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EBC Radio

> This still begs an answer to the question of why EBC would
> want to tranmit an Asian Indian format on a station that is
> far removed from the population that will appreciate it.
> With 243 watts, WWTR does not project a wonderful signal
> into, say, Edison, where there is a substantial Indian
> ethnic population.

But it's much better than 1680 WTTM trying to reach these areas all the way from Princeton!

Still, WKMB has a better signal in the targeted area than WWTR, which means the folks who used to be on 89.3 WCNJ/WDDM will have the upper hand if they end up doing their own South Asian programming on 1070, versus EBC Radio's programming on 1170.

I'm also surprised the EBC Radio folks didn't consider moving to 1530 WJDM, which also has a better signal in the Edison area than WWTR.
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> > There were discussions here and elsewhere a few months
> > back that said that WMTR was doing just great with the
> > oldies format. Part of that claimed success would have
> > to be in Somerset County where there is a prime audience
> > for that type of music. Why would WWTR convert to a
> > music format that appeals to a small segment of the
> > population?
>
> Hopefully because WMTR has bigger and better things planned
> for its Central Jersey listeners... like moving the
> simulcast to 1450 WCTC, or moving the whole station to 105.5
> FM. (They won't be able to call it WMTR-FM, though -- at
> least not until after some negotiations with the owners of
> 96.1 WMTR-FM in Archbold, Ohio.)
>
I said something similar years ago: with the strong Asian/Indian population in the Raritan Area, it would make good financial and programming sense to program WCTC with EBC prgramming; likewise I said the same thing about WXMC in Parsippany: while most of it's signal is aimed at Lake Hopatcong, it can still be heard in Parssippany proper, and WXMC would be an excellent buy for EBC: IIRC it is a spanish format now, and I would think most Hispanics listen to either WADO, or to the big NYC FM's.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > > There were discussions here and elsewhere a few months
> > > back that said that WMTR was doing just great with the
> > > oldies format. Part of that claimed success would have
> > > to be in Somerset County where there is a prime audience
>
> > > for that type of music. Why would WWTR convert to a
> > > music format that appeals to a small segment of the
> > > population?
> >
> > Hopefully because WMTR has bigger and better things
> planned
> > for its Central Jersey listeners... like moving the
> > simulcast to 1450 WCTC, or moving the whole station to
> 105.5
> > FM. (They won't be able to call it WMTR-FM, though -- at
> > least not until after some negotiations with the owners of
>
> > 96.1 WMTR-FM in Archbold, Ohio.)
> >
> I said something similar years ago: with the strong
> Asian/Indian population in the Raritan Area, it would make
> good financial and programming sense to program WCTC with
> EBC prgramming; likewise I said the same thing about WXMC
> in Parsippany: while most of it's signal is aimed at Lake
> Hopatcong, it can still be heard in Parssippany proper, and
> WXMC would be an excellent buy for EBC: IIRC it is a
> spanish format now, and I would think most Hispanics listen
> to either WADO, or to the big NYC FM's.
>

Of the few radio stations in northern and central
New Jersey, WCTC is one that has held on to its
traditional roots. The conversion of WCTC to
Hindi music/talk would anger many people in
Middlesex County who rely on the station for
news, sports, local talk, traffic, etc. It
would be an exceedingly bad move for Greater
Media and EBC.

The population of Morris County is closing in
on one-half million. Of that population, the
census says 6.26 percent are "Asian." That
includes Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Thai,
Cambodian, Pakistani, as well as Indian. Being
generous, let's say that half of the "Asian"
population are Indians. Are there enough businesses
in Morris County serving Asian Indians to support a
broadcast station that squirts most of its signal
toward Denville, Dover, Rockaway, and Jefferson?
I don't think so.
 
Re: WKMB

KMB has authority to operate at 50 watts at night. No one but people in Stirling would here it. 3 miles tops. They have a contruction permitt for 1K not 2500 in the works. 2 tower array. Plain flat they don't have any money to do anything. The best thing thay can do is sell or LMA the place. so the nice series fed antenna can have a new TX driving it with something better then Gospel.

I doubt WKMB could EVER get ANY night power. It has to
> protect 1070 which is a Canadian clear.
>
> If by chance it could get night power, it'd probably have to
> add way too many towers to make it a useable signal.
>
 
