Of the top 10 songs in rotation at Energy AZ, 2 are dance songs. In fact, reading the entire playlist, I'd say at least 50% of the music isn't classified as dance music.
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Energy Arizona: Another one bites the dust?
- Thread starter Renegade_X
- Start date
M
Metro
Guest
> Of the top 10 songs in rotation at Energy AZ, 2 are dance
> songs.
And the remaining 8 are dance versions of the titles listed. I know - I listen locally everyday.
> In fact, reading the entire playlist, I'd say at
> least 50% of the music isn't classified as dance music.
Then you must be looking at a different playlist - the one that I'm eye-balling right now is pretty much all dance music.
- M<P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
> songs.
And the remaining 8 are dance versions of the titles listed. I know - I listen locally everyday.
> In fact, reading the entire playlist, I'd say at
> least 50% of the music isn't classified as dance music.
Then you must be looking at a different playlist - the one that I'm eye-balling right now is pretty much all dance music.
- M<P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
I count 17 songs on this list that mainstays in other formats. In the top 10, Shape UK and IVD are dance. The remainder are urban/pop/UK britpop. They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.
So whats that say?
29 50 Rihanna/Pon De Replay
50 50 Shape: UK/Back To Basics (Radio Edit) (Astralwerks)
51 50 Ian Van Dahl/Inspiration (Radio Edit) (Robbins)
27 50 Natasha Bedingfield/These Words
49 49 Shakira/La Tortura
50 49 BLACK EYED PEAS/DON'T MESS WITH MY HEART
49 48 Kelly Clarkson/Behind These Hazel Eyes
50 48 Missy Elliot/Lose Control (Johnny Budz Remix)
49 30 The (BLEEP) Cat Dolls/Don't Cha (Ralphi Rosario Remix)
18 29 The Gorillaz/Feels Good Inc.
20 20 Destiny's Child/Cater 2 U (J. Beck Mix)
18 20 Deep Dish/Say Hello
15 20 Jenna Drey/Killin Me
18 20 Paris Avenue/I Want You More
20 20 Coldplay/Speed of Sound (Steve Porter Mix)
20 20 Ciara/Oh (Lenny B Xmix Version)
20 20 Cabin Crew/Star to Fall
20 19 Nine Inch Nails/The Hand That Feeds (Ultimix Edit)
20 19 Backstreet Boys/Incomplete
17 19 Lola/No Strings
21 19 Crazy Frog/Axel F
21 18 Jessica Simpson/These Boots Are Made For Walking (Perry's Mix)
14 18 Garbage/Bleed Like Me (Eric Kupper Mix)
4 14 Ricky Martin/I Don't Care (Michael Angelo Radio Edit
4 13 Lucas Prata/And She Said
14 13 DJ Sammy/Why
14 13 Groove Coverage/Poison
14 13 Black Rock/Blue Water
13 13 Armin Van Buuren/Shivers
12 13 Body Rockers/I like the way
12 13 Faith Evans/Mesmererized (Freemasons Radio Edit)
12 13 Juliet/Ride The Pain
4 12 Murk/Doesn't Really Matter (Murk Radio Edit)
13 12 Stonebridge/Take Me Away
>
So whats that say?
29 50 Rihanna/Pon De Replay
50 50 Shape: UK/Back To Basics (Radio Edit) (Astralwerks)
51 50 Ian Van Dahl/Inspiration (Radio Edit) (Robbins)
27 50 Natasha Bedingfield/These Words
49 49 Shakira/La Tortura
50 49 BLACK EYED PEAS/DON'T MESS WITH MY HEART
49 48 Kelly Clarkson/Behind These Hazel Eyes
50 48 Missy Elliot/Lose Control (Johnny Budz Remix)
49 30 The (BLEEP) Cat Dolls/Don't Cha (Ralphi Rosario Remix)
18 29 The Gorillaz/Feels Good Inc.
