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ibezdechi
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There is an interesting thread developing on the Los Angeles board that the Fabulous 690 is going to be on for a while longer if not until the first of the year or maybe longer.
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> There is an interesting thread developing on the Los Angeles
> board that the Fabulous 690 is going to be on for a while
> longer if not until the first of the year or maybe longer.
That does not match the declarations of the buyer, Grupo Prisa, which is the largest international broadcaster in the world.
>
> board that the Fabulous 690 is going to be on for a while
> longer if not until the first of the year or maybe longer.
That does not match the declarations of the buyer, Grupo Prisa, which is the largest international broadcaster in the world.
>
K
KMRichards
Guest
> > There is an interesting thread developing on the Los
> Angeles
> > board that the Fabulous 690 is going to be on for a while
> > longer if not until the first of the year or maybe longer.
>
>
> That does not match the declarations of the buyer, Grupo
> Prisa, which is the largest international broadcaster in the
> world.
The poster of the so-called "fact" that Fabulous 690 is staying on is a known rumormonger who isn't above inventing his own rumors when none exist.
He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors, speculation, and the like. And now you know why.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Angeles
> > board that the Fabulous 690 is going to be on for a while
> > longer if not until the first of the year or maybe longer.
>
>
> That does not match the declarations of the buyer, Grupo
> Prisa, which is the largest international broadcaster in the
> world.
The poster of the so-called "fact" that Fabulous 690 is staying on is a known rumormonger who isn't above inventing his own rumors when none exist.
He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors, speculation, and the like. And now you know why.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
>
> He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors,
> speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
>
Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the story."
> He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors,
> speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
>
Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the story."
K
KMRichards
Guest
> >
> > He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors,
>
> > speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
> >
>
> Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the
> story."
I think Paul Harvey has that phrase copyrighted, and well, you know how I feel about posting copyrighted stuff ...<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > He is the main reason for my being so touchy about rumors,
>
> > speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
> >
>
> Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the
> story."
I think Paul Harvey has that phrase copyrighted, and well, you know how I feel about posting copyrighted stuff ...<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
I
ibezdechi
Guest
At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated with Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo backlash brewing.
> > >
> > > He is the main reason for my being so touchy about
> rumors,
> >
> > > speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
> > >
> >
> > Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the
> > story."
>
> I think Paul Harvey has that phrase copyrighted, and well,
> you know how I feel about posting copyrighted stuff ...
>
> > >
> > > He is the main reason for my being so touchy about
> rumors,
> >
> > > speculation, and the like. And now you know why.
> > >
> >
> > Shouldn't that be, "and now you know... the rest of the
> > story."
>
> I think Paul Harvey has that phrase copyrighted, and well,
> you know how I feel about posting copyrighted stuff ...
>
> At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated with
> Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> backlash brewing.
There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090 converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and one AM, which is religious.
HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican border.
> Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> backlash brewing.
There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090 converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and one AM, which is religious.
HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican border.
You and I both know, David, that perception is reality!
Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those with short historical attention spans will not.
I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of Spanish stations is increasing - even though they're simply returning to what they were prior to US control.
- Doc
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those with short historical attention spans will not.
I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of Spanish stations is increasing - even though they're simply returning to what they were prior to US control.
- Doc
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
I
ibezdechi
Guest
What I was trying to communicate obliquely was that thee is going to be a saturation point on the number of Spanish stations serving San Diego. With every new station going on the air the pie is being cut into smaller and smaller pieces. Adam Smith's "invisible hand" will eventually dictate the number of stations programming in Spanish vs. the number of stations programming in English. They cannot all survive as not all Latinos are necessarily going to be listening to those stations programming in Spanish.
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
C
collinsradio
Guest
I know you're a big advocate for any Hispanic station
or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
to Mexico LA.
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
to Mexico LA.
> > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> with
> > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > backlash brewing.
>
> There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10 years
> ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
>
> Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
>
> There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> one AM, which is religious.
>
> HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> border.
>
> I know you're a big advocate for any Hispanic station
> or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
> illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
> concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
> to Mexico LA.
The fact is that XETRA is a Mexican station. Many broadcasters in the US have LMAed such stations to sefve San Diego, but in doing so they have deprived Tijuana, a city just as big, of its own variety of program offerings.
