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Ex-KFI Host John Ziegler Joining KGIL

What is with this station? Seems like every week there's a new lineup.

Let's see...when is Michael Jackson on? (Who?)
 
If KABC went with a streamlined version of the KGIL lineup, they would actually get some ratings.

The KGIL signal is a waste and any host who ends up there can say they have LA clearance, but no listeners to speak of.

Ziegler has moxy though. He is worth keeping an eye on.
 
Is "moxie" how you define the act of going on to the USC campus and getting arrested to protest Katie Couric being honored by the university, simply because he didn't like the way she interviewed Sarah Palin? Remember-- this is the same guy who was so savvy that he got himself fired from KFI for p***ig off the afternoon talent that preceded him on the air.
 
Let's remember that John will be able to bring some controversy to KGIL and, hopefully, some free publicity as well.
Saul has to be banking on that.
 
As a fan of Ziegler I'm happy, but the fact that KGIL is shaving an hour off of Glenn Beck is not a good thing. I, myself, would have dumped Monica Crowley and gone with three hours of JZ. As a buffer between Glenn Beck and Michael Savage it seems, to me, that it would have been a good fit. A lot of times Glenn alludes to something coming in the third hour which now I won't hear.

While some may say that John was not smart to p***off Kobylt, and that seems to have been true by the outcome, John Kobylt is a bit overbearing at times. I think that letting anyone tell management who may or may not broadcast from your studio is a mistake, who is in charge? I'm sure that John and Ken are very well paid and certainly enough to be able to stand someone else in the same building. They don't like Handel very much either but they co-exist with him.
 
nmoore6676 said:
As a fan of Ziegler I'm happy, but the fact that KGIL is shaving an hour off of Glenn Beck is not a good thing. I, myself, would have dumped Monica Crowley and gone with three hours of JZ. As a buffer between Glenn Beck and Michael Savage it seems, to me, that it would have been a good fit. A lot of times Glenn alludes to something coming in the third hour which now I won't hear.

While some may say that John was not smart to p***off Kobylt, and that seems to have been true by the outcome, John Kobylt is a bit overbearing at times. I think that letting anyone tell management who may or may not broadcast from your studio is a mistake, who is in charge? I'm sure that John and Ken are very well paid and certainly enough to be able to stand someone else in the same building. They don't like Handel very much either but they co-exist with him.
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Ziegler is odd, too. He was known to have a fit (in Burbank) if anyone was watching him through the studio window. I'm sure we could come up with many personalities that have received from managment what one might call outrageous demands.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
nmoore6676 said:
As a fan of Ziegler I'm happy, but the fact that KGIL is shaving an hour off of Glenn Beck is not a good thing. I, myself, would have dumped Monica Crowley and gone with three hours of JZ. As a buffer between Glenn Beck and Michael Savage it seems, to me, that it would have been a good fit. A lot of times Glenn alludes to something coming in the third hour which now I won't hear.

While some may say that John was not smart to p***off Kobylt, and that seems to have been true by the outcome, John Kobylt is a bit overbearing at times. I think that letting anyone tell management who may or may not broadcast from your studio is a mistake, who is in charge? I'm sure that John and Ken are very well paid and certainly enough to be able to stand someone else in the same building. They don't like Handel very much either but they co-exist with him.
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Ziegler is odd, too. He was known to have a fit (in Burbank) if anyone was watching him through the studio window. I'm sure we could come up with many personalities that have received from managment what one might call outrageous demands.
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I once knew a DJ back in Ohio who not only blocked the windows to the hall but locked the door from the inside when he was on the air. But I like his commentary, even when I don't agree. I'm sure he has had a few "I wish I hadn't done that" second thoughts about his dust up with Kobylt. One thing I have noticed is the Suits isn't risking a similar fate, he is deferential to the terrible duo to the point of sickening obsequiousness. Anyway he can only help KGIL which has no weekday local show so I wish him and Saul Levine well. I still believe in local radio stations, owned and operated in the communities they serve.
 
The pool has already started. I give him two months. If he hated KFI, he'll really hate working for a mom & pop operation like KGIL. I think he'll wear out his welcome pretty fast. And when that time comes it'll be zero skin off Saul's nose. He'll just pick up the 2 hours of syndicated programming that Ziegler replaced and in another couple of months the Levine's will change the line-up again. You get the idea. You see, with KGIL there have been so many changes since Mt. Wilson Broadcasting became the owners that the audience doesn't even bother with them anymore...
 
calguy said:
The pool has already started. I give him two months. If he hated KFI, he'll really hate working for a mom & pop operation like KGIL. I think he'll wear out his welcome pretty fast. And when that time comes it'll be zero skin off Saul's nose. He'll just pick up the 2 hours of syndicated programming that Ziegler replaced and in another couple of months the Levine's will change the line-up again. You get the idea. You see, with KGIL there have been so many changes since Mt. Wilson Broadcasting became the owners that the audience doesn't even bother with them anymore...
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I have to give you that there have been a number of changes in KGIL programming but I hope that this time they stay with what they are doing. They were the first to bring Glenn Beck to a signal I could hear in this market. Of course I had the same hopes for their "Oldies" format because they did it better than most, even the ones streaming on the net. I learned a lot from John Reagan's Doo Wop Show on the weekends. I also enjoyed their Great American Song Book that they now use for fill. Putting Classical on AM wasn't a smart idea but I image that they had commitments to burn off after they flipped the FM to country.

