If you could put a station on the either Cincinnati and Dayton, what format would you put on it and what holes are there that you think would do well?
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Format holes in the Cincinnati and Dayton Markets?
- Thread starter richstrunck
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1.) Classic county (FM) - WNKR and WBZI doesn't should not really count since they are on the "fringe" of the markets core population.
2.) Jazz, like the Real Jazz channel on Sirius/XM
Since it seems the going trend is to take LPFM and give it to the likes of Clear Channel, then at least program something that doesn't exist today in the market. We have way too much AC, Country, and Rock. What they have done with 100.7 and plans for 106.3 and 96.9 seem like redundant formats - ugh!
2.) Jazz, like the Real Jazz channel on Sirius/XM
Since it seems the going trend is to take LPFM and give it to the likes of Clear Channel, then at least program something that doesn't exist today in the market. We have way too much AC, Country, and Rock. What they have done with 100.7 and plans for 106.3 and 96.9 seem like redundant formats - ugh!
Yea agree to many duplicate formats. Love Cox radios Country Legends format in Houston and Louisville
I assume there is just not enough market since 97X died but I personally would like to see something like that. NKU comes close with some of their programming and I sorely miss picking up Radio Free Lakota - some of those kids had great tastes in music! With X, UC, Miami, NKU, C State - how can the market possibly not support one modern rock style station?
I actually think the market could sustain a niche formatted Alternative station. The Sound did fairly well for a while until the started messing with the frequencies of The Wolf and The Sound. I get a lot positive feedback on a Modern AC/ Alternative station. A fromat targeted at Males like that would continue hurt both EBN and 96 Rock however it would have to be done right!Upper90 said:I assume there is just not enough market since 97X died but I personally would like to see something like that. NKU comes close with some of their programming and I sorely miss picking up Radio Free Lakota - some of those kids had great tastes in music! With X, UC, Miami, NKU, C State - how can the market possibly not support one modern rock style station?
I was convinved after 96Rock would have done better as an FM talk but they didnt promote and didnt have a lot of local shows. If your gonna go talk in this market you better spend some money because the only way to beat WLW is to have mostly local content. Do what they do and do it better!
If Im Clear Channel I put Kiss on 102.7 next to Q then put EBN with on 107.1, tweek the format and if it doesnt work simulcast the Big One
With Cumulus launching a News format station in Atlanta, there are rumors that they may use the crew there to launch other News Stations where they think the format could work. I could see them launching a similar format here on one of their FM's, to take a few points from 700 WLW.
I think if you are going to do a FM talk format it should similar to what Cox just launched in Tampa on its former rock station 102.5 The Bone. They are using the Rock Jocks as talk hosts and it is skewing younger with non political topics than what WLW is in a rut doing. They may be #1 but I can only imagine how old their audience is which is way over 45+
I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as well.
I think if you are going to do a FM talk format it should similar to what Cox just launched in Tampa on its former rock station 102.5 The Bone. They are using the Rock Jocks as talk hosts and it is skewing younger with non political topics than what WLW is in a rut doing. They may be #1 but I can only imagine how old their audience is which is way over 45+
I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as well.
I like the idea of a "Hot Talk" station like "The Bone" in Tampa, I also like the idea of an all news station, however its can be very costly, with a market the size of Cincinnati could it make it is the question.microbob said:With Cumulus launching a News format station in Atlanta, there are rumors that they may use the crew there to launch other News Stations where they think the format could work. I could see them launching a similar format here on one of their FM's, to take a few points from 700 WLW.
I think if you are going to do a FM talk format it should similar to what Cox just launched in Tampa on its former rock station 102.5 The Bone. They are using the Rock Jocks as talk hosts and it is skewing younger with non political topics than what WLW is in a rut doing. They may be #1 but I can only imagine how old their audience is which is way over 45+
I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as wel
microbob said:I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as well.
A Legacy Clear Channel 50Kw station and the repeater use would be for?????
Maybe with a all news format targeted to the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky/Dayton-Springfield metro could work? That's a 3.2+ million population radius which aligns to upcoming plans to combine Cincinnati/Dayton into one MSA. Too bad 105.9 got snagged by Northern Kentucky University - a great FM signal covering a large area of the Tri-State.richstrunck said:I like the idea of a "Hot Talk" station like "The Bone" in Tampa, I also like the idea of an all news station, however its can be very costly, with a market the size of Cincinnati could it make it is the question.microbob said:With Cumulus launching a News format station in Atlanta, there are rumors that they may use the crew there to launch other News Stations where they think the format could work. I could see them launching a similar format here on one of their FM's, to take a few points from 700 WLW.
