Well, it looks like Fly 92.1 took off well, as expected. GOOD JOB! But I'm suprised it didn't take a bigger bite out of Z96, esp how they are pretty conservative during the day. But all I've seen are 12+. AND, what happened to MIX 103.1?? They had a nice jump last book, but where did the listeners go this time? Any comments??
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Fort Walton Beach Numbers
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wooten
Guest
WILN, WPFM and WYYX out of Panama City usually make a showing in the Fort Walton Beach book but are nowhere to be found this book. WPAP and WFSY from Panama City showed up with their usual numbers.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by interloper on 08/03/05 11:23 PM.</FONT></P>
B
bigsteve1
Guest
> WILN, WPFM and WYYX out of Panama City usually make a
> showing in the Fort Walton Beach book but are nowhere to be
> found this book. WPAP and WFSY from Panama City showed up
> with their usual numbers.
Really the only station of the first 3 with a big enough stick to show up is WPFM. If I recall it has been awhile since WILN or WYYX showed up. Plus with addition if another top 40 type station I think it would be a long shot for WPFM or WILN
>
> showing in the Fort Walton Beach book but are nowhere to be
> found this book. WPAP and WFSY from Panama City showed up
> with their usual numbers.
Really the only station of the first 3 with a big enough stick to show up is WPFM. If I recall it has been awhile since WILN or WYYX showed up. Plus with addition if another top 40 type station I think it would be a long shot for WPFM or WILN
>
> > WILN, WPFM and WYYX out of Panama City usually make a
> > showing in the Fort Walton Beach book but are nowhere to
> be
> > found this book. WPAP and WFSY from Panama City showed up
> > with their usual numbers.
>
> Really the only station of the first 3 with a big enough
> stick to show up is WPFM. If I recall it has been awhile
> since WILN or WYYX showed up. Plus with addition if another
> top 40 type station I think it would be a long shot for WPFM
> or WILN
> >
>
Those fringe signals really only show up when diaries fall to the
East of Destin. They all come in about the same to Sandestin.
Although, I think the fact that WPFM is obviously a disaster,
as is Island (to a degree) may make some difference.
WPAP showing up is rare. Sunny shows up on and off.
Same thing happens with the books when they fall heavier
in the west from Pensacola stations showing up.
Why is WTKE still Sports talk? Most AM Sports talk stations
have better ratings without a 98kw stick.
Oh yeah, I don't seem to see any numbers coming in from
The damn Gator in J-ville? Anyone know why>>>???<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by tibbs on 08/04/05 04:15 AM.</FONT></P>
> > showing in the Fort Walton Beach book but are nowhere to
> be
> > found this book. WPAP and WFSY from Panama City showed up
> > with their usual numbers.
>
> Really the only station of the first 3 with a big enough
> stick to show up is WPFM. If I recall it has been awhile
> since WILN or WYYX showed up. Plus with addition if another
> top 40 type station I think it would be a long shot for WPFM
> or WILN
> >
>
Those fringe signals really only show up when diaries fall to the
East of Destin. They all come in about the same to Sandestin.
Although, I think the fact that WPFM is obviously a disaster,
as is Island (to a degree) may make some difference.
WPAP showing up is rare. Sunny shows up on and off.
Same thing happens with the books when they fall heavier
in the west from Pensacola stations showing up.
Why is WTKE still Sports talk? Most AM Sports talk stations
have better ratings without a 98kw stick.
Oh yeah, I don't seem to see any numbers coming in from
The damn Gator in J-ville? Anyone know why>>>???<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by tibbs on 08/04/05 04:15 AM.</FONT></P>
B
BHolmes
Guest
> Those fringe signals really only show up when diaries fall
> to the
> East of Destin. They all come in about the same to
> Sandestin.
Actually, no books fall east of Destin at all. Okaloosa County is the ONLY county in the Ft Walton Beach metro. Walton County SHOULD be included but is not.
> Why is WTKE still Sports talk? Most AM Sports talk stations
> have better ratings without a 98kw stick.
WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new Country 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting it on 105.5.
I'm not a sports fan but those around my building who are sports fan don't like the programming on 98.1 and listen to the AM sports stations more (1120 and 1430 I think).<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> to the
> East of Destin. They all come in about the same to
> Sandestin.
Actually, no books fall east of Destin at all. Okaloosa County is the ONLY county in the Ft Walton Beach metro. Walton County SHOULD be included but is not.
> Why is WTKE still Sports talk? Most AM Sports talk stations
> have better ratings without a 98kw stick.
WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new Country 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting it on 105.5.
I'm not a sports fan but those around my building who are sports fan don't like the programming on 98.1 and listen to the AM sports stations more (1120 and 1430 I think).<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
B
BHolmes
Guest
> Well, it looks like Fly 92.1 took off well, as expected.
> GOOD JOB! But I'm suprised it didn't take a bigger bite out
> of Z96, esp how they are pretty conservative during the day.
> But all I've seen are 12+. AND, what happened to MIX 103.1??
> They had a nice jump last book, but where did the listeners
> go this time? Any comments??
>
We did take off very well. We were very pleased with Fly. We went on the air only TWO WEEKS before the book began. So the ratings reflect our actual first 90 days on the air. Overall Fly was #4 12+ and #1 18-24 (tied with Z96). (The gloat section) Afternoons on Fly were #2 12+, #2 18-24, #3 18-34.
(I'm hoping the rules allow me to list rank like that. I recall us not being allowed to put actual shares down).
Two things made us scratch our heads:
- Even with our huge entrance into the market, Z96 managed to still go UP.
- WBLX out of Mobile has some unusually large numbers now in the younger demos only. This MUST be from diary confusion. We think those listening to us on 92.1 may just be writing 92 with BLX getting some credit for that (they are on 92.9 even though they are CALLED 93BLX). Everyone I know around here calls them 92.9, never 93.
I have no answer for the Mix 103.1 thing.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by BHolmes on 08/04/05 11:33 PM.</FONT></P>
> GOOD JOB! But I'm suprised it didn't take a bigger bite out
> of Z96, esp how they are pretty conservative during the day.
> But all I've seen are 12+. AND, what happened to MIX 103.1??
> They had a nice jump last book, but where did the listeners
> go this time? Any comments??
>
We did take off very well. We were very pleased with Fly. We went on the air only TWO WEEKS before the book began. So the ratings reflect our actual first 90 days on the air. Overall Fly was #4 12+ and #1 18-24 (tied with Z96). (The gloat section) Afternoons on Fly were #2 12+, #2 18-24, #3 18-34.
(I'm hoping the rules allow me to list rank like that. I recall us not being allowed to put actual shares down).
Two things made us scratch our heads:
- Even with our huge entrance into the market, Z96 managed to still go UP.
- WBLX out of Mobile has some unusually large numbers now in the younger demos only. This MUST be from diary confusion. We think those listening to us on 92.1 may just be writing 92 with BLX getting some credit for that (they are on 92.9 even though they are CALLED 93BLX). Everyone I know around here calls them 92.9, never 93.
I have no answer for the Mix 103.1 thing.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by BHolmes on 08/04/05 11:33 PM.</FONT></P>
> WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new Country
> 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency
> swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The
> Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
> it on 105.5.
So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been approved?<P ID="signature">______________
There's nothing to see here.</P>
> 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency
> swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The
> Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
> it on 105.5.
So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been approved?<P ID="signature">______________
There's nothing to see here.</P>
B
BHolmes
Guest
> > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been
> approved?
>
No i don't believe it has but the Cumulus FWB sales staff is already saying it's a done deal to clients.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been
> approved?
>
No i don't believe it has but the Cumulus FWB sales staff is already saying it's a done deal to clients.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
P
Part-timer
Guest
> > Well, it looks like Fly 92.1 took off well, as expected.
> Two things made us scratch our heads:
> - Even with our huge entrance into the market, Z96 managed
> to still go UP.
> - WBLX out of Mobile has some unusually large numbers now in
> the younger demos only. This MUST be from diary confusion.
> We think those listening to us on 92.1 may just be writing
> 92 with BLX getting some credit for that (they are on 92.9
> even though they are CALLED 93BLX). Everyone I know around
> here calls them 92.9, never 93.
I believe that if they just write down 92, each station gets half the credit. A new CHR usually stirs up cume at the competitor as well. I bet Z's TSL wasn't up.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
> Two things made us scratch our heads:
> - Even with our huge entrance into the market, Z96 managed
> to still go UP.
> - WBLX out of Mobile has some unusually large numbers now in
> the younger demos only. This MUST be from diary confusion.
> We think those listening to us on 92.1 may just be writing
> 92 with BLX getting some credit for that (they are on 92.9
> even though they are CALLED 93BLX). Everyone I know around
> here calls them 92.9, never 93.
