Good point. If these were rookies, I could see someone judging the podcast based on a surface listen, but I'd think a seasoned programmer could see the potential, knowing these guys are pros with good track records of working in teams. As far as Dave goes, I have to imaginge they're talking with J&E. Aren't they auditioning people now? Why would they take a complete pass on something being handed to them with such big history in the market? Half the battle for a new show is getting established in a city, and that, in and of itself takes forever.