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DTV: Back To The Future

landtuna said:
kenglish said:
And, sadly, many of them are watching a "Digital TV" signal that is actually ANALOG.

Do you mean their cable is analog-only? Otherwise I didn't follow that.

Yes. I've found that many folks are just watching the analog NTSC signal from Basic Cable on their new TV (or, old TV, but thinking that it's "Digital" now).
I've seen people with the analog, channel 3 output of their HD Cable box plugged in to a brand-new big-screen HD set.
Many people are still watching satellite SDTV feeds, via their old DBS receivers (Rf or V/A outputs), and believing it's "HDTV" because the station's logo says "HD" now.
 
All I care about is being able to watch.

I haven't had a single problem with a tape in the past week. So I feel safe using a new tape for "The Simpsons". I can just rewind it back to the end of "Jerry Springer" each time and then it won't be stopping at the same place each time. That might do the trick.

Meanwhile, a station on my cable system is bringing back "The Simpsons". I should TiVo it, though that station did the same few episodes over and over back in the day, while the one I'm taping has a lot of episodes I haven't seen in a LOOONG time, and I end up watching again because I'm just not sure. And no pixillation!

I'm still having a problem with TiVo attempting to tape a bunch of shows I won't even be able to watch. I should check the manual. I should also check to see how to prevent taping of shows I didn't want. My power bill was still kind of high last month.

I had to watch the beginning of "Spider-Man 2" last night. I've had problems with pixillation on the TV I watched for five minutes during Andy Rooney, though no problems last night. For the rest, I just went to cable.
 
Well, it's over. I finally had to retire that VCR. After just two weeks, and after not being used for taping for three days, it ejected the tape when the tape stopped. The tape was stuck in the VCR and when I finally pulled the cassette out, the tape looked like dental floss. I suppose this is a situation that can be remedied, by someone who knows what they're doing. The tape that got stuck but remained normal width was able to be rewound past the problem area on the other VCR, but this one could not.

So I swapped the TVs since the signal on the station where I tape "The Simpsons" is undependable in the bedroom. When I unplugged each TV, I managed to unplug the converter box by mistake in each case. Not a problem in the living room, but I had to rescan in the bedroom. 13 channels now! Not counting subchannels. Actually, by pressing the Up button, I went to 13 channels. Four gave me "No signal". A fifth had a frozen picture. A sixth channel looked like I was on LSD, but it was the first time since before June 12 that I had seen this news anchor, such as he was. That fifth channel gives me no problems whatsoever in the living room. Neither did the channel with "The Simpsons", though in the bedroom that one gives me "No signal". Even though other stations with towers nearby come in fine or at least have minor pixilation problems.

In the living room, I did have a hard time plugging the cord from the antenna back into the converter box. I don't know why. It's been plugged in just fine since February (the antenna end came unplugged once). And it took me several days to solve the problem. The next day I remembered to tape "The Simpsons" but it's a good thing I didn't turn the TV off, because I was having serious pixilation. I remembered about the problem with the wire from the antenna, and I tried harder to make it work. That did the job, though I did have more pixilation than usual.

The next day, serious pixilation and even "No signal". How long will this go on? One problem I hadn't considered: the wire from the antenna has been in the same position for more than six months. It was obviously ideal because the two stations never had problems. Almost never, anyway. The wire is longer than it needs to be, and while I couldn't put it back the way it was, it seemed fine after I adjusted it.

Saturday, more of the same. I kept checking the connection and adjusting the wire, but by the end of the first hour of the movie I was watching, no more problems. I did hear thunder before the movie started. Maybe that was it. It wasn't serious pixilation.

In the bedroom, I checked the converter box one day, since I'm no longer turning the TV on daily to watch a tpe. The converter box was off (thought the green light was on) and I couldn't even get the menu to work. I tried turning it off and turning it back on, and bingo! Plus one of the channels I wasn't picking up the night I rescanned was back, but the channel that looked like I was on drugs was gone. I can say that I lose no networks if the cable goes out, though NBC will be iffy, and possibly The CW as well.
 
More frustration!

Thursday night, everything's perfect for two hours.

Friday, I tape two episodes of "The Simpsons" and, while I could see enough to conclude I had seen them, I've never seen so much piillation on a program that was halfway watchable. It would be fine for a minute or two and then the picture would freeze with stripes. Interesting when Marge's hair just appeared like Sabrina the Teenage Witch was there.

