A lot of Rush listeners either don't have a chance to listen at all during the week because of work, or can only listen a short time, or they're in and out during the show. So it is a chance to catch up on the weekend. I don't garden so Garden talk holds no interest to me. Maybe Car Talk for a short time.
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FM TALK: NOWWWWWWWWWWW IT BEGINS...
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We often attempt to outsmart ourselves.gr8oldies said:
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ericdxx
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The Ultimate Warrior said:
There's no such station huh? AM Drive is important and the syndicator has got their product together.
As a supporter of AM, Talk on FM only puts the final nail in the coffin for AM broadcasters. The only dominant format left for struggling broadcasters on the once dominant band.
Transferring the Rush-Hannity-Beck lineup to FM seems to build audience. Although I'm still not convinced that it's bringing in a younger demo. Putting on an FM talker made up of third-rate syndication (like the prefab Truth in Denver) doesn't seem to be a recipe for anything other than AM-size ratings on FM.
Show me.ericdxx said:
The product for morning Talk syndication on political stations is garbage.
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ericdxx
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The Ultimate Warrior said:
There's Imus in the morning and Bill Handel could work even htough he's not syndicated at this point
Imus is garbage and irrelevant outside of Citadel stations.ericdxx said:
Rush would work in the AM too, but isn't syndicated then so it's irrelevant.
"The product for morning Talk syndication on political stations is garbage."
And what's the denizen consensus on Smerconish?
And what's the denizen consensus on Smerconish?
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del_griffith
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Re: "The product for morning Talk syndication on political stations is garbage."
He's common sense conservative which isn't what I think listeners or programmers are listening for.
I've not heard his Philly radio show, but I've seen him on the cable networks as a guest and he makes sense to me, seems well informed and have a great voice. But he doesn't in those instances breathe conservative fire.
Holland Cooke said:
He's common sense conservative which isn't what I think listeners or programmers are listening for.
I've not heard his Philly radio show, but I've seen him on the cable networks as a guest and he makes sense to me, seems well informed and have a great voice. But he doesn't in those instances breathe conservative fire.
I've listened to Smerconish on WPHT in the mornings (not lately, but within the past 6 months, I believe) and had no problem with his local Philly AM drive time show that preceded Beck back then. He's well spoken, gives good articulate arguments for his point of view. Seems well read and intelligent. He isn't a fire brand, or "secular preacher" like Rush, Hannity, or Beck so that might make Smerconish not as desirable to the right wing audience that is more used to a lot of hype that is Rush/Hannity/Beck. My guess is, Smerconish probably would appeal to the same sort of conservative listener that likes Laura Ingraham or who used to enjoy hearing William F. Buckley discuss issues on PBS. Sort of the NPR type host for the conservative audience.
I remember hearing some time back that he might be getting to do a syndicated show (don't know if it ever happened). I'm assuming that's what you are referring to.
I remember hearing some time back that he might be getting to do a syndicated show (don't know if it ever happened). I'm assuming that's what you are referring to.
Re: "The product for morning Talk syndication on political stations is garbage."
We need to remember the goal is to give the people what they want, not to reinvent the wheel.
del_griffith said:
MikefromDelaware said:
We need to remember the goal is to give the people what they want, not to reinvent the wheel.
RE: Smerconish?
As the-guy-who-works-on-my-boat would say "THERE'S your problem right there..."
del_griffith said:
As the-guy-who-works-on-my-boat would say "THERE'S your problem right there..."
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del_griffith
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Re: RE: Smerconish?
As a programming guru, is there some middle ground that can be found and developed between great entertainment and great information without sounding overly NPRish? Is there talent who can be compelling, informative, entertaining and yet sensible? Or is the toothpaste out of the tube?
Holland Cooke said:
As a programming guru, is there some middle ground that can be found and developed between great entertainment and great information without sounding overly NPRish? Is there talent who can be compelling, informative, entertaining and yet sensible? Or is the toothpaste out of the tube?
RE " is the toothpaste out of the tube?"
Don't feel sorry for NPR. Public Radio has been on-a-roll since de-reg-triggered untenable commercial loads at commercial stations, and newsroom firings and de-localized/voicetracked/otherwise-dumbed-down programming. And when the commercial copy writer got fired, copy on those too-many spots got worse. As commercial AM/FM got shlockier, listeners -- especially the Baby Boomers who are (a) such habitual radio users, and (b) control most of the USA's wealth -- began defecting to less-bogus (if often esoteric) Public Radio.
And how's THIS for timing?
Radio started mailing-it-in JUST AS new-tech enabled listeners to "become their own PD."
So AM/FM programming gropes-for-the-attention-of mentally-overwhelmed listeners, via the shtick I've been blasted-aplenty for describing as irresponsible (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/1930/10234) (http://getonthenet.com/dogwhistle-nts.pdf) (http://getonthenet.com/dogwhistle-boortz.mp3).
Shoot-the-messenger-if-you-will, but there's a disconnect.
We serve-up mud wrestling, and think-listeners-think it's "discourse?"
People aren't stupid.
Either are advertisers.
del_griffith said:
Don't feel sorry for NPR. Public Radio has been on-a-roll since de-reg-triggered untenable commercial loads at commercial stations, and newsroom firings and de-localized/voicetracked/otherwise-dumbed-down programming. And when the commercial copy writer got fired, copy on those too-many spots got worse. As commercial AM/FM got shlockier, listeners -- especially the Baby Boomers who are (a) such habitual radio users, and (b) control most of the USA's wealth -- began defecting to less-bogus (if often esoteric) Public Radio.
And how's THIS for timing?
Radio started mailing-it-in JUST AS new-tech enabled listeners to "become their own PD."
So AM/FM programming gropes-for-the-attention-of mentally-overwhelmed listeners, via the shtick I've been blasted-aplenty for describing as irresponsible (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/1930/10234) (http://getonthenet.com/dogwhistle-nts.pdf) (http://getonthenet.com/dogwhistle-boortz.mp3).
Shoot-the-messenger-if-you-will, but there's a disconnect.
We serve-up mud wrestling, and think-listeners-think it's "discourse?"
People aren't stupid.
Either are advertisers.
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ericdxx
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Holland Cooke: Wouldn't you agree that FM Talk needs a shining star in morning drive to be able to compete? A new Limbaugh or Howard Stern.
I just don't think Mancow is the answer.
I just don't think Mancow is the answer.
"The next..."
"The next Rush Limbaugh, the next Howard Stern?"
Given the financial pressure stations are under, the-availability-of a hot syndicated -- less-expensive-than-local -- morning talent would be attractive.
But WHO?
ericdxx said:
"The next Rush Limbaugh, the next Howard Stern?"
Given the financial pressure stations are under, the-availability-of a hot syndicated -- less-expensive-than-local -- morning talent would be attractive.
But WHO?
I liked your editorial in the daily KOS. You said it well.
(http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/1930/10234)
(http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/1930/10234)
Be careful! Be VERY careful....
Applauding consultants -- OR not-damning anything-critical-of Talk radio righties -- will get you shunned here quicker than an Amish guy with an iPhone!
Applauding consultants -- OR not-damning anything-critical-of Talk radio righties -- will get you shunned here quicker than an Amish guy with an iPhone!
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