Ethnic media in the US go back to before the American revolution, when there were papers and perioducals in French, Dutch, German and such. As the big Irish (many did not speak English) arrived in the 1840's, followed by the Germans, and the Italians from the 1870's on and so forth, media for each group helped the first generation cope with living in a country with different customs and language.
Despite popular belief that prior waves of immigrants learned good English rapidly, the assimilation occured in the second generation, just as today. Generally, the man of a family learned enough English for his job, but the wife frequently learned little or none.
If you look at the Nielsen or Arbitron figures, in some markets like San Antonio and Albuquerque, less than 25% of Hispanics are Spanish dominant. Even in LA, nearly half are English dominant, since they are second generation or came here very young.
Hispanic media for the bilingual second generation is expanding faster than any other sector, with stations that ocmbine both languages popping up every week this year.
> or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
> illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
> concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
> to Mexico LA.
The fact is that XETRA is a Mexican station. Many broadcasters in the US have LMAed such stations to sefve San Diego, but in doing so they have deprived Tijuana, a city just as big, of its own variety of program offerings.
Ethnic media in the US go back to before the American revolution, when there were papers and perioducals in French, Dutch, German and such. As the big Irish (many did not speak English) arrived in the 1840's, followed by the Germans, and the Italians from the 1870's on and so forth, media for each group helped the first generation cope with living in a country with different customs and language.
Despite popular belief that prior waves of immigrants learned good English rapidly, the assimilation occured in the second generation, just as today. Generally, the man of a family learned enough English for his job, but the wife frequently learned little or none.
If you look at the Nielsen or Arbitron figures, in some markets like San Antonio and Albuquerque, less than 25% of Hispanics are Spanish dominant. Even in LA, nearly half are English dominant, since they are second generation or came here very young.
Hispanic media for the bilingual second generation is expanding faster than any other sector, with stations that ocmbine both languages popping up every week this year.
I
ibezdechi
Guest
Sounds like your sales spiel for you radio station formats, David.
> > I know you're a big advocate for any Hispanic station
> > or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
> > illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
> > concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
> > to Mexico LA.
>
> The fact is that XETRA is a Mexican station. Many
> broadcasters in the US have LMAed such stations to sefve San
> Diego, but in doing so they have deprived Tijuana, a city
> just as big, of its own variety of program offerings.
>
> Ethnic media in the US go back to before the American
> revolution, when there were papers and perioducals in
> French, Dutch, German and such. As the big Irish (many did
> not speak English) arrived in the 1840's, followed by the
> Germans, and the Italians from the 1870's on and so forth,
> media for each group helped the first generation cope with
> living in a country with different customs and language.
>
> Despite popular belief that prior waves of immigrants
> learned good English rapidly, the assimilation occured in
> the second generation, just as today. Generally, the man of
> a family learned enough English for his job, but the wife
> frequently learned little or none.
>
> If you look at the Nielsen or Arbitron figures, in some
> markets like San Antonio and Albuquerque, less than 25% of
> Hispanics are Spanish dominant. Even in LA, nearly half are
> English dominant, since they are second generation or came
> here very young.
>
> Hispanic media for the bilingual second generation is
> expanding faster than any other sector, with stations that
> ocmbine both languages popping up every week this year.
>
> > I know you're a big advocate for any Hispanic station
> > or format, but essentialy many in the US are serving
> > illegal aliens, I find that repulsive. The melting pot
> > concept in this country is apparently dead, hey welcome
> > to Mexico LA.
>
> The fact is that XETRA is a Mexican station. Many
> broadcasters in the US have LMAed such stations to sefve San
> Diego, but in doing so they have deprived Tijuana, a city
> just as big, of its own variety of program offerings.
>
> Ethnic media in the US go back to before the American
> revolution, when there were papers and perioducals in
> French, Dutch, German and such. As the big Irish (many did
> not speak English) arrived in the 1840's, followed by the
> Germans, and the Italians from the 1870's on and so forth,
> media for each group helped the first generation cope with
> living in a country with different customs and language.
>
> Despite popular belief that prior waves of immigrants
> learned good English rapidly, the assimilation occured in
> the second generation, just as today. Generally, the man of
> a family learned enough English for his job, but the wife
> frequently learned little or none.
>
> If you look at the Nielsen or Arbitron figures, in some
> markets like San Antonio and Albuquerque, less than 25% of
> Hispanics are Spanish dominant. Even in LA, nearly half are
> English dominant, since they are second generation or came
> here very young.
