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Ford Reconsiders, Now Keeping AM Radio

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I plugged in the USB because my phone was low on charge. Doing so automatically configured CarPlay, and went straight to Apple Maps (where I had a route in progress). I was never presented a "menu", only a side bar to place a phone call, use Apple Maps, or use Apple Music.

Without knowing which Toyota, I can't get too specific, but it sounds like a case of being unfamiliar with a rental car.

CarPlay likely came up as default because you had a route in progress. Somewhere either on the dash or the screen was a "home" button that would have taken you out of CarPlay and to the vehicle's default infotainment screen, where you could choose radio.

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Failing that, the eight white buttons (which is actually one big one) at the bottom of the sidebar take you to the main CarPlay menu:

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And in there is a "Toyota" app that also offers audio options.

There's also a "Home"button in the sidebar in that view (it may look different depending on the vehicle) that takes you back to a main screen.

One other note: the three apps in the sidebar are the most recently used. I know you've never used Apple Music---but it has to default somewhere, so it's designed to default to the three most common functions---phone, nav and music. If you were to use the Podcast or Audiobooks app, that would take the place of one of the other apps in the sidebar. Have Siri send or read a text message to you, and Messages would be in your last three on the sidebar, and so on.

I personally think farming out the car's infotainment to a phone is a terrible idea. Cars last a long time, and Apple and especially Google products do not.

Flaw in the logic: Very few people are keeping phones ten or more years. Most people get a new phone (especially people who have iPhones) every three to six years, and the software within---including CarPlay and the apps it makes available) are updated several times yearly while you own that phone. And there are firmware updates for it within the vehicle itself.

Compare that to whatever came with the vehicle when you bought it. You're light years ahead by having the phone and its updates.
 

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To be fair, the automakers own software products don't last long or age well. For example, have you tried using a built in GPS/maps system in a 10-15 year old vehicle? It is so slow and dated it is practically unusable.
No. Anyone who bought a car with built in GPS/maps made a costly mistake.

Without knowing which Toyota, I can't get too specific, but it sounds like a case of being unfamiliar with a rental car.
For sure -- and the help at Toyota.com being utterly worthless.

Flaw in the logic: Very few people are keeping phones ten or more years. Most people get a new phone (especially people who have iPhones) every three to six years, and the software within---including CarPlay and the apps it makes available) are updated several times yearly while you own that phone. And there are firmware updates for it within the vehicle itself.
The updates are exactly the problem: The phones keep advancing, and the car does not. The odds are overwhelming that a 2018 F-150 will outlive the software support provided by Apple or Google, because no one who participates in the new car market will care that a 23 year old truck is no longer supported.
 
Without knowing which Toyota, I can't get too specific, but it sounds like a case of being unfamiliar with a rental car.

CarPlay likely came up as default because you had a route in progress. Somewhere either on the dash or the screen was a "home" button that would have taken you out of CarPlay and to the vehicle's default infotainment screen, where you could choose radio.

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Ever have that come up when you want to hear the Dionne Warwick (or Aretha Franklin) song and speak "Do You Know the Way to San Jose?" into the wrong device?
 
My first wife was, when I met her, Assistant Director of Elections in Maricopa County, Arizona. In 1988, they were rolling out machines that you would feed your ballot into on your way out the door, and they needed instructions in English and Spanish.

Unfortunately, what the sign actually said was "Before you leave, eat your ballot."
For many. many elections in CA, the mail-in ballot was called a "balota". The universal proper term is "papeleta". However, "pocho" Spanish spoken by later generation Mexican-Americans from the 40's and 50's when they anglicized spanish terms had "balota" for ballot. They called a roof a rufo, not a techo, for example. And tires were tiras, not llantas.

When I was programming KTNQ as Spanish talk, we made fun of this often. No change until around 2020.
 
Not to turn this into an issue of "Car and Driver", but here's a fun fact that was published by a few news organizations back in May; There are now supposedly only 3 new cars that cost $20k or less:

Here Are the Only 3 Cars You Can Buy New for $20,000 or Less​

Over the past several years, production has been slashed due to supply chain quagmires during the pandemic. JP Morgan (JPM) estimates car prices are up at least 30% from pre-pandemic levels, and in January 2023, car prices rose over 4% year-over-year. For reference, if you bought a new car in 2009, the average price was around $30,000.

