Failure Redux

[Menlo Bill]

To figure out the individual months between books we used to times three the current trend number (persons) and subtract the previous two . Not exact but a pretty good indicator whether a month was up or down and did tend to give an indication where the station was headed in a full book.

Question: Even if Air America has done well in the past in a few markets it seems to be a tough sell compared to Conservative Talk. Why is that?

 

[landtuna]

Question: Even if Air America has done well in the past in a few markets it seems to be a tough sell compared to Conservative Talk. Why is that?

IMHO, there are more 'conservative' sheeple than progressives and the sheeple tend to want to hear their views expressed by bombastic personalities.

But I also think the label 'conservative' doesn't do justice to the huge numbers of people who don't label themselves but vote their conscience on individual issues rather than a party line. I think that is why we are seeing the rise of the independents.

It's getting more and more difficult to put people in boxes.

 

[Bill Drake]

Progressive talk is not hard to sell if you don't bury it on a dead marginal station.

The Rushbots on this board not withstanding, KXXT did achieve some decent numbers before its sale. As did KNUV before its collapse. And their demos would be much better than the KFYI wheel chaired, colostomic, Sun City set. And for how many years (a decade?) did it take KFYI to reach its current "pinnacle," where it regularly jousts with Univision and a burned out oldies station?

I see NO Air America programming listed for KPHX. That's a good thing.

Overall, progressive radio will never get the numbers that conservabots get for one simple reason. It has to do with the educational level of the sheeple.

Have you looked at the events of the last eight years? Have you ever studied marketing trends and the use of propaganda? Refer to my previous comments about facts. There are only one set of "facts" while there can be many "opinions." Sadly, too many people have opinions based on erroneous facts not grounded in reality. Ask yourself where you fit in that structure.

Another point to consider is a sad commentary that people are adverse to thinking; they need to be led and told what to do. That’s why when you walk into WartMart you can’t but any ammunition, and gun stores have empty shelves. Because someone somewhere started a viral e mail that the current administration was going to take all your guns and place serial numbers on all ammunition. How silly! When in reality everyone knows what the government is really going to do is RFID chip all conservabot listeners! There’s no end to the moneys that can be made manipulating the masses.

(BTW I am sure some of the regulars here just soiled themselves with that last comment. These poor unfortunates need to loosen up. Captain Morgan is a good therapy).

To that end, talk radio has moved from the entertainment venue to that of attempting to shape social and governmental polices and opinions. This is even more salient since the number one talk show host in the nation (who gets paid more than he earns for his "services") appears to be the leader of the Know Nothing Party.

Study the whole welfare state thing. By that I don't mean the Rushbot talking point, I mean the ratio of moneys sent to Washington versus those returned in social services to the states (Hint: We live in a welfare state that ranks at the bottom of the list for almost everything). It's a lot more complex than a few billboards of Sean Insanity's increasingly large mug being plastered around the city on some billboards.

Dr. Quakbar, you are dismissed to go adjust your lamp timer. And as any thinking person knows, it IS NOT a lamp timer. It’s a photocell timer. That explains the erratic sign off times.

 

[oldiesfan6479]

Dr. Quakbar, you are dismissed to go adjust your lamp timer. And as any thinking person knows, it IS NOT a lamp timer. It’s a photocell timer. That explains the erratic sign off times.

A photocell timer is not what you'd want to use to turn your transmitter on and off,
since the monthly times are not true to actual sunrise/sunset on any given day, but
are fixed for each month. Knowing Gumpdusky however, it's certainly possible! ;D

"Lamptimer" is funnier, though.

 

[davideduardo]

To figure out the individual months between books we used to times three the current trend number (persons) and subtract the previous two . Not exact but a pretty good indicator whether a month was up or down and did tend to give an indication where the station was headed in a full book.

Again, extrapolations for a single month in the diary method are very unreliable, as the sample is not balanced and no weighting is applied.

Question: Even if Air America has done well in the past in a few markets it seems to be a tough sell compared to Conservative Talk. Why is that?

The only place that progressive talk is doing consitently well is Portland, followed by some success in Portland. Even on 50kw WINZ in Miami, it got dreadful numbers... it just works in a small number ofr markets.

 

[DrAkbar]

Progressive talk is not hard to sell if you don't bury it on a dead marginal station.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .....now the Nurse and I return to adjusting the lamptimer at Lumberyard 14~Forty!

 

[kzewdude]

can't wait...another 0.0 or 0.1 AM station.

 

[ykw]

Question: Even if Air America has done well in the past in a few markets it seems to be a tough sell compared to Conservative Talk. Why is that?

Because con-talk is able to easily position itself as an alternative to the news (or "news", depending on POV) and analysis ("analysis") provided by the vast majority of prominent sources (major newspapers, major networks, major non-Fox news channels) in ways that lib-talkers simply can't, given that they either merely parrot what the rest of the "MSM" is saying or hit all the talking points with the volume control cranked to twelve.