I tried again the next day and it was acting the same way. I thought the antenna wire was loose. But of course I remembered that when I replaced the TV, that wire didn't stay in the same position. It seems fine now, but I haven't watched for two hours or even one hour straight. Wait, I did watch for a half-hour yesterday and no problems. But I was seeing the last 30 minutes of a movie that started at noon. No 2:00 movie! A stupid infomercial!

On converter box no. 2, I got "no signal" on Friday. I had to turn the box off and then on again. And when it comes on it's on channel 7. Channel 8 is fine.

Last night I remember turning on channel 8 and it was fine. Now I'm going to have to tinker with the antenna and see if that improves the signal ...
 
vchimpanzee said:
Last night I remember turning on channel 8 and it was fine. Now I'm going to have to tinker with the antenna and see if that improves the signal ...

I assume you didn't have these issues with your analog signal?
 
landtuna said:
vchimpanzee said:
Last night I remember turning on channel 8 and it was fine. Now I'm going to have to tinker with the antenna and see if that improves the signal ...

I assume you didn't have these issues with your analog signal?
Not these exact issues. With analog the wind might blow and mess up the picture and cause some buzzing but a lot of the time I could still hear it in these situations. Sometimes I couldn't hear when the picture got messed up. When the picture freezes the sound goes out completely.

I believe I said here my Fox station, which is on cable, has "Simpsons" reruns again, but they're more recent and ones that get shown again and again.
 
Before I went to the beach, I hooked up the TV/VCR that I got which had just been repaired. It was just like one I already had which is hooked up to cable and I don't want to stop using that one. I unhooked the one I couldn't set a time on, which was also having interference that made a sound like a barber's cutters.

I actually had SNOW on channel 45. SNOW! Can you believe it? I was debating about whether this was acceptable. No, this was too much snow. And I'm spoiled, having gotten a perfect signal for so long now. There was pixilation too. Both of those cleared up when I moved the box around. The weird thing is the snow was not on channel 48. Also, I got "No Signal" when I first turned to channel 45, even though the two stations share a tower and channel 45 has traditionally done better.

I set the VCR to record "The Simpsons". Not that hard but I had to remember SLP since the tape wouldn't be long enough for more than six episodes.

There's another topic where I mention this, but I hard time getting anything at all. I knew the TV was on channel 4, so I turned to channel 3. Nothing there either, until I went to the scan function. Channel 3 is, of course, the only channel, but I didn't even have to scan. I got the screen where I could add channel 3. On a couple of occasions, though, the TV behaved like it was on channel 2 and I don't know why but I mentioned this on another topic. It's like what happens when channel 3 has a strong signal and there is no channel 2 (this happened to me shortly after the first conversion on Feb. 17; there was still an analog channel 2 but the DTV antenna I have was worthless picking it up). Sort of like a type of impressionist art, but it's an analog type. Once I got this to clear up by simply turning the TV off and turning it on again.

Knowing all this, can anyone guess why I didn't record "The Simpsons" at all when I was at the beach?
 
Answer: it was a new TV/VCR, at least to me. The man put a tape in it to test it but it was his tape. I had to put in my own.

I found this out when it tdidn't tape on Thursday, when I was back home. I checked the time I had set for taping and noticed it said "Eject" on the screen.

Friday I had to tape "Smallville" and I can't get a dependable CW signal except on cable, so I used a VCR to tape it. Ironically, I was taping 'Ugly Betty" with TiVo but couldn't watch it because I wasn't taping a second show. I could have told it to tape "Smallville" once I found out "Brothers" wouldn't be on.

But TiVo behaves strangely with its "Watch live TV" functon. There must be a way to simply watch what I am taping if it's the only thing being taped and the TV is not already on that channel.

The only way to watch "Ugly Betty" all at once, instead of the second half first and the first half on TiVo, was digital. No problems until about the last ten minutes of the first half. Then a car went by, but no big deal. Then it really started acting up. I kept adjustig the converter box and then the antenna wire, and just when I thought it was fixed, here we go again. I was so glad when the commercial break came after "Smallville" and I could go back to cable.

This is a channel I had almost no problems with on the old TV! But moving the converter box so I could move the old TV elsewhere has messed things up. I've never gotten it back to completely normal.

The same thing happened during "America's Funniest Home Videos" and Andy Rooney wasn't even on (I don't think). And there was a football delay anyway. I couldn't back away from the TV because I would get interference. But I would get interference anyway. I think channel 48 is fixed so I can at least tape "The Simpsons". But before, channel 48 had more problems than 45.