Now, a new car runs you, on average, over $48,000 -- and that's before all the add-on fees.
As of May 2023, there are only three new vehicles that cost $20,000 or less.
They are:
Kia Rio subcompact sedan: starting at $17,875
Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback: starting at $17,340
Nissan Versa sedan: starting at $16,925
All three of these cars are small sedans with minimal cargo space and efficient gas mileage.
 
Not to turn this into an issue of "Car and Driver", but here's a fun fact that was published by a few news organizations back in May; There are now supposedly only 3 new cars that cost $20k or less:

Here Are the Only 3 Cars You Can Buy New for $20,000 or Less​


Those are probably it, if you want it to stay under $20,000 including destination.

Excluding destination, the Hyundai Venue is priced at $19,995. There's quite a bit available between $20k and $25k, though.

A lot is made of the average new car price being $48,000 (ish), but factor out luxury ($76k), full-size pickups ($65k), and EVs ($55k) and the average regular new car that most people buy (gasoline or hybrid sedan, crossover, minivan or coupe) winds up at $37,292.

So even in the $20,000-$25,000 range, you're in what's now bargain territory.
 
For many. many elections in CA, the mail-in ballot was called a "balota". The universal proper term is "papeleta". However, "pocho" Spanish spoken by later generation Mexican-Americans from the 40's and 50's when they anglicized spanish terms had "balota" for ballot. They called a roof a rufo, not a techo, for example. And tires were tiras, not llantas.

When I was programming KTNQ as Spanish talk, we made fun of this often. No change until around 2020.
See Mike, what did I say? You opened the espanol box.
 
The updates are exactly the problem: The phones keep advancing, and the car does not. The odds are overwhelming that a 2018 F-150 will outlive the software support provided by Apple or Google, because no one who participates in the new car market will care that a 23 year old truck is no longer supported.

Well, we're not that far down the road yet, so I can't say for sure---but we're nine and a half years in from the first cars with it.

Also, I was wrong in what I wrote earlier. There are no firmware updates for the vehicle. CarPlay either is or isn't in a vehicle and all updates are to CarPlay within the phone. So obsolescence on the vehicle end is not an issue.

Sorry for the confusion. I'll edit the initial post. (EDIT: Too late to edit the initial post)
 
¿ No bueno ?
With about 16,000,000 Hispanics in just California and over 65,000,000 in the US, that is pretty important. We are getting to the point where we'll start to see movements and legislation such as exist to protect francophones and their culture in Canada.
 
Those are probably it, if you want it to stay under $20,000 including destination.

Excluding destination, the Hyundai Venue is priced at $19,995. There's quite a bit available between $20k and $25k, though.

A lot is made of the average new car price being $48,000 (ish), but factor out luxury ($76k), full-size pickups ($65k), and EVs ($55k) and the average regular new car that most people buy (gasoline or hybrid sedan, crossover, minivan or coupe) winds up at $37,292.

So even in the $20,000-$25,000 range, you're in what's now bargain territory.
All things considered we shouldn't be due for another vehicle purchase for a few more years, but it'll be interesting to see what we find when we start looking in earnest. Aside from my last car which I bought new as I was going for the best possible MPG rating in class as well as some specific options with the in-dash infotainment system, our last few vehicles have been CarMax purchases and I've had good luck there. We've been able to find a few sweet deals on gently used cars there with low mileage that were in good condition and most of the original factory warranty was transferable to us when we bought them. It seems that in some cases they were able to locate gently used vehicles that were bought new and then turned in quickly due to buyers' remorse...The original owners decided they wanted something bigger for the size of their family, they wanted something more powerful for towing, etc.

That said, those experiences were pre-covid. In recent months the car buying game has changed multiple times over, for various reasons.
 
Mais Ouïs, mon ami---but those guys don't speak French.
I'm going to be pedantic here, but you don't need the tréma on "oui" - and it should be spelled either "oui" or "ouais", the latter being equivalent to "yeah".
 
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