>
> Hispanic media for the bilingual second generation is
> expanding faster than any other sector, with stations that
> ocmbine both languages popping up every week this year.
>
> Sounds like your sales spiel for you radio station formats,
> David.
English, please. Seriously, was that a comment, a question or what _did_ it mean?
If you mean I am justifying Spanish language radio, that is absurd. There are now 800 Spanish stations in the US, and 40 million Hispanics. Gone are the days when advertisers said, "I don't want those people in my store" or "Your listeners don't by my cars, they steal them." The Hispanic market has $1 billion in consumer spendable income.
I was in Black radio in the very early 60's when it went through the problems of exclusion, and Hispanic radio has now overcme such prejudices... but much more recently.
> David.
English, please. Seriously, was that a comment, a question or what _did_ it mean?
If you mean I am justifying Spanish language radio, that is absurd. There are now 800 Spanish stations in the US, and 40 million Hispanics. Gone are the days when advertisers said, "I don't want those people in my store" or "Your listeners don't by my cars, they steal them." The Hispanic market has $1 billion in consumer spendable income.
I was in Black radio in the very early 60's when it went through the problems of exclusion, and Hispanic radio has now overcme such prejudices... but much more recently.
I
ibezdechi
Guest
Your post sounded more like a sales talk.
Spiel = German = performance/play
This is a word in the American English vernacular.
> > Sounds like your sales spiel for you radio station
> formats,
> > David.
>
> English, please. Seriously, was that a comment, a question
> or what _did_ it mean?
>
> If you mean I am justifying Spanish language radio, that is
> absurd. There are now 800 Spanish stations in the US, and 40
> million Hispanics. Gone are the days when advertisers said,
> "I don't want those people in my store" or "Your listeners
> don't by my cars, they steal them." The Hispanic market has
> $1 billion in consumer spendable income.
>
> I was in Black radio in the very early 60's when it went
> through the problems of exclusion, and Hispanic radio has
> now overcme such prejudices... but much more recently.
>
Spiel = German = performance/play
This is a word in the American English vernacular.
> > Sounds like your sales spiel for you radio station
> formats,
> > David.
>
> English, please. Seriously, was that a comment, a question
> or what _did_ it mean?
>
> If you mean I am justifying Spanish language radio, that is
> absurd. There are now 800 Spanish stations in the US, and 40
> million Hispanics. Gone are the days when advertisers said,
> "I don't want those people in my store" or "Your listeners
> don't by my cars, they steal them." The Hispanic market has
> $1 billion in consumer spendable income.
>
> I was in Black radio in the very early 60's when it went
> through the problems of exclusion, and Hispanic radio has
> now overcme such prejudices... but much more recently.
>
> Your post sounded more like a sales talk.
>
> Spiel = German = performance/play
>
> This is a word in the American English vernacular.
I know what that _word_ means. I just don't understand what your whole post means.
>
> Spiel = German = performance/play
>
> This is a word in the American English vernacular.
I know what that _word_ means. I just don't understand what your whole post means.
K
KMRichards
Guest
Moderator Response to dawg
> > Your post sounded more like a sales talk.
> >
> > Spiel = German = performance/play
> >
> > This is a word in the American English vernacular.
>
> I know what that _word_ means. I just don't understand what
> your whole post means.
I think the rest of us are proficient enough in reading between the lines of wulfdawg's posts to know what he means.
Mr. Dawg is trying to conceal his racism and hatred for Spanish-speaking individuals, and likely does not make any differentiation between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, or American-born individuals. And his attempts to conceal that hatred are not very successful.
As such, he is now on very thin ice, and this thread is in danger of being closed. (And he just went on the "watch list" for possible banishment.)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> > Your post sounded more like a sales talk.
> >
> > Spiel = German = performance/play
> >
> > This is a word in the American English vernacular.
>
> I know what that _word_ means. I just don't understand what
> your whole post means.
I think the rest of us are proficient enough in reading between the lines of wulfdawg's posts to know what he means.
Mr. Dawg is trying to conceal his racism and hatred for Spanish-speaking individuals, and likely does not make any differentiation between legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, or American-born individuals. And his attempts to conceal that hatred are not very successful.
