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Don't people in Lafayette know what day it is?

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lostinlafayette

Everytime I listen to K105 at night I hear what night it is. No kidding, it's only been Thursday for 20+ hours now. At least this guy they have on now doesn't tell you how long he's working before every break. The last guy constantly told you he was working until midnight. Good for you!
Every PD I ever had would have put an end to that immediately, but I hear it each and every night I tune into K105. Talk about something meaningful, or shut up!
 
i one time heard somebody say its 57 minutes past the hour
 
I agree. This jock needs to break that crutch. Yes, tell me something meaningful.

How about an aircheck once in awhile. The PD needs to take care of this.
 
People, I respectfully disagree. If you work overnights, you may be geting up at 7 or 8 pm and it's the START of your day. Even WGN makes "day references" precisely for that reason. LOTS of radio stations with "automatic logging" do that, some more subtly than others.

Also, this may be happening so (in a paperless radio station) when the LOGGING RECORDER works, the person who needs to search for the "composite week" information to renew THE LICENSE or to make AFFIDAVITS of performance with exact times needed for co-op advertisers, whoever has that job would have it easier to figure out the exact time.

Leaky, that "57 past the hour" is probably a satellite fed program.
 
I don't see it as day references like WGN, I just see it as space filler. It's a crutch plain and simple and an annoying one at that. I don't work overnights, but when I wake up in the morning I pretty much know what day it is, I don't need the radio to tell me, "Good Monday morning!" before every commercial break.
 
I've wrote about this on other boards.

Most jocks read off of index cards, say their names, the time, and/or the time of day (sometimes all in the same break!). And then they pick the song selected for them on the computer. Or they play the heavily edited phoner to match up a song they already have coming up. Spontanaity is in short supply.

"Hey, it's ______________ with ya"

"Got some __________________comin' up for ya"

"We're gonna be givin' away_____________"

Pick a crutch...any crutch...

::)
 
Curious, without a paper log, HOW does the person who does affidavits figure out when the commercial ran?
 
donkeypuncher said:
Lafayette Unplugged said:
"We're gonna be givin' away_____________"
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what exactly is wrong with that saying friend?
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Say "gonnabegivinaway" as one word. Just listen to the radio for 5 minutes and it will drive you nuts.

Different branch of the same tree on "for ya" and "with ya" or saying "Mr." or "Little" before the artist's name when front/back announcing:

"Here's a little John Mellencamp for ya on a Thursday"
or
"Here's Mr. Bob Seger for ya on a Tuesday night"

Pick a crutch...any crutch.
 
HEY YOU GENIUSES HERE>>>>

Curious, without a paper log, HOW does the person who does affidavits figure out when the commercial ran without wha you consider to be a crutch (that sometimes may not be)?

When I worked at WAZY in 1969-72, we had a paper log.
 
What are you talking about. If you need to find when a spot ran, you query your automation system.
 
tjthedj said:
HEY YOU GENIUSES HERE>>>>

Curious, without a paper log, HOW does the person who does affidavits figure out when the commercial ran without wha you consider to be a crutch (that sometimes may not be)?

When I worked at WAZY in 1969-72, we had a paper log.
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When the commercial ran and what the jock says on the air have nothing to do with each other to my knowledge.
Unless I'm missing something.

The spot log is generated with the times, the spots are played by the jock, and then the bills are sent out showing the client where there spots ran and how many times. The client pays the bill. And then the owner of the station goes on a golfing trip. I'm pretty sure that's the path.

Help me out, brothers! Am I misunderstanding the question?

No, they're crutch phrases for sure. There's no scientific or technical reason related to why a jock can't stop saying the same thing over and over again. You're overthinking why they are saying what they say.
Some jock says "on a Thursday night" because it's related to the spot invoice? G'huh?

"Hey Geniuses"....good one. They use computers now, too, I hear.
 
Ur, I'm starting to believe you are correct. Radio may attract this kind of people.

Unplugged and lost may be appropriate names.