20 20 Destiny's Child/Cater 2 U (J. Beck Mix)
18 20 Deep Dish/Say Hello
15 20 Jenna Drey/Killin Me
18 20 Paris Avenue/I Want You More
20 20 Coldplay/Speed of Sound (Steve Porter Mix)
20 20 Ciara/Oh (Lenny B Xmix Version)
20 20 Cabin Crew/Star to Fall
20 19 Nine Inch Nails/The Hand That Feeds (Ultimix Edit)
20 19 Backstreet Boys/Incomplete
17 19 Lola/No Strings
21 19 Crazy Frog/Axel F
21 18 Jessica Simpson/These Boots Are Made For Walking (Perry's Mix)
14 18 Garbage/Bleed Like Me (Eric Kupper Mix)
4 14 Ricky Martin/I Don't Care (Michael Angelo Radio Edit
4 13 Lucas Prata/And She Said
14 13 DJ Sammy/Why
14 13 Groove Coverage/Poison
14 13 Black Rock/Blue Water
13 13 Armin Van Buuren/Shivers
12 13 Body Rockers/I like the way
12 13 Faith Evans/Mesmererized (Freemasons Radio Edit)
12 13 Juliet/Ride The Pain
4 12 Murk/Doesn't Really Matter (Murk Radio Edit)
13 12 Stonebridge/Take Me Away
>
R
russhaney
Guest
They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.
I count 32... not sure about the shakira song because i havent heard it yet. I mean if you really want to get technical.. why not say that Hip Hop and Alt. Rock Songs should NOT be allowed on a CHR? This is what you are are trying to say.<P ID="signature">______________
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I count 32... not sure about the shakira song because i havent heard it yet. I mean if you really want to get technical.. why not say that Hip Hop and Alt. Rock Songs should NOT be allowed on a CHR? This is what you are are trying to say.<P ID="signature">______________
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M
midwestclubber
Guest
> I count 17 songs on this list that mainstays in other
> formats. In the top 10, Shape UK and IVD are dance. The
> remainder are urban/pop/UK britpop. They may be remixes,
> but they are not dance songs.
>
> So whats that say?
>
>
> 29 50 Rihanna/Pon De Replay
>
> 50 50 Shape: UK/Back To Basics (Radio Edit)
> (Astralwerks)
> 51 50 Ian Van Dahl/Inspiration (Radio Edit) (Robbins)
>
> 27 50 Natasha Bedingfield/These Words
>
> 49 49 Shakira/La Tortura
> 50 49 BLACK EYED PEAS/DON'T MESS WITH MY HEART
>
> 49 48 Kelly Clarkson/Behind These Hazel Eyes
>
> 50 48 Missy Elliot/Lose Control (Johnny Budz Remix)
>
> 49 30 The (BLEEP) Cat Dolls/Don't Cha (Ralphi Rosario
> Remix)
> 18 29 The Gorillaz/Feels Good Inc.
>
> 20 20 Destiny's Child/Cater 2 U (J. Beck Mix)
>
> 18 20 Deep Dish/Say Hello
>
> 15 20 Jenna Drey/Killin Me
>
> 18 20 Paris Avenue/I Want You More
>
> 20 20 Coldplay/Speed of Sound (Steve Porter Mix)
>
> 20 20 Ciara/Oh (Lenny B Xmix Version)
>
> 20 20 Cabin Crew/Star to Fall
>
> 20 19 Nine Inch Nails/The Hand That Feeds (Ultimix
> Edit)
> 20 19 Backstreet Boys/Incomplete
>
> 17 19 Lola/No Strings
>
> 21 19 Crazy Frog/Axel F
>
> 21 18 Jessica Simpson/These Boots Are Made For Walking
> (Perry's Mix)
> 14 18 Garbage/Bleed Like Me (Eric Kupper Mix)
>
> 4 14 Ricky Martin/I Don't Care (Michael Angelo Radio
> Edit
> 4 13 Lucas Prata/And She Said
>
> 14 13 DJ Sammy/Why
>
> 14 13 Groove Coverage/Poison
>
> 14 13 Black Rock/Blue Water
>
> 13 13 Armin Van Buuren/Shivers
>
> 12 13 Body Rockers/I like the way
>
> 12 13 Faith Evans/Mesmererized (Freemasons Radio Edit)
>
> 12 13 Juliet/Ride The Pain
>
> 4 12 Murk/Doesn't Really Matter (Murk Radio Edit)
>
> 13 12 Stonebridge/Take Me Away
>
>
> >
>
I cant beleive they are Playing Songs from rock artists, like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage, I give em props for trying something different. I mean, honestly, how much longer can Pure dance work in Phoenix, in case you havent noticed, KNRJ is still in the red, with little or no Phoenix ratings. When stations dont make money, they change formats, or tweak things up a bit. Honestly, I am surprised they are still Dance, but really, what else can they do, they cant lean on classics, because of Sister station MEGA, they cant go Hip Hop on that signal either. I dont think 101.1 will ever make money, untill they quit pretending to be in Phoenix, As you see, Phoenix doesnt really have a local Dance station,,,,But Payton Does...lol,,How many dance fans live there? Again, No offense to anyone who HAS or DOES Work there. I do beleive, that KNRJ could get ratings, on another frequency,,,,Lets say Energy 92.3..lol..or Energy 104.7, but 101.1 is 70 freakin miles away, and 92.7 overshoots most of the city, its too high up, and too close to Hi Powered Stations, for such low power, that 92.7 stick needs to be on top of a Downtown Building
> formats. In the top 10, Shape UK and IVD are dance. The
> remainder are urban/pop/UK britpop. They may be remixes,
> but they are not dance songs.
