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ESPN Flunks Geography

Graphic shown today on ESPN during World Baseball Classic had a list of the
number of players from foreign countries, including the country of...
Puerto Rico. What...did they forget the country of New Mexico? :)<P ID="signature">______________
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> Graphic shown today on ESPN during World Baseball Classic
> had a list of the
> number of players from foreign countries, including the
> country of...
> Puerto Rico. What...did they forget the country of New
> Mexico? :)
>
While Puerto Rico is a commonwealth under the U.S. government, it is viewed internationally for sports as its own country; it has its own Olympic teams and sports federations, and has its own team in the WBC. So from a sports standpoint, the graphic was correct.

(Wisconsin fans will remember that Marquette's Butch Lee, passed over to play on the U.S. basketball team for the 76 Olympics, instead played for Puerto Rico, where he was born, and almost single handedly beat the U.S.)
 
Ah--thanks for that info! never knew...

> While Puerto Rico is a commonwealth under the U.S.
> government, it is viewed internationally for sports as its
> own country; it has its own Olympic teams and sports
> federations, and has its own team in the WBC. So from a
> sports standpoint, the graphic was correct.
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> Guess that's why Canada gets to field a team even though the
> Queen is her sovereign.
>
> ixnay
>
NO, Canada is a soverign nation in every way. When you enter the country, you go through customs..even if coming in from the UK. The Queen is a ceremonial part of Canada's membership in the Commonwealth of Nations and is a figurehead. Nothing more. Canada has its own laws, military (such as it is), money and territorial claims. These are as independent from the UK as ours are.

Puerto Rico, on the other hand IS part of the territory of the USA. If you enter PR from another country, as I have on many occasions, you deal with the same brand of 'smiling' customs officers from the ICE as you would in Miami, Boston or Atlanta. Our Federal laws apply on the island too. And, Puerto Ricans are US citizens, free to move to Florida, New York or Connecticut and back whenever they want.

So, your analogy was incorrect.

Yes, the commonwealth status is a bit complex - which is why PR has its own "national" sports teams - but it is still not a "country" in the political sense.
 
> > The Queen is a ceremonial part of Canada's
> membership in the Commonwealth of Nations and is a
> figurehead. Nothing more.

Does she any enjoy that status any more or less in the Motherland? Also, if the US were to (re)join the Commonwealth, we'd be stuck with the Crown again, right?

>Canada has its own laws,
> military (such as it is), money and territorial claims.
> These are as independent from the UK as ours are.

I think I knew that
>
> Puerto Rico, on the other hand IS part of the territory of
> the USA. If you enter PR from another country, as I have on
> many occasions, you deal with the same brand of 'smiling'
> customs officers from the ICE as you would in Miami, Boston
> or Atlanta. Our Federal laws apply on the island too. And,
> Puerto Ricans are US citizens, free to move to Florida, New
> York or Connecticut and back whenever they want.

But not the states I've lived in (Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Maryland) or the state I work in (Delaware), right? :)

> So, your analogy was incorrect.

No sh*t. Don't rub it in.

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> > > The Queen is a ceremonial part of Canada's
> > membership in the Commonwealth of Nations and is a
> > figurehead. Nothing more.
>
> Does she any enjoy that status any more or less in the
> Motherland? Also, if the US were to (re)join the
> Commonwealth, we'd be stuck with the Crown again, right?
>
Nope, it's too late. We were never in the Commonweath, as it did not exist in 1776. It came much later - as part of the gentle breakup of the British Empire. Being a republic, there is no place in our constitution for a figurehead monarch. Australia is considering doing the same - by the way.

> >Canada has its own laws,
> > military (such as it is), money and territorial claims.
> > These are as independent from the UK as ours are.
>
> I think I knew that
> >
> > Puerto Rico, on the other hand IS part of the territory of
>
> > the USA. If you enter PR from another country, as I have
> on
> > many occasions, you deal with the same brand of 'smiling'
> > customs officers from the ICE as you would in Miami,
> Boston
> > or Atlanta. Our Federal laws apply on the island too.
> And,
> > Puerto Ricans are US citizens, free to move to Florida,
> New
> > York or Connecticut and back whenever they want.
>
> But not the states I've lived in (Pennsylvania, New Jersey
> and Maryland) or the state I work in (Delaware), right? :)

Just using examples based on experience. I will happily add New Yersey, MD, PA and DE to the list of places where Puerto Ricans can move without hassle - and toss in Hawaii for good measure! :-D

Seriously, their experience is 100% different than that of Mexicans, Dominicans or other Latin Americans who need visas and green cards.
>
> > So, your analogy was incorrect.
>
> No sh*t. Don't rub it in.
>
> ixnay
>
 
Hi everyone:

> > Graphic shown today on ESPN during World Baseball Classic
> > had a list of the
> > number of players from foreign countries, including the
> > country of...
> > Puerto Rico. What...did they forget the country of New
> > Mexico? :)
> >
> While Puerto Rico is a commonwealth under the U.S.
> government, it is viewed internationally for sports as its
> own country; it has its own Olympic teams and sports
> federations, and has its own team in the WBC. So from a
> sports standpoint, the graphic was correct.

Well...No matter how you slice it, dice it, shred it, cut it or what have you, the simple fact of the matter is this....

New Mexico is A LONG WAYS away from Puerto Rico. One quick look at a U.S. road map should've told the people responsible at ESPN they were airing the WRONG graphic. Not only that, but PR doesn't even look ANYTHING like NM as far as land mass goes.

Just my opinion :D

Cheers :)

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> > > Graphic shown today on ESPN during World Baseball
> Classic
> > > had a list of the
> > > number of players from foreign countries, including the
> > > country of...
> > > Puerto Rico. What...did they forget the country of New
> > > Mexico? :)


> New Mexico is A LONG WAYS away from Puerto Rico. One quick
> look at a U.S. road map should've told the people
> responsible at ESPN they were airing the WRONG graphic. Not
> only that, but PR doesn't even look ANYTHING like NM as far
> as land mass goes.

Actually I think he was making a funny side remark about how often people think New Mexico is another country/part of Mexico, not saying they had aired a NM grahpic for PR.
 
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