As such, he is now on very thin ice, and this thread is in danger of being closed. (And he just went on the "watch list" for possible banishment.)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
I
ibezdechi
Guest
Re: Moderator Response to dawg
I am sorry that my remarks have been interpreted by the moderator as he has. I honestly have no idea how K.M. Richards was able to jump to the conclusions he apparently has.
I am a first generation American with strong roots to Eastern Europe. I know first hand what is "hatred" and "discrimination." In fact, albeit that I am Caucasian, in order to do ANYTHING involving the broadcast industry I have had to conceal my true name (which really shows that I'm not Anglo-Saxon). My parents are naturalized Americans. Specifically, as an American of part Baltic (Latvian/Estonian) heritage, I have experienced on my own skin what "hatred" and "discrimination" is. My own grandfather who was a judge who sat on the Supreme Court was executed by the Russians, my mother was on the occupying-Russian forces list to be executed simply because she was my grandfather's daughter. My father, a Belgian Jew, was incarcerated by the Nazis during their occupation of Belgium to be transferred to the Buchenwald death camp. What saved him was that he was openly raised Catholic and had not had the Bris performed on him. (In other words, the Nazis controlling the jail saw that my father was not circumsized and then promptly released him. After that, my father was part of the Belgian Resistance movement.) Here in San Diego, for ten years before his death, my father was employed by a wonderful Mexican family who themselves, as Mexican nationals who have run a successful business. To throw out a pejorative at me accusing me of being a racist is nothing further from the truth.
The only one who apparently has understood my remarks is DoctorWu, who correctly said yesterday:
>>You and I both know, David, that perception is reality!
>>
>>Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those with short >>historical attention spans will not.
>>
>>I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of Spanish stations is >>increasing - even though they're simply returning to what they were prior to US >>control.
My remarks were simply expressing my frustration (like many others) of the number of radio station choices seems to be diminishing.
Any attempt to make anything more of my thoughts is a serious abstraction of reality. If anyone else besides KM has came to such a conclusion based on my musings that he apparently has, I offer a wholehearted apology.
I am offering K.M. Richards the opportunity to call me directly on the phone to make any clarifications he sees fit. (I am CC'ing him a copy of this post along with my phone number.)
> I think the rest of us are proficient enough in reading
> between the lines of wulfdawg's posts to know what he means.
>
>
> Mr. Dawg is trying to conceal his racism and hatred for
> Spanish-speaking individuals, and likely does not make any
> differentiation between legal immigrants, illegal
> immigrants, or American-born individuals. And his attempts
> to conceal that hatred are not very successful.
>
> As such, he is now on very thin ice, and this thread is in
> danger of being closed. (And he just went on the "watch
> list" for possible banishment.)
>
I am sorry that my remarks have been interpreted by the moderator as he has. I honestly have no idea how K.M. Richards was able to jump to the conclusions he apparently has.
I am a first generation American with strong roots to Eastern Europe. I know first hand what is "hatred" and "discrimination." In fact, albeit that I am Caucasian, in order to do ANYTHING involving the broadcast industry I have had to conceal my true name (which really shows that I'm not Anglo-Saxon). My parents are naturalized Americans. Specifically, as an American of part Baltic (Latvian/Estonian) heritage, I have experienced on my own skin what "hatred" and "discrimination" is. My own grandfather who was a judge who sat on the Supreme Court was executed by the Russians, my mother was on the occupying-Russian forces list to be executed simply because she was my grandfather's daughter. My father, a Belgian Jew, was incarcerated by the Nazis during their occupation of Belgium to be transferred to the Buchenwald death camp. What saved him was that he was openly raised Catholic and had not had the Bris performed on him. (In other words, the Nazis controlling the jail saw that my father was not circumsized and then promptly released him. After that, my father was part of the Belgian Resistance movement.) Here in San Diego, for ten years before his death, my father was employed by a wonderful Mexican family who themselves, as Mexican nationals who have run a successful business. To throw out a pejorative at me accusing me of being a racist is nothing further from the truth.
The only one who apparently has understood my remarks is DoctorWu, who correctly said yesterday:
>>You and I both know, David, that perception is reality!
>>
>>Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those with short >>historical attention spans will not.
>>
>>I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of Spanish stations is >>increasing - even though they're simply returning to what they were prior to US >>control.
My remarks were simply expressing my frustration (like many others) of the number of radio station choices seems to be diminishing.
Any attempt to make anything more of my thoughts is a serious abstraction of reality. If anyone else besides KM has came to such a conclusion based on my musings that he apparently has, I offer a wholehearted apology.