>
> So whats that say?
>
>
> 29 50 Rihanna/Pon De Replay
>
> 50 50 Shape: UK/Back To Basics (Radio Edit)
> (Astralwerks)
> 51 50 Ian Van Dahl/Inspiration (Radio Edit) (Robbins)
>
> 27 50 Natasha Bedingfield/These Words
>
> 49 49 Shakira/La Tortura
> 50 49 BLACK EYED PEAS/DON'T MESS WITH MY HEART
>
> 49 48 Kelly Clarkson/Behind These Hazel Eyes
>
> 50 48 Missy Elliot/Lose Control (Johnny Budz Remix)
>
> 49 30 The (BLEEP) Cat Dolls/Don't Cha (Ralphi Rosario
> Remix)
> 18 29 The Gorillaz/Feels Good Inc.
>
> 20 20 Destiny's Child/Cater 2 U (J. Beck Mix)
>
> 18 20 Deep Dish/Say Hello
>
> 15 20 Jenna Drey/Killin Me
>
> 18 20 Paris Avenue/I Want You More
>
> 20 20 Coldplay/Speed of Sound (Steve Porter Mix)
>
> 20 20 Ciara/Oh (Lenny B Xmix Version)
>
> 20 20 Cabin Crew/Star to Fall
>
> 20 19 Nine Inch Nails/The Hand That Feeds (Ultimix
> Edit)
> 20 19 Backstreet Boys/Incomplete
>
> 17 19 Lola/No Strings
>
> 21 19 Crazy Frog/Axel F
>
> 21 18 Jessica Simpson/These Boots Are Made For Walking
> (Perry's Mix)
> 14 18 Garbage/Bleed Like Me (Eric Kupper Mix)
>
> 4 14 Ricky Martin/I Don't Care (Michael Angelo Radio
> Edit
> 4 13 Lucas Prata/And She Said
>
> 14 13 DJ Sammy/Why
>
> 14 13 Groove Coverage/Poison
>
> 14 13 Black Rock/Blue Water
>
> 13 13 Armin Van Buuren/Shivers
>
> 12 13 Body Rockers/I like the way
>
> 12 13 Faith Evans/Mesmererized (Freemasons Radio Edit)
>
> 12 13 Juliet/Ride The Pain
>
> 4 12 Murk/Doesn't Really Matter (Murk Radio Edit)
>
> 13 12 Stonebridge/Take Me Away
>
>
> >
>
I cant beleive they are Playing Songs from rock artists, like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage, I give em props for trying something different. I mean, honestly, how much longer can Pure dance work in Phoenix, in case you havent noticed, KNRJ is still in the red, with little or no Phoenix ratings. When stations dont make money, they change formats, or tweak things up a bit. Honestly, I am surprised they are still Dance, but really, what else can they do, they cant lean on classics, because of Sister station MEGA, they cant go Hip Hop on that signal either. I dont think 101.1 will ever make money, untill they quit pretending to be in Phoenix, As you see, Phoenix doesnt really have a local Dance station,,,,But Payton Does...lol,,How many dance fans live there? Again, No offense to anyone who HAS or DOES Work there. I do beleive, that KNRJ could get ratings, on another frequency,,,,Lets say Energy 92.3..lol..or Energy 104.7, but 101.1 is 70 freakin miles away, and 92.7 overshoots most of the city, its too high up, and too close to Hi Powered Stations, for such low power, that 92.7 stick needs to be on top of a Downtown Building
R
rdalton
Guest
> I cant beleive they are Playing Songs from rock artists,
> like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage,
Rock? I suppose they have rock edges to them.