Re: WKMB

>
Hi Dave,
1680 is coming your way I here, moving to a new transmitter site near Philly. Hope things are good at 740 $ 1540. As far as WKMB. They do have the permission to operate on 50 watts at night and I tryed to run the CCA down to that level but it's in such bad shape it's a miricle it works at 275 watts which is what it's doing. They never had a ATU and the tower was fed with RS Tandy CB coax when I took the CE job last year. Well I corrected that and built them a ATU with my friend John who's an ace at that stuff. I replaced all the tubes and bad relays and a burnt out RF choke and resistor and tuned the beast to max Po. Base current is now 5 amps. Half of the tower has broken ground radials due to the ground settling. which in theory is making it somewhat directional. Charlie Heck purposed them a DA pattern to the north nulling them towards New Brunswick and Edison at 1KW. I have a copy of the DA pattern. They would need another tower, ATU's, ground system and a phasor. Do you know how much this would cost? I told them to forget it. Your looking easy more then they paid for the station. They can't even afford a new transmitter which is only $7K for a 500/250 watt. I had all the plans to build them a nice transmitter site new building etc. and they go an buy a board instead of a transmitter. That pissed me off big time. The problem with radio station owners today is that they forget that the transmitter is the station the studio is just an office with mixing consoles and computers that are of no value if you don't have a good working transmitter and plant. I had that thing sounding real nice until the day came when I pulled the plug on them until they payed me. I was working for nothing and getting no money after tutning in invoice after invoice. It was like a western movie. They kept calling me, we are off the air..starting at 6:30 in the morning. I did't answer them till 1PM.
I let them suffer. Alot of engineers in this businees are suckers and work for nothing and are not appreciated at all,it's a shame. I'm happy today I work for a company that does appreciate enginners and believes on having an engineer they can rely on instead of a contract one. So to finish the story it was like a hold up when I answered the phone at 1PM I said oh your off the air, well you tell xxxx you owe me $$$$$$ and I want it in cash today by 3PM or you will be off the air till tomorrow. So I went to the station, cops and all were there. I told them it's plain and simple officers if you don't pay your electric bill what happens your electric is cut off right. Oh it got intense after that and too much to go into. I could write a book om my 30 years in the business. Any way I got my money in cash in a envelope turned in my keys turned them back on to find out they messed up the audio chain. I said your problem now. Poor Stu Engelke from WMCA/WWDJ is there contract engineer now.

I had heard that WKMB did have night authority of 50 watts,
> but it wasn't being used. Tony Dee, can you clarify?
>
>
> Dave Gardiner
>
> WVCH 740 Chester/Philadelphia
>
> New World Radio 1540 WNWR Philadelphia
>
 
Re: WKMB

Tony, Ouch on the KMB situation. I'd love to see what the pattern would look like at 1kW. Let's not hope they piss Stu off. Just a case of someone trying to run a place on almost nothing, with priorities wrong. I would have spent the money on the Armstrong X1000B first off and gotten that end in shape. Then worked on the studios. 1680 has a CP to move to Lindenwold NJ; pundits say it'll change format with the move. The Indian programming is reported to go to WWTR 1170. WVCH keeps going in spite of how it's put together; it's a shame the 50 kW CP expired. I just joined WNWR and am drooling at how the place is set up.Ethnic format or no, that place has excellent gear and it's kept up well. The 1540 tower site is being reworked as well with new top-loading hats and guy wires,along with a DX-50. Sweet!

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540
 
Why limit the possibilities to FM?

Could we see this format on FM?


> > > There were discussions here and elsewhere a few months
> > > back that said that WMTR was doing just great with the
> > > oldies format. Part of that claimed success would have
> > > to be in Somerset County where there is a prime audience
>
> > > for that type of music. Why would WWTR convert to a
> > > music format that appeals to a small segment of the
> > > population?
> >
> > Hopefully because WMTR has bigger and better things
> planned
> > for its Central Jersey listeners... like moving the
> > simulcast to 1450 WCTC, or moving the whole station to
> 105.5
> > FM. (They won't be able to call it WMTR-FM, though -- at
> > least not until after some negotiations with the owners of
>
> > 96.1 WMTR-FM in Archbold, Ohio.)
> >
> I said something similar years ago: with the strong
> Asian/Indian population in the Raritan Area, it would make
> good financial and programming sense to program WCTC with
> EBC prgramming; likewise I said the same thing about WXMC
> in Parsippany: while most of it's signal is aimed at Lake
> Hopatcong, it can still be heard in Parssippany proper, and
> WXMC would be an excellent buy for EBC: IIRC it is a
> spanish format now, and I would think most Hispanics listen
> to either WADO, or to the big NYC FM's.
>
 
Re: WKMB

I would NEVER EVER use an X1000B.. ever. Leave me an email Dave and I'll send you a nnote, telling you why.
 
Re: Why limit the possibilities to FM?

> Could we see this format on FM?

It was on FM -- on 89.3 WCNJ/WDDM in Hazlet. The EBC Radio folks were originally on WCNJ, then they moved off to 1680 WTTM. Meanwhile, a few people stayed behind at WCNJ (later renamed WDDM "Dhoom FM") and continued running their own Indian music format, which lasted until about a month ago.

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Re: WKMB

We were thinnking about using one at WVCH and pushing our Gates One back to aux use.Why IS the X1000 a bad choice ? Email me at [email protected].


Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540
 
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