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Um, no one is FORCING you to donate...
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English Nick in serious accident!
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Um, no one is FORCING you to donate...
"I wonder how much money each month he spent at the 10 High? Probably enough for health insurance."
His tab there is probably comped, ********.
His tab there is probably comped, ********.
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grmf said:
Call Neal Boortz and bitch to him about it, then. You have to pay taxes in this country. Boo freakin' hoo.
Pokeraddict said:
Sadly; the overwhelming majority of Georgians just carry 'Tag Insurance' and the coverage minimums are ridiculously low.
$15K/30K will barely cover the ER costs for a traumatic accident. 250K/500K costs about double but most folks won't spend the money thinking it will never happen to them. Hindsight is always 20/20!People that are choosing to use this forum to indict Nick or make personal judgement calls about him is rather poor form, in my opinion. There have been more than a few occasions in my life where people have fallen on hard times in their life i.e. no insurance, house burns down, stolen car, house broken into, accident that prevents tem from working, etc.. Granted, not having insurance was a bad decision, but we all make bad decisions every day albiet some not as costly as others. It is often in times like these that people who are your friends or colleagues will rally around and help you, should they so choose. If you elect not to help, then fine, but it's pretty crappy to snipe about the guy and the situation when you really don't know them personally or the situation they were in.
If you really want to turn this into a a quasi-political discussion about costs being passed on to taxpayers, you really shouldn't cherry pick your numbers. I know that a large chunk of the posters here are conservative, so, if you want to use this forum to get on your soapbox about how much uninsured Americans (47 million of them) are costing all of us in tax dollars, then I have a few other numbers for you that so many people choose to ignore.
Total cost of health care for uninsured Americans assumed by local, state and federal governments: $35 billion
Most recent spending bill signed by the President containing 8,993 earmarks (state and federal pork barrel projects) including $700,000 for a bike trail in Minneapolis - $65 billion
The Iraq War - $497 billion (and counting)
And this is my personal favorite - Interest payments last year on the $9.1 trillion National Debt to Treasury Bond holders, Treasury Note holders, and foreign lenders (i.e. other countries we've borrowed money from) - $406 billion
So, just those 3 items equal roughly $1 trillion in taxpayer money spent against the $35 billion spent on uninsured health care people always like to complain about. Oh, and just to head this comment off at the pass, I'm sure someone will want to chime in about welfare. That number was $400 billion, but it includes not only traditional welfare payments, but also education (federal student loans and Pell Grants), monies set aside for medical and scientific research and development, and transporation and infrastructure.
So, the $35 million seems a bit smaller, doesn't it...
Oh, and if you really wanted to get nitpicky and look at just the pure waste. There was a loss item in the most recent Financial Report of the United States Governement issued by the Department of the Treasury citing these little gems:
Unused commercial airline tickets purchased by the Department of Defense in which the never sought the refund - $100 million
Overpayments from the IRS to people recieving the Earned Income Tax Credit - $9 billion.
And, another favorite, a line item for "Unreconciled Transactions", in other words, the "we don't know where the money went, but it isn't there" item - $25 billion
Anywho, my point is, if you have stong feelings about where your money is going, there are much bigger issues than kicking in $20 to help out a guy who sounds like he a pretty good dude and has, even though it was through possible bad decision making, has had a tragic life event.
But what do I know....
If you really want to turn this into a a quasi-political discussion about costs being passed on to taxpayers, you really shouldn't cherry pick your numbers. I know that a large chunk of the posters here are conservative, so, if you want to use this forum to get on your soapbox about how much uninsured Americans (47 million of them) are costing all of us in tax dollars, then I have a few other numbers for you that so many people choose to ignore.
Total cost of health care for uninsured Americans assumed by local, state and federal governments: $35 billion
Most recent spending bill signed by the President containing 8,993 earmarks (state and federal pork barrel projects) including $700,000 for a bike trail in Minneapolis - $65 billion
The Iraq War - $497 billion (and counting)
And this is my personal favorite - Interest payments last year on the $9.1 trillion National Debt to Treasury Bond holders, Treasury Note holders, and foreign lenders (i.e. other countries we've borrowed money from) - $406 billion
So, just those 3 items equal roughly $1 trillion in taxpayer money spent against the $35 billion spent on uninsured health care people always like to complain about. Oh, and just to head this comment off at the pass, I'm sure someone will want to chime in about welfare. That number was $400 billion, but it includes not only traditional welfare payments, but also education (federal student loans and Pell Grants), monies set aside for medical and scientific research and development, and transporation and infrastructure.
So, the $35 million seems a bit smaller, doesn't it...
Oh, and if you really wanted to get nitpicky and look at just the pure waste. There was a loss item in the most recent Financial Report of the United States Governement issued by the Department of the Treasury citing these little gems:
Unused commercial airline tickets purchased by the Department of Defense in which the never sought the refund - $100 million
Overpayments from the IRS to people recieving the Earned Income Tax Credit - $9 billion.
And, another favorite, a line item for "Unreconciled Transactions", in other words, the "we don't know where the money went, but it isn't there" item - $25 billion
Anywho, my point is, if you have stong feelings about where your money is going, there are much bigger issues than kicking in $20 to help out a guy who sounds like he a pretty good dude and has, even though it was through possible bad decision making, has had a tragic life event.
But what do I know....
Well put slider.
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Not the place to debate politics.
Get well soon.
Get well soon.
And, then there's this issue: He's been P/T in his tenure in Atlanta radio, which means no benefits. If you really want to gripe, look at the "affordability" of health care outside of corporate benefits: He might've been able to chunk out $200 - $300 a month for crappy health care (i.e. the "people" version of "minimum coverage" for auto coverage) which would probably deny his claim (see Cigna's issue with a transplant in California). So, again we go back to his part-time job with a part-time salary. It's highly unlikely he could afford such a payout to insurance. I'm pretty sure he had many debates in his head wether he should have food or have insurance.
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