FWIW, the first record I spun in a club setting was by Nine Inch Nails-- not anywhere near a rock song. Club hit at the time.<P ID="signature">______________
http://www.RichardJDalton.com</P>
> like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage,
Rock? I suppose they have rock edges to them.
FWIW, the first record I spun in a club setting was by Nine Inch Nails-- not anywhere near a rock song. Club hit at the time.<P ID="signature">______________
http://www.RichardJDalton.com</P>
No I'm not saying that. Where did I say that? If Energy aspires to be a dance station, why is it that over half their playlist are songs from other formats? Would an Alternative Rock station do such a thing? Would they find a remix of Celine Dion that sounded like Alt Rock? Would Urban radio play a hiphop version of Coldplay? No, they would not. Would Hot AC play a "lite" version of Metallica? No
It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your material is music from other genre's that's been remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough original material of quality.
They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.
>
> I count 32... not sure about the shakira song because i
> havent heard it yet. I mean if you really want to get
> technical.. why not say that Hip Hop and Alt. Rock Songs
> should NOT be allowed on a CHR? This is what you are are
> trying to say.
>
It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your material is music from other genre's that's been remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough original material of quality.
They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.
>
> I count 32... not sure about the shakira song because i
> havent heard it yet. I mean if you really want to get
> technical.. why not say that Hip Hop and Alt. Rock Songs
> should NOT be allowed on a CHR? This is what you are are
> trying to say.
>
NiN isn't rock? Surely you're kidding. Nearly every alternative rock station in the United States had NIN in heavy rotation.
> > I cant beleive they are Playing Songs from rock artists,
> > like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage,
>
> Rock? I suppose they have rock edges to them.
>
> FWIW, the first record I spun in a club setting was by Nine
> Inch Nails-- not anywhere near a rock song. Club hit at the
> time.
>
> > I cant beleive they are Playing Songs from rock artists,
> > like Nine inch Nails, and Garbage,
>
> Rock? I suppose they have rock edges to them.
>
> FWIW, the first record I spun in a club setting was by Nine
> Inch Nails-- not anywhere near a rock song. Club hit at the
> time.
>
R
russhaney
Guest
> No I'm not saying that. Where did I say that? If Energy
> aspires to be a dance station, why is it that over half
> their playlist are songs from other formats? Would an
> Alternative Rock station do such a thing? Would they find a
> remix of Celine Dion that sounded like Alt Rock? Would
> Urban radio play a hiphop version of Coldplay? No, they
> would not. Would Hot AC play a "lite" version of Metallica?
> No
>
> It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio
> friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half
> your material is music from other genre's that's been
> remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is.
> Not enough original material of quality.
>
Dance music is Dance music no matter if its pop, rock, or rap remix... thats why they are called remixes. Dance is the only format that can have remixes like a celine dion song.. and make it sound good... Why would anybody want to hear a rock version of a celine Dion song?.. or why would anyone want a Metallica lite song? You examples make no sense.
why is it that over half their playlist are songs from other formats?
So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance, and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance remixes?
<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
> aspires to be a dance station, why is it that over half
> their playlist are songs from other formats? Would an
> Alternative Rock station do such a thing? Would they find a
> remix of Celine Dion that sounded like Alt Rock? Would
> Urban radio play a hiphop version of Coldplay? No, they
> would not. Would Hot AC play a "lite" version of Metallica?
> No
>
> It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio
> friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half
> your material is music from other genre's that's been
> remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is.
> Not enough original material of quality.
>
Dance music is Dance music no matter if its pop, rock, or rap remix... thats why they are called remixes. Dance is the only format that can have remixes like a celine dion song.. and make it sound good... Why would anybody want to hear a rock version of a celine Dion song?.. or why would anyone want a Metallica lite song? You examples make no sense.
why is it that over half their playlist are songs from other formats?