Again, everyone on these boards complains about how the evil Clear Channel and their fellow mega broadcasters are destroying radio. Well like it or not the little guys like Saul are the only ones trying to keep it local. Yes some of them are eccentric, you'd have to be to not have sold out when the big guys were wagging big wads of cash in your face, but Mount Wilson is trying even though it is a bit frustrating at times. Everytime I get into one of their formats on 1260 it changes, yet again I find myself wanting this time to be different.
 
"Everytime I get into one of their formats on 1260 it changes, yet again I find myself wanting this time to be different."

Just curious...what empirical data do you have that suggests KGIL will do anything differently than they've done in the past? I'm reminded of the definition of business insanity...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And by the way...it wasn't so long ago that KGIL's lineup was all syndicated, so let's not be bestowing any localism awards quite yet.
 
nmoore6676 said:
...the fact that KGIL is shaving an hour off of Glenn Beck is not a good thing. I, myself, would have dumped Monica Crowley and gone with three hours of JZ. As a buffer between Glenn Beck and Michael Savage it seems, to me, that it would have been a good fit. A lot of times Glenn alludes to something coming in the third hour which now I won't hear.
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I agree with you completely. Beck and Savage are Saul's hottest properties. He needs to add content within and build around both shows and make them shine. Dump Crowley, or at least move her.
 
If you don't like what KGIL is doing, wait a few minutes. The Levines have this thing about change. And change. And change. Try remembering all the call letters on 1260 since Saul bought it. (No fair looking.) Try to remember all the local staff changes. And try to remember all the format changes--not including the almost weekly programming upheavals since they went talk. KGIL is not a place to work when one hopes for longevity.

But the station belongs to the family, and it is their toy to play with as they wish. (And now that the FM seems to be making money--and is worth a fortune when Saul or the family chooses to dump it--they can diddle around all they want.)
 
Without looking at the call letters in the database:

KJAZ (?)
KGIL (let's not forget KGXL 540AM Costa Mesa!)
KSUR
KMZT
KKGO

Am I forgetting any?
 
Shoot From Hip said:
"Everytime I get into one of their formats on 1260 it changes, yet again I find myself wanting this time to be different."

Just curious...what empirical data do you have that suggests KGIL will do anything differently than they've done in the past? I'm reminded of the definition of business insanity...doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And by the way...it wasn't so long ago that KGIL's lineup was all syndicated, so let's not be bestowing any localism awards quite yet.
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I suppose that the only evidence is that now that the FM should be making money that there is no urgent financial impetus to change. I wouldn't give out any localism awards either, they promised, or hinted, at such when they began with Michael Jackson. They also featured local commentary with Ziegler and more weekend shows locally produced. It is going to be wait and see, but I like what they are doing, minus the frequent "retuning" and shuffling but mostly I like it. Sometimes I wish it were on a better signal but 1260 was originally assigned as a local channel for the San Fernando Valley and the COL was in fact San Fernando. Even with the power upgrade it really can't do much more than that with most of the daytime 20KW serving whale colonies and schools of fish.
 
From whatI understand Zeigler had been offering commentaries on KGIL. Now he'll be on full-on. It would be a d*mn sight better that Crowley, the worst talk host ever syndicated!

By the way, does that mean www.therealkfi.com will go dark now?
 
nmoore6676 said:
I suppose that the only evidence is that now that the FM should be making money that there is no urgent financial impetus to change. I wouldn't give out any localism awards either, they promised, or hinted, at such when they began with Michael Jackson. They also featured local commentary with Ziegler and more weekend shows locally produced. It is going to be wait and see, but I like what they are doing, minus the frequent "retuning" and shuffling but mostly I like it. Sometimes I wish it were on a better signal but 1260 was originally assigned as a local channel for the San Fernando Valley and the COL was in fact San Fernando. Even with the power upgrade it really can't do much more than that with most of the daytime 20KW serving whale colonies and schools of fish.
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They were almost cleared to go 50,000 watts. However, there is an AM station in Long Beach (KFRN 1280AM) that would have interfered. It appears that 20,000 watts was the highest they could get.
 
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