I think if you are going to do a FM talk format it should similar to what Cox just launched in Tampa on its former rock station 102.5 The Bone. They are using the Rock Jocks as talk hosts and it is skewing younger with non political topics than what WLW is in a rut doing. They may be #1 but I can only imagine how old their audience is which is way over 45+
I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as wel
microbob said:WSB in Atlanta comes to mind which simulcasts on 95.5 FM.
North Georgia Has just about the worst soil conductivity anywhere. I live about sixty miles north of the Peachtree & Marietta street intersection. Only 680 WCNN (daytime) will stop scan on my car radio (AM band). Not 750 or 640. At night, 1530 has less interference most of the time than 750. 95.5 covers the conservative northern suburbs. 95.5 was not doing very well when it was a CHR / Rap for white kids. It is rumored that WSB only had to increase their rates around $11 or $12 per commercial to recover the 95.5 revenue lost buy putting WSB on 95.5. Which they did.
CC had WGST on 105.7 and they still could not dethrone WSB in the conservative talk game. If you look at some of the News Talk operations that really got a big bump in the rating when they added FM the AM did not have a great signal. WTOP in DC's old 1500 AM did not cover the Eastern Washington Suburbs at night.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFED&service=AM&status=L&hours=N
Not all markets are the same your mileage will vary.
microbob said:To provide a static free signal during thunder storms and in areas where there is a lot of inference on the AM band. There are a few 50k AM signals that are simulcasting on FM. WSB in Atlanta comes to mind which simulcasts on 95.5 FM.
If it's such a bad signal, why is it the EAS Primary? 90 year strong signal and we should put it on a repeater for .00001% severe weather. Better yet, if there is that much concern, CC could just pre-empt one of their fulltime FM and simulcast the severe weather coverage. Oh wait, yesterday, at the beginning of the severe weather, Tracy Jones was discussing boners. Yup, that's Marconi award broadcasting. And then the newscast was interrupted by a tornado warning. Did they stay with wall to wall coverage? Nope, back to Boner talk with the Joneser.
Ive thought of same possibility. The merger was planned by the Census Bureau in 2013. It will be the nations thirteen Largest MSA in the country. Will be interesting to see how this pans out, how Arbitron handles this I suppose they'll do what they do in Cleveland and Akron, 2 seperate Markets. Like the news idea but yes it would have to target both Markets. Mmmm just wondering if the stations in these Markets will try to move there towers between Both cities, would be almost impossible with FCC regulation.ncincy1 said:Maybe with a all news format targeted to the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky/Dayton-Springfield metro could work? That's a 3.2+ million population radius which aligns to upcoming plans to combine Cincinnati/Dayton into one MSA. Too bad 105.9 got snagged by Northern Kentucky University - a great FM signal covering a large area of the Tri-State.richstrunck said:I like the idea of a "Hot Talk" station like "The Bone" in Tampa, I also like the idea of an all news station, however its can be very costly, with a market the size of Cincinnati could it make it is the question.microbob said:With Cumulus launching a News format station in Atlanta, there are rumors that they may use the crew there to launch other News Stations where they think the format could work. I could see them launching a similar format here on one of their FM's, to take a few points from 700 WLW.
I think if you are going to do a FM talk format it should similar to what Cox just launched in Tampa on its former rock station 102.5 The Bone. They are using the Rock Jocks as talk hosts and it is skewing younger with non political topics than what WLW is in a rut doing. They may be #1 but I can only imagine how old their audience is which is way over 45+
I like the idea of Kiss and WEBN swaping frequencies. Maybe use 100.7 as a WLW repeater as wel
Class B's would have a hard time covering such a market when you consider the terrain. B's barely cover Chicago and that is very flat terrain. Coverage issues could be fixed if they "upgraded" a bunch of the B's to C1 or C0. That would be only possible if the FCC totally does away with "3rd" channel protection of C's, and whole bunch translators and class D's and several Class A go away. I will bet you that does not happen.
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