So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance, and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance remixes?
<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
M
Metro
Guest
> NiN isn't rock?
It surely is in many respects, but God forbid the fact that some us don't pigeon-hole every record released into a single category.
It's the atypical sound of records like "The Hand That Feeds" that makes stations like KNRJ refreshing to listen to at times. Ditto that on the Gorillaz record they're playing also - breaking the chain of typical 4/4 club stompers many dance stations play is by no means a bad thing (to my ears at least).
- M<P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
It surely is in many respects, but God forbid the fact that some us don't pigeon-hole every record released into a single category.
It's the atypical sound of records like "The Hand That Feeds" that makes stations like KNRJ refreshing to listen to at times. Ditto that on the Gorillaz record they're playing also - breaking the chain of typical 4/4 club stompers many dance stations play is by no means a bad thing (to my ears at least).
- M<P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
M
Metro
Guest
> So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance,
> and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance
> remixes?
Well put Russ.
- M <P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
> and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance
> remixes?
Well put Russ.
- M <P ID="signature">______________
Marcus McBride
Supermixx/XM
Select Mix</P>
M
Metro
Guest
> The remainder are urban/pop/UK britpop. They may be remixes,
> but they are not dance songs.
Neither was Res' "They Say Vision", a remix of which is one of your personal favorites I believe.
What's your point here? Dance stations shouldn't play dance remixes of non-dance records?
> So whats that say?
That KNRJ, like nearly every other FM dance station in the US past and present, has played a mix of pure dance music, remixed versions of non-dance songs, and other genres at one point or another. They're hardly unique in doing so.
- M
> but they are not dance songs.
Neither was Res' "They Say Vision", a remix of which is one of your personal favorites I believe.
What's your point here? Dance stations shouldn't play dance remixes of non-dance records?
> So whats that say?
That KNRJ, like nearly every other FM dance station in the US past and present, has played a mix of pure dance music, remixed versions of non-dance songs, and other genres at one point or another. They're hardly unique in doing so.
- M
I live in Phoenix and listen to KNRJ every day. I'm absolutely thrilled that they're playing these so-called "non-dance" songs. Gorillaz, Rihanna, Missy Elliot, etc. provide an element of familiarity that is largely missing otherwise, and they certainly provide some much-needed variety.
>> They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.<<
So what? Where does it say that Energy (or any "dance station") has to play only what you call "dance songs"? What's wrong with playing "danceable" songs? (I don't know if "danceable" is actually a word, but I'm assuming you get the point.)
>>It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your material is music from other genre's that's been remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough original material of quality. <<
That may be so, but I don't understand why playing this material is a bad strategy for Energy to be taking. Energy's goal is to achieve ratings and ad sales...not to play only "dance songs". As I said above, these selections are a lot more familiar to the masses than the "dance songs". Perhaps having these songs in rotation will lead to fewer people scanning past the station...
>> They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.<<
So what? Where does it say that Energy (or any "dance station") has to play only what you call "dance songs"? What's wrong with playing "danceable" songs? (I don't know if "danceable" is actually a word, but I'm assuming you get the point.)
>>It's just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your material is music from other genre's that's been remixed, that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough original material of quality. <<
That may be so, but I don't understand why playing this material is a bad strategy for Energy to be taking. Energy's goal is to achieve ratings and ad sales...not to play only "dance songs". As I said above, these selections are a lot more familiar to the masses than the "dance songs". Perhaps having these songs in rotation will lead to fewer people scanning past the station...
We need to rename this board...
to the bitch and moan board.. Are you kidding me? This board has gone down the toilet. How many dance stations do we have on the air? Well lets see I can count them on my hand. Be thankful there is an Energy in anywhere. I would jump for joy for a station like that in Philly. Sorry Kris I cant get you on the dial up here unless I go on the net.
Here is a little radio 101 for those that dont understand commercial radio.
Radio stations are in the business to make money. This means they have to go after the masses. Which means they cant pigeonhole themselves. Playing remixes of popular rock, and hip hop songs will help get the masses to listen to your station. For the 5% of you out there that are think this is a bad thing there are a few avenues you can turn to. Internet radio, satellite radio, music choice, AOL, buy a cd or spend every waking moment at the club.