I believe that if they just write down 92, each station gets half the credit. A new CHR usually stirs up cume at the competitor as well. I bet Z's TSL wasn't up.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
> WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new Country
> 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency
> swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The
> Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
> it on 105.5.
Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at all), but what is the K-Rock format?
> 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned frequency
> swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1 The
> Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
> it on 105.5.
Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at all), but what is the K-Rock format?
B
BHolmes
Guest
> > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at
> all), but what is the K-Rock format?
>
The format on 92.1 when Qantum bought it was classic rock. Call letters were WWRK and it was called K-Rock.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at
> all), but what is the K-Rock format?
>
The format on 92.1 when Qantum bought it was classic rock. Call letters were WWRK and it was called K-Rock.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/afternoons - Fly 92-1 Ft Walton Beach
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at
> all), but what is the K-Rock format?
>
If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but they are loyal.
> Country
> > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> frequency
> > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
> > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
> The
> > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and putting
>
> > it on 105.5.
>
> Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola at
> all), but what is the K-Rock format?
>
If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but they are loyal.
Coast 100.3
> If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a
> sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't
> pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of
> Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but
> they are loyal.
>
100.3 puts a useable signal into south Santa Rosa county and Pensacola. Seek and scan on a car radio will usually stop on it. Maybe that'll be good enough for a non-music station to get listeners in Pensacola.
> If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a
> sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't
> pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of
> Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but
> they are loyal.
>
100.3 puts a useable signal into south Santa Rosa county and Pensacola. Seek and scan on a car radio will usually stop on it. Maybe that'll be good enough for a non-music station to get listeners in Pensacola.
B
BHolmes
Guest
> > > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> > Country
> > > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> > frequency
> > > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
>
> > > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
>
> > The
> > > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and
> putting
> >
> > > it on 105.5.
> >
> > Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola
> at
> > all), but what is the K-Rock format?
> >
> If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a
> sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't
> pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of
> Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but
> they are loyal.
>
I have to be honest, the sound quality of the product coming from 98.1 sounds like a really BAD AM on FM anyways.
And the guy selling WTKE doesnt care about Pensacola. He can barely sell any spots for it in Ft Walton Beach.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
> > Country
> > > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> > frequency
> > > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
>
> > > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
>
> > The
> > > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and
> putting
> >
> > > it on 105.5.
> >
> > Not that it really matters (105.5 doesn't reach Pensacola
> at
> > all), but what is the K-Rock format?
> >
> If The Ticket moves to 100.3, isn't that gonna freeze out a
> sizable chunk of their audience in Pensacola? 100.3 doesn't
> pick up well in Escambia (or for that matter in much of
> Santa Rosa) TKE's listeners may not be great in numbers, but
> they are loyal.
>
I have to be honest, the sound quality of the product coming from 98.1 sounds like a really BAD AM on FM anyways.
And the guy selling WTKE doesnt care about Pensacola. He can barely sell any spots for it in Ft Walton Beach.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P>
G
Groove1670
Guest
Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
So does this mean the powerpig country format and staff in Evergreen is history
> > > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> > Country
> > > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> > frequency
> > > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
>
> > > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
>
> > The
> > > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and
> putting
> >
> > > it on 105.5.
> >
> > So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been
> > approved?
> >
>
> No i don't believe it has but the Cumulus FWB sales staff is
> already saying it's a done deal to clients.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Singer Songwriter radio... musiconradio.com</P>
So does this mean the powerpig country format and staff in Evergreen is history
> > > WTKE will stay sports talk until it becomes the new
> > Country
> > > 98.1 when Cumulus takes it over. With the planned
> > frequency
> > > swap planned between Star Broadcasting and Cumulus Coast
>
> > > 100.3 will also become Coast 93.3, while Sportradio 98.1
>
> > The
> > > Ticket moves to 100.3 and from what we hear, Star is
> > > bringing the K-Rock format back from the grave and
> putting
> >
> > > it on 105.5.
> >
> > So that means the WPGG-FM move to the coast has been
> > approved?
> >
>
> No i don't believe it has but the Cumulus FWB sales staff is
> already saying it's a done deal to clients.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Singer Songwriter radio... musiconradio.com</P>
Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
> So does this mean the powerpig country format and staff in
> Evergreen is history
Probably so. They'd be leaving the boonies for the Florida coast, and could bill in a rated market. Not a bad move if the FCC okays it.
Star Broadcasting also bought WFXX 107.7 in Georgiana, AL, didn't they? So that might be a replacement, but I'm not sure they can upgrade it to match the old 93.3 FM.
