FCC to KKOB: Power down to 1000 watts now

[Radio Pro]

F-ing with Bluehairs is not cool

AM is D E A D

If dead is dead ahead in the ratings for years..alot of stations would like to be included in the dead.

 

[DoubleC]

WOW if being #1 in Revenue is being dead then bring me an undertaker

 

[w9wi]

Re:How long have you been In Radio?? FCC to KKOB: Power down to 1000 watts now

Not quite that far back - they've only been on 770 since 1941. Before that they were the dominant station on 1180 but with the big frequency shift of 1941 that ended up a Mexican clear with the other three U.S. stations split to 940, 1010, and 1130. (WMAZ, WINS, WDGY)

1180 is not and was not a Mexican clear channel; 1150 became, post NARBA, a regional channel and 50 kw WHAM moved to 1180 as a 1-A clear.

1220 is, however, a Mexican Clear. If the 1180 stations had moved "in pattern" in the big 1941 frequency shift, they would have moved up 40kHz and landed on 1220. However, since 1220 was assigned as a non-US clear, an "in pattern" move wasn't possible. As you say, the US stations that had been on 1180 got spread around to various frequencies - including K(K)OB which ended up on 770.

 

[davideduardo]

Re:How long have you been In Radio?? FCC to KKOB: Power down to 1000 watts now

1220 is, however, a Mexican Clear. If the 1180 stations had moved "in pattern" in the big 1941 frequency shift, they would have moved up 40kHz and landed on 1220. However, since 1220 was assigned as a non-US clear, an "in pattern" move wasn't possible. As you say, the US stations that had been on 1180 got spread around to various frequencies - including K(K)OB which ended up on 770.

The pattern was anything but uniformly applied. 1220 is actually a shared Canadian and Mexican clear, in fact. To see the exact changes you might look at pre-NARBA and post-NARBA complete lists at http://www.davidgleason.com/Radex_Complete_Issues.htm where there is a 1940 and a 1942 Radex magazine showing all stations.

 

[henry]

Just as an FYI ... the petition is now covered with an error message window that says:

"April 01 - April Fools! From 50,000 watt KKOB!"

 

[w9wi]

Re:How long have you been In Radio?? FCC to KKOB: Power down to 1000 watts now

The pattern was anything but uniformly applied. 1220 is actually a shared Canadian and Mexican clear, in fact. To see the exact changes you might look at pre-NARBA and post-NARBA complete lists at http://www.davidgleason.com/Radex_Complete_Issues.htm where there is a 1940 and a 1942 Radex magazine showing all stations.

Oh, absolutely. For example, 1010 which if moved "in pattern" would have sent five US stations to 1050. In fact, the only one that ended up on 1050 was WHN. (now WEPN, New York) The rest ended up as KGGF-690, KQW-740, WNAD-640, and WNOX-990. And again, it was because 1050 ended up a foreign clear. (Mexico only, or Mexico/Canada?)

KOB was just one example of several. Probably the most hotly-contested.

If KOB hadn't been granted the move to 770 in 1941, it probably would have been close to the front of the line to get the channel 25 years later. FCC regulation 73.22 allowed for Class II-A stations in the West, sharing clear channels with stations further east. The initial wording in 1966 allowed for Western sharing with WCBS-880. (the Western station to be in the Dakotas or Nebraska. It ended up being KRVN Lexington, Nebr. which moved from 1010.) The copy I have from 1989 also lists a New Mexico station (KOB, of course) sharing 770 with WABC. I know I've seen a copy that also allows for an Arizona station (KTNN, it turns out) sharing 660 with WNBC/WFAN.

 

[vibe]

I'm glad KKOB doesn't have to power down. I've learned a lot about old channel allocations with this thread. But I'm pi$$ed at being fooled.

 

[w9wi]

I'm glad KKOB doesn't have to power down. I've learned a lot about old channel allocations with this thread. But I'm pi$$ed at being fooled.

Understood; this was certainly a bizarre stunt that probably was as much unappreciated at the FCC offices in Washington as it was in New Mexico!

David may know otherwise but I don't recall any cases since the early 1930s where the government required an operating station to reduce power. (stations have reduced power voluntarily, usually to accomodate increased power at some other station and usually only after being paid by that other station. Don't offhand recall any such cases in New Mexico.)

 

[davideduardo]

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David may know otherwise but I don't recall any cases since the early 1930s where the government required an operating station to reduce power. (stations have reduced power voluntarily, usually to accomodate increased power at some other station and usually only after being paid by that other station. Don't offhand recall any such cases in New Mexico.)

The only thing I can think of that comes close is the move of KFMB in San Diego from 540 to 760 in (fuzzy memore mode ON) around 1970 to accomodate the late assignment of 540 to Mexico as a 1 A clear channel. While power remained at 5 kw, the coverage was reduced due to directionality (WJR) and higher dial position.

 

[DG02816]

Looking at http://www.oldradio.com/archives/stations/ccs.htm may answer W9WI's question about the status of 1050. Looks like a Mexican 1-A, with 150 kW XEG as top dog: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=102202