You keep up bringing signal strength into the mix. How can WMPH which is a small 100 watt high school radio station and my old station WDBK a 100 watt college radio station get ratings? My station we were out and about every day of the week and even having concerts(which were always sold out). Hell I could get on the mic and say we were going to Checkers and the parking lot would be full because we said we were there.
I dont live in Phoenix so I can answer the question but how is their promotion?
That will make or break a station. Thats all KTU does. Promote Promote Promote. I know one thing if I was Energy I would be on ASU's campus every day
to the bitch and moan board.. Are you kidding me? This board has gone down the toilet. How many dance stations do we have on the air? Well lets see I can count them on my hand. Be thankful there is an Energy in anywhere. I would jump for joy for a station like that in Philly. Sorry Kris I cant get you on the dial up here unless I go on the net.
Here is a little radio 101 for those that dont understand commercial radio.
Radio stations are in the business to make money. This means they have to go after the masses. Which means they cant pigeonhole themselves. Playing remixes of popular rock, and hip hop songs will help get the masses to listen to your station. For the 5% of you out there that are think this is a bad thing there are a few avenues you can turn to. Internet radio, satellite radio, music choice, AOL, buy a cd or spend every waking moment at the club.
You keep up bringing signal strength into the mix. How can WMPH which is a small 100 watt high school radio station and my old station WDBK a 100 watt college radio station get ratings? My station we were out and about every day of the week and even having concerts(which were always sold out). Hell I could get on the mic and say we were going to Checkers and the parking lot would be full because we said we were there.
I dont live in Phoenix so I can answer the question but how is their promotion?
That will make or break a station. Thats all KTU does. Promote Promote Promote. I know one thing if I was Energy I would be on ASU's campus every day
L
liam808
Guest
> > So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance,
> > and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock
> dance
> > remixes?
>
> Well put Russ.
>
> - M
>
I can't remember a good thing said out of Renegade's typing regarding Energy Arizona since MikeO left (rolls eyes).
I love dance music. I also like other genres. I have to believe that I'm not alone in that feeling.
Interesting direction EA.
> > and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock
> dance
> > remixes?
>
> Well put Russ.
>
> - M
>
I can't remember a good thing said out of Renegade's typing regarding Energy Arizona since MikeO left (rolls eyes).
I love dance music. I also like other genres. I have to believe that I'm not alone in that feeling.
Interesting direction EA.
Apparently reading and interpretation isn't the strongpoint of this forum. Please read what I wrote. Reflect on it. Where did I say playing this music was a bad thing. If you scroll way back, you'll see that I've regularily said that a good mix of dance & pop music makes sense to help bring dance in the mainstream again.
I live in Phoenix and listen to KNRJ every day. I'm
> absolutely thrilled that they're playing these so-called
> "non-dance" songs. Gorillaz, Rihanna, Missy Elliot, etc.
> provide an element of familiarity that is largely missing
> otherwise, and they certainly provide some much-needed
> variety.
>
> >> They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.>It's
> just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio
> friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your
> material is music from other genre's that's been remixed,
> that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough
> original material of quality.
>
I live in Phoenix and listen to KNRJ every day. I'm
> absolutely thrilled that they're playing these so-called
> "non-dance" songs. Gorillaz, Rihanna, Missy Elliot, etc.
> provide an element of familiarity that is largely missing
> otherwise, and they certainly provide some much-needed
> variety.
>
> >> They may be remixes, but they are not dance songs.>It's
> just another indication of the lack of ORIGINAL radio
> friendly dance material that are not remixes. When half your
> material is music from other genre's that's been remixed,
> that clearly points out what the real issue is. Not enough
> original material of quality.
>
CHR. Contemporary Hit Radio. Think about it. CHR has traditionally played a cross section of the most popular types of popular music. It is not a niche format, but a wide format
Dance is a niche format. As a programmer for an Net radio station, I would hope you have the ability to understand the difference.
> >
>
> Dance music is Dance music no matter if its pop, rock, or
> rap remix... thats why they are called remixes. Dance is the
> only format that can have remixes like a celine dion song..
