread is supposed to be about The Doghouse - let me tie this together... This Asian or Chinese advocacy group - do you really think they're gonna have the power to get JV and Elvis fired? Probably not. But what if Sharpton decides to latch his wagon to this? I guarantee the story will make the network news (they're based in NY where Sharpton sadly has influence) and CBS would cave in again after advertisers get spooked by Sharpton's antics.

This whole quashing of insensitive speech is a slipperly slope. We don't have a first amendment right to speech everyone agrees with. If the radio companies don't start getting some backbone, they're gonna lose yet more good talent to satellite radio. Sports, news and traffic aside, what does local radio offer in New York (or anywhere, really) anymore? At least the hot talk format is different, if not a ratings winner everywhere. Take it away, then political talk isn't too far behind (ask your Democrat representative about the desire to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine!) Then what's left? Bland music, bland voicetracked personality-free personalities and tons of commercials.

And call me crazy (everyone else does) but that is exactly what is driving people away from terrestrial radio.
 
If the radio companies don't start getting some backbone, they're gonna lose yet more good talent to satellite radio.

Much of the problem here is what/who they would be defending are simply offensive to the majority, many of whom are sharp enough to see the difference between free andcommercial speech.

As much as I loathe them, there is some value to people such as limbaugh, Hannity etc. Mostly they are mouthpieces for the reactionary right, but occasionally might come up with something worthwhile. A Howard stern and similar is simply about dumb smut.

At least the hot talk format is different, if not a ratings winner everywhere.

Well, it's been tried twice here in NYC and not exactly been a success. The problem is that all of these attempts at "hot talk" amount to just imitating stern's approach, some dumb bimbo telling callers to say hello to her breasts, others joking about bathroom hygiene, and those two in the morning uttering such memorable phrases as "poo pants'.

This is dumb and not worth most people's time. The fact that it has been done here in town for a total of nearly 4 years (WNEW and current) should be enough proof.

I understand the motivation of doing a youth-oriented talk scheme, most of us got the radio habit with free music and there are now devices that do a better job, radio is having to compete with these, but if you are going to offer a talk format, why make it so dumb.

then political talk isn't too far behind (ask your Democrat representative about the desire to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine!)

The proverbial red-herring and now scared cry of the far right. They have good reason to be scared, their cynical use of talk radio to spread lies and poison the political discourse in this country has led to a growing backlash and a senseless war.

Political talk radio didn't begin with Limbaugh in 1988, it just got alot more biased and became a tool of propaganda for extremists.

BTW: I doubt there is any chance of a "Fairness Doctrine" ever coming back. The marketplace and ageing demo's will kill con-talk in the next 5-7 years.

Then what's left? Bland music, bland voicetracked personality-free personalities and tons of commercials

I couldn't agree more, but most of this is driven by the fear of companies that paid way too much for stations back after the Republican congress passed deregulation in the mid-nineties. Also, no one forsaw the competition that would result from new tech and the fact that radio's slice of the pie will inevitably shrink.

Lino
 
Since this thread is supposed to be about The Doghouse - let me tie this together... This Asian or Chinese advocacy group - do you really think they're gonna have the power to get JV and Elvis fired? Probably not. But what if Sharpton decides to latch his wagon to this? I guarantee the story will make the network news (they're based in NY where Sharpton sadly has influence) and CBS would cave in again after advertisers get spooked by Sharpton's antics.



And call me crazy (everyone else does) but that is exactly what is driving people away from terrestrial radio.


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Unfortunately Zach, yes I do think they have the power to get Jv and Elvis canned because for one thing an asian senator from California is involved, (I assume he is Asian becuase of his name which Ive forgotten at the moment) we're talking about the other side of the country. More importantly, this came barely a week after Imus and not two weeks after Doghouse's run in with GLaad. I love em but I can't see em surviving this one, sadly.
 
I need to clear something up. The bit( the prank call) happens to be an old bit from the SF days. They redid the bit with a computer voice. Now if you think about it, the person on the other end of the call never really heard this, because it happened many years ago. Just wanted to clear that up.
 
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