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Eagle - Change ?

I realize that its a national playlist. And it works in Jacksonville, but it doesn't work here. So why wouldn't you tweak the playlist, to make it work better here? Again this isn't rocket science and its all about rotations. But if you don't realize that, then here lies the problem.
 
1250WTAE said:
I realize that its a national playlist. And it works in Jacksonville, but it doesn't work here. So why wouldn't you tweak the playlist, to make it work better here? Again this isn't rocket science and its all about rotations. But if you don't realize that, then here lies the problem.
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Give an example of "poor rotation"....
 
lovejamminoldies said:
Rob, valid point.

However! A signal is a signal. Although, it'd be hard to get steady ratings on a signal like that, if you give listeners a reason to listen, they'll listen. For example, if it's Urban, they might have 1029 their #1 preset, but 953 their second for the simple fact that it's an alternative. If I was 953, I wouldn't focus on beating anyone. I'd focus on stealing listeners from somewhere else.

I'd go CHR. Second CHR's are working! Look at KIIS, then look how AMP is making a difference to LA. Similar to Z103 (103.1 in Columbus), HORRIBLE signal, but when they came with Urban, there were people that listened to both 1075 and 1031. The reason it's not urban now, a mexican radio group offered Z 1 mil to sell.

My point is, give Dayton a reason to listen, listeners will listen. If Cox doesn't do it, I'll wait patiently for someone to do it, like I have for years.

I'm waiting for 953 to release another riddle. Make it fun.
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Jammin:

You're historically wrong on one point here. The reason 103.1 in Columbus is not Urban now is that the former owner (Percy Squire) went bankrupt trying to be the #4 Urban station in Columbus (station never got better than a 1.4 share 12 plus and most often was under a 1). The company that took over the station in bankruptcy sold the station to the group which put the spanish format on the air...

So, 103.1 was a flop to begin with listened to by very few in Columbus. I was there. I saw it. I worked for the company for a while, sadly.
 
lovejamminoldies said:
I stand corrected. So, my question is for you, if The Eagle has had such success in numbers, why are we going through a change?
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Use your common sense here - times change, market conditions change, ratings change with market conditions and the time. Many Class A stations have to change something every couple of years.

My point in bringing up the numbers success is to counter your assertion that it's all been a failure. It hasn't been. The station has made money...but change on these smaller stations eventually is inevitable.
 
And Jammin:

It's been fun trading comments with you...and please understand, I'm not trying to be an overt "bully" here. There's times I do agree with things you say. I see a little bit of the younger "me" in some of your comments. Believe me, though we may disagree on some points here and there, there was a time I thought a lot like you think. Where we have disagreements often comes with the fact that I tried something the way you suggest, and know how it worked...or not worked.

A couple of thoughts on Class A stations I'd like you to keep in mind. If you'll accept the fact that signal is 90% of a station's initial keystones to success...remember that there's big differences between a Class A that is urban to the market...vs. a rimshot.

In Columbus, 103.1 tried to go after 107.5. Granted, they had little money for promotion. But they made a lot of mistakes. (Talk shows in midday, airing speeches by the Mayor on the whim of the owner, changing the format to blues at night if a sponsor wanted a blues show). There was no consistency to the station, except for a brief period of time when Percy left it alone. That was the time period you were talking about.
Still...the ratings didn't materialize. Even if they had money to spend, it wouldn't have helped the ratings that much. Why? Signal. They are a rimshot licensed to Johnstown about 15 or so miles from Columbus. It would never have gotten more than a 2.5 at best. They would never have come close to 107.5, whose tower is in Downtown Columbus.

103.9, The X now has a tower in Dayton. Though they are 6K, they have a good signal over Dayton. 94.5...not as good. That's why Z-93 had the upper hand for so long. 94-5 only got close because Radio One spent almost no money at all on Z...and the programming deteriorated over time. If Z had been fully budgeted and well programmed, there's no way 94-5 would have made the inroads. Z would have swatted 94-5 like a Fly. Oops. Poor choice of words there. (LOL)

95-3's a rimshot. Always has been. Always will. That gives it some challenges which have to be dealt with from time to time. That's why the change is happening. What will happen a year from now? I don't know. Stay tuned. But you...and some of the other posters here can't use a "one size fits all" mentality when you're talking programming. There's a big difference between programming a rimshot vs. even so much as a Class A with a tower in the city. The challenges are far less with a stick dead in the middle of town.
 
You know, I have a lot of respect for you. A lot of that I did not know. I'm also not trying to come on here bashing The Eagle. I just think it could do better with a different format. The signal is not as bad as people make it out to be. I'd like for Nick to try something different like RHY/AC. Do you help advise him?
 
My interest is piqued no matter what format they choose.  My earlier comments were guesses and in no way suggestions as to what format i'd do on 95.3. IF they would go CHR they could always call themselves Z-95.3.  
 
One who knows, I'm not ripping you either. And I agree a rimshot could be programmed different. The rotations I speak of are Supertramp, Billy Joel, Queen and a few others coming up at the same time, same hour, same dayparts almost daily. Selector problems?

I look forward to hearing the change after Bubba tomorrow!
 
lovejamminoldies said:
Highly doubt they will. One Who Knows mentioned it would take a big signal. And he works there. Look out for a harder rock format.
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Yeah I agree. I look for a harder rock format to roll out at 10 AM today.
 
15 minutes until the "change".

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they maybe have a contest, change something up a bit... I don't get the riddle.

Have you listened to The Eagle lately?
 
lovejamminoldies said:
Apparently Bubba's not over at 10... weird.
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Bubba's still bitter over TNA Wrestling screwing him out of some wrestling tix for the big "Monday Night Impact" this past Monday and keeps rambling about it. He also has had TNA wrestlers Kurt Angle and Hulk Hogan on this past hour as well. I'm a wrestling fan and all but geez...get to the change!
 
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