I am offering K.M. Richards the opportunity to call me directly on the phone to make any clarifications he sees fit. (I am CC'ing him a copy of this post along with my phone number.)
> I think the rest of us are proficient enough in reading
> between the lines of wulfdawg's posts to know what he means.
>
>
> Mr. Dawg is trying to conceal his racism and hatred for
> Spanish-speaking individuals, and likely does not make any
> differentiation between legal immigrants, illegal
> immigrants, or American-born individuals. And his attempts
> to conceal that hatred are not very successful.
>
> As such, he is now on very thin ice, and this thread is in
> danger of being closed. (And he just went on the "watch
> list" for possible banishment.)
>
Re: Moderator Response to dawg
> I am sorry that my remarks have been interpreted by the
> moderator as he has. I honestly have no idea how K.M.
> Richards was able to jump to the conclusions he apparently
> has.
I do. Go back and re-read your posts. They come off as thinly veiled racism to me.
We don't know you, and we don't know about your life experiences. We can only go by your words. And your words certainly aren't doing you any favors.<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
> I am sorry that my remarks have been interpreted by the
> moderator as he has. I honestly have no idea how K.M.
> Richards was able to jump to the conclusions he apparently
> has.
I do. Go back and re-read your posts. They come off as thinly veiled racism to me.
We don't know you, and we don't know about your life experiences. We can only go by your words. And your words certainly aren't doing you any favors.<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
C
collinsradio
Guest
Hey I can tell you that growing up in San Diego XTRA has been
an English frequency since the 1950's. The real point is there
are a hell of a lot of U.S. based Spanish stations now in markets
like San Diego, where there used to be 1-2. My hope is they keep
increasing to thbe point of total fragmentation, and the huge
advantage that they have (both from Arbitron methodology &
population trends) will lessen. I find the whole 690 switch
a little funny, sounds like a format which isn't very relevant
to Hispanics in the San Diego area. One thing I've found is up
until recently an owner of Spanish language stations would sign
the station off the air before going to an English format, no
matter how bad their ratings were. I find that somewhat racist,
but more importantly bad business. I will say this, if many of
the major mainstream radio groups paid as much attention to their
product as Hispanic groups have, local radio would be better off.
> You and I both know, David, that perception is reality!
>
> Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those
> with short historical attention spans will not.
>
> I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of
> Spanish stations is increasing - even though they're simply
> returning to what they were prior to US control.
>
> - Doc
>
> > > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> > with
> > > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > > backlash brewing.
> >
> > There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10
> years
> > ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> > converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
> >
> > Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> > population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
> >
> > There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> > one AM, which is religious.
> >
> > HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> > border.
> >
>
an English frequency since the 1950's. The real point is there
are a hell of a lot of U.S. based Spanish stations now in markets
like San Diego, where there used to be 1-2. My hope is they keep
increasing to thbe point of total fragmentation, and the huge
advantage that they have (both from Arbitron methodology &
population trends) will lessen. I find the whole 690 switch
a little funny, sounds like a format which isn't very relevant
to Hispanics in the San Diego area. One thing I've found is up
until recently an owner of Spanish language stations would sign
the station off the air before going to an English format, no
matter how bad their ratings were. I find that somewhat racist,
but more importantly bad business. I will say this, if many of
the major mainstream radio groups paid as much attention to their
product as Hispanic groups have, local radio would be better off.
> You and I both know, David, that perception is reality!
>
> Anyone with a memory knows what you're saying is true. Those
> with short historical attention spans will not.
>
> I think Wulf's point is that it feels like the number of
> Spanish stations is increasing - even though they're simply
> returning to what they were prior to US control.
>
> - Doc
>
> > > At one point the San Diego market will be oversaturated
> > with
> > > Latino stations, especially in that there is an Anglo
> > > backlash brewing.
> >
> > There are fewer stations in Spanish than there were 10
> years
> > ago. Many of the FMs converted to English, and 1090
> > converted from Spanish to English, as did 1700.
> >
> > Remember, Tijuana is a top 10 Mexican market, with
> > population very nearly the same as the San Diego market.
> >
> > There are only 2 US licensed Spanish FMs on the dial, and
> > one AM, which is religious.
> >
> > HArdly the stuff of backlash, especially on the Mexican
> > border.
> >
>
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