Thus, conservative audiences flock to the one source they feel validates them -- and, face it, most markets only have the one outlet that conservatives are comfortable with, no matter how hard Salem tries -- whereas liberals have dozens of places where they get to feel at home ("smug and condescending").

 

[amfmxm]

Question: Even if Air America has done well in the past in a few markets it seems to be a tough sell compared to Conservative Talk. Why is that?

Because con-talk is able to easily position itself as an alternative to the news (or "news", depending on POV) and analysis ("analysis") provided by the vast majority of prominent sources (major newspapers, major networks, major non-Fox news channels) in ways that lib-talkers simply can't, given that they either merely parrot what the rest of the "MSM" is saying or hit all the talking points with the volume control cranked to twelve.

Thus, conservative audiences flock to the one source they feel validates them -- and, face it, most markets only have the one outlet that conservatives are comfortable with, no matter how hard Salem tries -- whereas liberals have dozens of places where they get to feel at home ("smug and condescending").

LOL!!! I suppose that if you define "news" as "sane," then conservative talk does indeed provide a definite alternative.

 

[DrAkbar]

Here's a clue: www.1480KPHX.com

Of course the owner of Kah Pay Ach-ee Eckees has sat on this domain for a number of years. Maybe La Super X is coming back? :

 

[noshow]

Here's a clue: www.1480KPHX.com

Thanks, Dr. Very interesting. What's also interesting is a blog on the site, attributed to another Doctor, Dr. Mike Newcomb. Newcomb's blog is actually the first few lines of a blog by Stephon Lemons in the New Times. Ironically, Lemons goes on to say some not very nice things about Dr. Newcomb.

 

[KeithE4]

But. most importantly, is Dewey Hopper getting his old job back? ;D

 

[DrAkbar]

But. most importantly, is Dewey Hopper getting his old job back? ;D

What about Gary Coleman and the All Comedy Network? Kah Pay Ach-ee Eckees has had more nips and tucks than Pattycakes Kirkpatric in the past five years!

 

[Legend City]

Lemons is a hack. Its funny, he obsessively posts anti Arpaio stories, yet when two professional writers from the Tribune do an anti Arpaio story, they get Pulitzers!

 

[Nik]

Lemons is a hack. Its funny, he obsessively posts anti Arpaio stories, yet when two professional writers from the Tribune do an anti Arpaio story, they get Pulitzers!

Good lord, he certainly is... I followed some links to past articles he wrote and they were so slanted I had to hold my laptop at an angle to read! ;D

Seriously, that guy has got a broken stick up his arse and has to pop little blue pills to keep his hard-on for Arpaio and all things "right wing" up.

 

[pattiwacki]

I cruise by his online blog once a week or so just to see how far he will go with his absurd attacks on all things conservative and he ALWAYS exceeds my expectations! I honestly think the more he rags on Arpaio, the more the public supports MCSO.

 

[Legend City]

Lemons is a hack. Its funny, he obsessively posts anti Arpaio stories, yet when two professional writers from the Tribune do an anti Arpaio story, they get Pulitzers!

Good lord, he certainly is... I followed some links to past articles he wrote and they were so slanted I had to hold my laptop at an angle to read! ;D

Seriously, that guy has got a broken stick up his arse and has to pop little blue pills to keep his hard-on for Arpaio and all things "right wing" up.

I am NO fan of Arpaio, I think he is a thug, a goon and a complete &#(@*.

But Lemons? I met the guy once, he is a dumber, uglier, fatter and meaner version of Michael Moore, and he is a hack scribe wannabe.

 

[Sammi Brie]

Turned on 1480 this morning to the sweet banter of Stephanie Miller.

1480 will now take its rightful place on my radio preset dial.

Yes, it's true.

 

[ctkatz]

are there streaming links up yet, or do the old ones still work? the kphx site must not be done yet.

the reason i ask is because i am on the other side of the mississippi, but i have an iphone with streaming radio programs. more progressive talk stations on line and online wherever they are are a good thing and the more broadband capabilities are spread and improved, i think the more progressive talk stations will survive because they will no longer be as dependant on local listenership and their signals will be heard better. sure you can ridicule kphx about its weak signal in metro phoenix, but with better broadband capabilities and smart phones and wifi radios, that weak signal isn't going to matter much because people can hear kphx better and with a clearer signal.

 

[DrAkbar]

Turned on 1480 this morning to the sweet banter of Stephanie Miller.

The Nearly Bald One could learn a thing or two about using sfx from her...and of course, she could learn something from him about ratings. Nurse Jeff and I wish Ed Shultz was doing PMD instead of Mike Nuke'em....of course anyone following Randi X#@!&* Rhodes will have a tough time bringing the station back from the brink!

Now where do we go for a Two Martini lunch seeing that the Lounge Lizard has departed?