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For WHOM the bell tolls...? It tolls for Dean-o

dave.ross said:
Sorry Bill, NOT THAT DAVE!!!!......Im Not even in New England! I do however work in a top 10 market! Oh and Jeff, Its all fun and games buddy....I'm just in a higher market and tax bracket that you will ever be!

Let me go on record and say that this is the first time I've ever come close to flaming anybody on this forum. But dave.ross, I've got to say that your posted comments are the most tasteless I've ever read here.

Whatever you see in the morning when you look in the mirror sure can't be too pretty.

And if you really do work in Tampa and think that it's a Top 10 market... enjoy your delusion.

(Sorry, everyone else. I don't want to be negative, but this guy deserves it.)
 
Biff Barfington said:

Once upon a time, radio, much like the "Big 3" pretty much was the only game in town. Now there are many sources of entertainment/information to choose from, yet the available audience hasn't grown all that much. Guess what? The audience (and advertising dollar) pie is being divided more ways than ever. That means less money coming in and costs must be cut. The sad fact is that most dj's are (and always have been) pretty much background patter, only radio geeks like us care.
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Total audience listening is shrinking & TSL keeps trending down.
College kids (the next generation) hate radio.
We moved from a mass consumption top down programming model, to a time shifted, downloaded, deleted world. The listeners & viewers control and in some cases create their own content.

Traditional radio revenue, ad dollars are being shifted to new media because it offers advertisers accountability, results that can be tracked. While HD radio has stalled, wireless is moving forward and someday, wireless access will be standard equipment in every car. The morning show will be competing with some dude driving to work checking email, listening to internet streams and downloading mp3’s. And the onboard cpu will read your email text, and probaly pour your coffee.
hell it will be driving for you..

I agree the only people who care are radio geeks..
 
Pocket Radio

Excellent analysis! I would only add that if these radio companies had any smarts they would begin combining their broadcast operations with locally oriented web portal development.

Remember Polaroid? How could they have not seen digital photography coming?

Louie
 
Oldbones said:
Biff Barfington said:
Take a look at GM, pleading poverty and looking for a fat govenment handout. Well, they made their own bed by consistantly ignoring what American consumers want in a vehice and continually flooding the market with high markup SUV's and the like.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to recognize the market potential for fuel efficiency. The trend has have been evident for years. So how did GM respond to this sea change? By making plans to roll out another gas guzzling Hummer. No wonder the Japanese and Koreans are eating their lunch.


They weren't the only ones. For all the hype about Toyota, they've made some pretty boneheaded moves in the last few years too, from the needlessly-huge-but-still-prissy Tundra to their Hummer-wannabee PJ Cruiser to the general upsizing of most of their product line. Their sales are down about as much as GM's. The only thing that saves them is the myth that their vehicles are somehow better built.
Korean cars are crap, the only reason they sell is that they're cheap.

Your analogy is a good one though, even if my take on it is different than you perhaps intended. Once upon a time, radio, much like the "Big 3" pretty much was the only game in town. Now there are many sources of entertainment/information to choose from, yet the available audience hasn't grown all that much. Guess what? The audience (and advertising dollar) pie is being divided more ways than ever. That means less money coming in and costs must be cut. The sad fact is that most dj's are (and always have been) pretty much background patter, only radio geeks like us care.

The background patter comment may or may not be true, but hanging out with the listeners and getting out in public is how radio connects. With no jocks, who's going to be at the blood drives, the fairs, the occasional (haha) paid remote, the dare I say it, egg rides, pasta collections for local, er, I mean LOCAL food cupboards, or any other public service event that raises awareness and drives people to a particular frequency?

My question is rhetorical; I don't really expect answers, good or bad.
 
I never said i worked in tampa did I? Just cause I made a few comments about radio people in that market you people ASSUME I work in that market! Gee for all you people know i could be right down the pike in Boston or New York! Now I have been to Tampa, every year for vacation since i was a kid. As for picking on Jeff Parsons thats a no brainer!
 
dave.ross said:
I never said i worked in tampa did I? Just cause I made a few comments about radio people in that market you people ASSUME I work in that market! Gee for all you people know i could be right down the pike in Boston or New York! Now I have been to Tampa, every year for vacation since i was a kid. As for picking on Jeff Parsons thats a no brainer!

So Dave, if that's your real name, do they pay board ops any better in the major markets or are you just schleppinng for minimum wage?
 
Dave,

What has your knickers in such a knot over Jeff Parsons? What has he ever done to you that made you so angry to say such nonsense about him? I have never heard Jeff lisping in a newscast or in any production material. Not only is he a professional who helped carry a successful morning show for 10 years running, but he is a nice guy who will help anyone. I knew him on and off the air and know this to be the truth. Dave, I frankly resent people who spew venom on those they don't even know. If Jeff chooses to praise his program director as his mentor for guiding him to succeed, why do you care? I have had those same feelings for good PD's who have pushed me up to the next level; so I understand how he feels. 12 years is a good run in the Portland, Maine market and I commend Jeff's continued success and that of the Q-morning team with Merideth and (Lori who I have never met) but certainly adds to the show. I shall look forward to hearing them on my next visit back east.

Happy Thanksgiving all.


dave.ross said:
I never said i worked in tampa did I? Just cause I made a few comments about radio people in that market you people ASSUME I work in that market! Gee for all you people know i could be right down the pike in Boston or New York! Now I have been to Tampa, every year for vacation since i was a kid. As for picking on Jeff Parsons thats a no brainer!
 
I worked with Dean at WPNO in the early seventies as his news guy. While I was a total flake, Dean was the consummate professional. He pulled all the crap off the AP wire and sorted it for me so that I could breeze in ten seconds before my first newscast and have everything I needed to make the station sound great. Dean is a compassionate, caring individual who doesn't deserve to be fired or laid off or downsized or (insert your own euphemism here.) I feel badly for Dean and the many other pros who did their jobs to the best of their ability for many years while earning a mediocre wage, a minimum amount of respect and very little attention from senior management. Observing the state of radio today is a lot like watching the progress of an Alzheimer's victim -- the process is excruciatingly slow and death is absolutely certain.
 
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