Could an approved WPGG move pave the way for a new sign on in South Alabama?<P ID="signature">______________
There's nothing to see here.</P>
> So does this mean the powerpig country format and staff in
> Evergreen is history
Probably so. They'd be leaving the boonies for the Florida coast, and could bill in a rated market. Not a bad move if the FCC okays it.
Star Broadcasting also bought WFXX 107.7 in Georgiana, AL, didn't they? So that might be a replacement, but I'm not sure they can upgrade it to match the old 93.3 FM.
Could an approved WPGG move pave the way for a new sign on in South Alabama?<P ID="signature">______________
There's nothing to see here.</P>
Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5 and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I can remember him planning this right after he bought
K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5 and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I can remember him planning this right after he bought
K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
B
Braswell
Guest
Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
> Star Broadcasting also bought WFXX 107.7 in Georgiana, AL,
> didn't they?
No...Star did not buy WFXX. The had it LMA'd for a while, with a contract to purchase. Apparently, something went wrong, and the LMA ended, as did the proposed purchase.<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
> Star Broadcasting also bought WFXX 107.7 in Georgiana, AL,
> didn't they?
No...Star did not buy WFXX. The had it LMA'd for a while, with a contract to purchase. Apparently, something went wrong, and the LMA ended, as did the proposed purchase.<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
B
BHolmes
Guest
Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
> I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this
> entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5
> and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I
> can remember him planning this right after he bought
> K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
>
I don't think Ron deserves any credit. Now I'll admit I've never met the man but I never heard a good word about the guy in this community.
Ron had a deal to sell 98.1 to Qantum and backed out even after the papers were mostly signed (look at the WTKE file on recnet.com, you'll see things were in the process). Lawyers are still involved.
Dont give him credit til it's all done. And even then, it was mostly through shady buisness deals from what I saw and heard.<P ID="signature">______________
-brian holmes
APD/nights - 104.5 WSNX Grand Rapids
weekends - 92.5 KISS FM Toledo
Owner/Webmaster - www.ThePowerPig.com - Tribute to WFLZ/Tampa & www.Q105TampaBay.com - Tribute to WRBQ/Tampa</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by BHolmes on 08/08/05 05:41 PM.</FONT></P>
> I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this
> entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5
> and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I
> can remember him planning this right after he bought
> K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
>
I don't think Ron deserves any credit. Now I'll admit I've never met the man but I never heard a good word about the guy in this community.
Ron had a deal to sell 98.1 to Qantum and backed out even after the papers were mostly signed (look at the WTKE file on recnet.com, you'll see things were in the process). Lawyers are still involved.
Dont give him credit til it's all done. And even then, it was mostly through shady buisness deals from what I saw and heard.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Fort Walton Beach Move-swap
> > I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this
> > entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5
>
> > and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I
> > can remember him planning this right after he bought
> > K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
> >
>
> I don't think Ron deserves any credit. Now I'll admit I've
> never met the man but I never heard a good word about the
> guy in this community.
>
> Ron had a deal to sell 98.1 to Qantum and backed out even
> after the papers were mostly signed (look at the WTKE file
> on recnet.com, you'll see things were in the process).
> Lawyers are still involved.
>
> Dont give him credit til it's all done. And even then, it
> was mostly through shady buisness deals from what I saw and
> heard.
BH:
I was wondering. Thought maybe he had turned over a new leaf.
I stand corrected. I have dealt with him. He hasn't changed, I guess.
How he has pulled any of this off is amazing. But not as in impressive.
I'll leave it at that.
> > I have to give Ron Hale serious credit for pulling this
> > entire swap/upgrade deal off. Does he basically gets 105.5
>
> > and 100.3 for nothing after Crumulus forks up the cash? I
> > can remember him planning this right after he bought
> > K-92.1 (now Fly.) Patience and persistance pays off, huh?
> >
>
> I don't think Ron deserves any credit. Now I'll admit I've
> never met the man but I never heard a good word about the
> guy in this community.
>
> Ron had a deal to sell 98.1 to Qantum and backed out even
> after the papers were mostly signed (look at the WTKE file
> on recnet.com, you'll see things were in the process).
> Lawyers are still involved.
>
> Dont give him credit til it's all done. And even then, it
> was mostly through shady buisness deals from what I saw and
> heard.
BH:
I was wondering. Thought maybe he had turned over a new leaf.
I stand corrected. I have dealt with him. He hasn't changed, I guess.
How he has pulled any of this off is amazing. But not as in impressive.
I'll leave it at that.
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