It has NO connection to a paper log, but to the RECORDED RECORD of what was broadcast.

"querying" your automation system proves NOTHING to me. Showing me your paper log won't be enough because (thanks to the fcc) it may not be a legal document. Those are YOUR record - not something that will work in court, like a program recording or an affidavit.

I'm a client; say, Burger Chef (once a great place in Lafayette, and a near hourly WAZY spot client, but now gone). I NEED to know WHEN (exact time) my ads ran on WAZY so I (local store) can get my co-op dollars from the franchise.

HOW is that accomplished? You said, "the bills are sent out showing the client WHERE their spots ran and how many times." WHERE? I bought WAZY not WGLM. I need to know WHEN - the time (using the clock!!) Is that CLEAR enough? I won't pay unless I know.

More clearly (I hope!) HOW is the spot schedule PROVEN to have run?
Does a board op keep a log with times that eventually get notarized?

Is there a recorded record of the program? The "recorded record" is thE BEST method and is used in many stations. THIS is what (example) WGN does, WOWO in Ft. Wayne, KMOX, St. Louis all do.

It is easily verified as the announcer often gives the time on the air and a (time) counter in the player is matched with that time so an acceptable commercial start TIME can later be determined.

What if I DISPUTE that the proper spot ran at the time contracted for? HOW does the station PROVE that the proper spot (say...Malt sale - NOT generic jingle) ran?

Thanks.
geesh!
 
(Wiping hands) I'm out!

Get notarized materials along with your invoice on co-op issues.

Spots are written down/logged to play at a certain time. They either are or, barring some malfunction at the transmitter or pre-empting, aren't aired and that is reflected on the invoice. That invoice should with the name of the spot, the time the spot played and how many times, should have the station logo on the letterhead or on the return envelope.
Yup, the board op or whoever loaded the spots has a log.

I don't know if WGN does that for the same reason or not. Do they also send subliminal messages for the listener to take up on involuntarily?

There's no way for any client to dispute anything if you have a papertrail of computer logs, invoices, co-op filed, times and titles for each spot, etc.

You said you actually DID work for a radio station 30 years ago, right?
 
You said, "There's no way for any client to dispute anything if you have a papertrail of computer logs, invoices, co-op filed, times and titles for each spot, etc."

See you in court! I WOULD NOT PAY because you can't prove the right ad ran. I'd go to a station that could PROVE my ads ran.

I might be a thousand miles away. Your an underpaid student radio geek who is eating pizza and doing homework when my spots ran. There are tomato sauce stains on the log that make it unreadable. You'd lie, anyway! In your example, you can't prove to me the correct spot ran.

I'd LOVE for you to sue me. I OWNED a station where the previous owner was seldom paid co-op money because he NEVER provided verifiable information. That owner also said they ran alot of religious programs that never "really' ran. THAT happened in 1973. That station owner was about to be sued for fraud (before he died of a heart attack and I bought the station, and made the red ink black within a year). You'd certainly need better verification today.

Your invoice doesn't really mean squat. YOU could tell me anything. LOTS of radio stations don't drop power when they are supposed to, actually jeopardizing their licenses. Why then, should they NOT lie on invoices?

I worked for a few stations, including WAZY, WIND and KMOX. I OWNED 4 (for 13 years) and sold them for a million three hundred thousand in 1985. I also found and sold the frequecies that are now WGLM, WNDZ and some others in the midwest.

Good luck.
 
Take a breath...relax...it's going to be alright. I think you are reading way too much into this, and taking it way too personal to boot.
I don't believe this is the reason why he keeps notifying his listeners of the date, but each of us are entitled to our opinions. You can believe it is for verification, and I can believe it is a crutch. Fair enough. Problem resolved. I vented, you vented, everyone got enlightened!
 
All I'm doing is trying to CLARIFY for a few people who seem to have so little experience they don't understand agency business. That's all.

Radio in Lafayette (especially if these people are correct) hasn't come too far since WXUS was half religion ad half hard rock with their Sparta board.
 
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