> and make it sound good... Why would anybody want to hear a
> rock version of a celine Dion song?.. or why would anyone
> want a Metallica lite song? You examples make no sense.
>
> why is it that over half their playlist are songs from other
> formats?
>
> So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance,
> and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance
> remixes?
>
Dance is a niche format. As a programmer for an Net radio station, I would hope you have the ability to understand the difference.
> >
>
> Dance music is Dance music no matter if its pop, rock, or
> rap remix... thats why they are called remixes. Dance is the
> only format that can have remixes like a celine dion song..
> and make it sound good... Why would anybody want to hear a
> rock version of a celine Dion song?.. or why would anyone
> want a Metallica lite song? You examples make no sense.
>
> why is it that over half their playlist are songs from other
> formats?
>
> So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some Dance,
> and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock dance
> remixes?
>
Liam. Please scroll back and read the countless posts where I've rambled on and on about how I think it's in the BEST interest of dance music to get played in the mix. Not on radio stuck in the dance niche.
I have also NOT slammed EA, but slammed those that blame Mr Oaks for the lousy ratings. For the record, please consult that latest numbers of the station.
I like the idea myself, but I think it's very reflective of the fact...there just isn't enough radio friendly product to build a profitable dance station.
> So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some
> Dance,
> > > and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock
> > dance
> > > remixes?
> >
> > Well put Russ.
> >
> > - M
> >
> I can't remember a good thing said out of Renegade's typing
> regarding Energy Arizona since MikeO left (rolls eyes).
>
> I love dance music. I also like other genres. I have to
> believe that I'm not alone in that feeling.
>
> Interesting direction EA.
>
I have also NOT slammed EA, but slammed those that blame Mr Oaks for the lousy ratings. For the record, please consult that latest numbers of the station.
I like the idea myself, but I think it's very reflective of the fact...there just isn't enough radio friendly product to build a profitable dance station.
> So, its ok for a CHR Pop station to play Rap, some
> Dance,
> > > and Rock... but a Dance station cant play Rap or Rock
> > dance
> > > remixes?
> >
> > Well put Russ.
> >
> > - M
> >
> I can't remember a good thing said out of Renegade's typing
> regarding Energy Arizona since MikeO left (rolls eyes).
>
> I love dance music. I also like other genres. I have to
> believe that I'm not alone in that feeling.
>
> Interesting direction EA.
>
> Apparently reading and interpretation isn't the strongpoint
> of this forum. Please read what I wrote. Reflect on it.
> Where did I say playing this music was a bad thing. If you
> scroll way back, you'll see that I've regularily said that a
> good mix of dance & pop music makes sense to help bring
> dance in the mainstream again.
Fair enough. I think the implication of your first message in this thread is that Energy's inclusion of songs that aren't strictly "dance" in their original form means that it isn't a "dance" station. I interpreted that as a criticism of Energy.
> of this forum. Please read what I wrote. Reflect on it.
> Where did I say playing this music was a bad thing. If you
> scroll way back, you'll see that I've regularily said that a
> good mix of dance & pop music makes sense to help bring
> dance in the mainstream again.
Fair enough. I think the implication of your first message in this thread is that Energy's inclusion of songs that aren't strictly "dance" in their original form means that it isn't a "dance" station. I interpreted that as a criticism of Energy.
Re: We need to rename this board...
Energy isn't perfect but I'm very thankful for it. Same for sister station Mega 104.3/99.3. We also have a "Jack" type station called "The Peak" that, in my opinion, is much better than the actual "Jack" stations, primarily because it's more than a jukebox. There's also the very interesting Modern Rocker KEDJ, a station which prides itself on being independently owned. We also have what is probably one of the best Oldies stations remaining in the country -- KOOL 94.5.
I know that we have it very good here compared to other markets.
Energy isn't perfect but I'm very thankful for it. Same for sister station Mega 104.3/99.3. We also have a "Jack" type station called "The Peak" that, in my opinion, is much better than the actual "Jack" stations, primarily because it's more than a jukebox. There's also the very interesting Modern Rocker KEDJ, a station which prides itself on being independently owned. We also have what is probably one of the best Oldies stations remaining in the country -- KOOL 94.5.
I know that we have it very good here compared to other markets.
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