The wind could have been partly responsible.
 
I see a market now for cheap, reliable OTA DVR boxes.

Had a trip back home to the UK - the Southeast of England is still on analog and digital, and my gran pretty much watches just ITV 1 or BBC 1 - even though they have a brand new LCD widescreen TV that has a digital tuner. However still some programmes clash and yep, she still videotapes some programmes for later viewing. On the VCR. In analog. In extreme stretch-o-vision because the analog signal is broadcast in 4:3 with black bars, since all programming is 16:9.

I just wish we had "Freeview" over here in the States. HD could wait a bit, sure... but the system over in the UK seems to work a lot better and definitely is a good "cable lite" service.
 
converter box no. 1: I watched six episodes of "The Simpsons" by rewinding. It's a quick way to fiugure out what I have and haven't seen. When I couldn't use the TV I was recording with, it was safer on a tape that was getting messed up, plus the other TV/VCR rewound faster. I had seen all six episodes. Good thing, too, because Friday's were unwatchable. I've never seen such a poor signal that wasn't just completley gone. And it was, three or four times. When rewinding you know it's going to happen when you see the name of the show and the channel at the top of the screen.

Amazingly, Thursday's episodes were perfect. Well, not quite. There was a problem in the middle, but it miraculously cleared up for the last 20 minutes of the second episode. Normally, it would be the other way around. No problems on Wednesday.

I checked the wires, and both the wire from the antenna and the wire to the TV had come loose. Now I suppose the wire to the tV could cause the picture to freeze, but not the stripes or squares. And certainly not "No Signal". The problem wasn't completely solved, though. I still had to fiddle witht he wire coming from the antenna. Amazing that it started out in the perfect position and stayed where it was with no problems for months with that first TV/VCR.

And would you believe this? The channel had fewer problems than the one with "The Simpsons". The time came to tape Andy Rooney and I had to watch "America's Funniest Home Videos" on the digital channel. Becaue I haven't mastered changing channels on the TiVo. "No Signal". This channel had fewer problems than the "Simpsons" channel! It was perfect except for a couple of glitches over a period of months! I fiddled with the wire and no problems whatsoever for the ten minutes remaining in the show. Unlike last week, when I was constantly fiddling with the wire. Remind me who said we would no longer have to stand and hold the antenna a certain way?

Oh, add to that the fact the new TV somehow wandered off channel 3 again and it was like I was on channel 2 with a very strong channel 3. I had to add channel 3 again.

Converter box no.2:

Every night I check it. Last week I turned it on for "Roy's Folks" a few minutes early. I don't know whether it was the weather, but no sound problems whatsoever. Normally when I'm in there, I get squares and stripes from time to time, with the sound usually going out as well.

One night I turn it on and "No Signal". But I remembered from the last time: I couldn't get to the menu so I tried turning the box off and turning it back on, then turning to the correct channel. All is well.

I haven't valled Magnavox again but I doubt they'll take responsibility. They'll just try to blame the stations.

Does that 800 number still work? If all these things keep happening to people, I'm sure they are having problems figuring it out.
 
I thought I would get through a whole week with no problems with converter box no. 1. Then I turned on "Aemrica's Funniest Home Videos" during Andy Rooney. It would do fine for a while and then have problems. I didn't really adjust anything, or at least that didn't help. I don't understand, because this channel had no problems during the time I used the old TV/VCR with the problems. If anything, the channel did better than the one with "The Simpsons". Now it's the other way around. I hope I can fix it, but for now I'll just leave it on the one channel.

Converter box no. 2 had no problems, except it's frustrating when weather or whatever means more signal problems. Amazingly, on Monday when I went in the other room for the specific news report I wanted to see, no problems. There were problems at that time Wednesday and I'll have to see the rest online, partly because they had it earlier. I had left the TV on for 30 minutes just to get the time right, the first time, but they can vary the time, I suppose. The good news is they're keeping the UHF channel!
 
No problems this week.

Actually, once I had to add channel 3 on the TV I just bought.

I also had to back away from the TV to eliminate problems with the end of "America's Funniest Home Videos". That used to not happen on channel 45 and still doesn't on channel 48. They share a tower! And channel 45 used to have fewer problems than 48. But Andy Rooney was delayed anyway.
 
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