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Fox 64 Beaumont

Fox 29 is in Lake Charles. Fox 64 is Beaumont. A few years ago they decided to start 64 because of the conflict of showing Cowboys and Saints games.
 
JoesBros81 said:
Fox 29 is in Lake Charles. Fox 64 is Beaumont. A few years ago they decided to start 64 because of the conflict of showing Cowboys and Saints games.

IIRC, they put 64 on the air because its licensed to Beaumont and thus falls under "Must Carry" rules so Time Warner HAD to carry it....29 is licensed to Lake Charles and is not a "must carry" signal for the BPT area.
They also have KHVP-LP 66 in Jasper as well (both 64 and 66 fed via same satellite transponder)....their new Low Power digital on 51 will be closer to Orange than Beaumont and not far from their main tower in Edgerly where their main digital, now on 30 at their studio tower in Lake Charles, will eventually be...but since 51 is licensed to Beaumont, TWC will have to carry it as well (after analog sunset).
 
yragha said:
I'm out of the loop so... when did Fox move to 64 from 29?

Thanks

Several years ago...originally, it was a LPTV satellite. Calls are KUIL-LP. As for the original post, KVHP has http://www.myfoxlakecharles.com now.
 
IIRC, they put 64 on the air because its licensed to Beaumont and thus falls under "Must Carry" rules so Time Warner HAD to carry it....29 is licensed to Lake Charles and is not a "must carry" signal for the BPT area.
I thought low power stations didn't fall under the "must carry" rules??
 
silverthree said:
I thought low power stations didn't fall under the "must carry" rules??

They don't -- LPTVs are not eligible for the "must carry" protections available to regular stations. Apparently, KVHP had done some enticing with the cable systems to switch to KUIL.
 
azumanga said:
silverthree said:
I thought low power stations didn't fall under the "must carry" rules??

They don't -- LPTVs are not eligible for the "must carry" protections available to regular stations. Apparently, KVHP had done some enticing with the cable systems to switch to KUIL.

That's not strictly true - in some cases LPTVs are eligible for must-carry.

I don't think KUIL falls into any of those cases though.

My guess is KVHP opted out of must-carry, demanded cable companies compensate them in return for the right to carry KVHP, and then told the systems they could carry for free if they carried KUIL instead of KVHP.

But that's just a guess.
 
w9wi said:
That's not strictly true - in some cases LPTVs are eligible for must-carry.

That's what I thought. KCAB-LP 28 Casa Grande AZ claims that it invoked must-carry back when it was still K47FW. I think that was in 1999, when the station began broadcasting.
 
dhett said:
w9wi said:
That's not strictly true - in some cases LPTVs are eligible for must-carry.

That's what I thought. KCAB-LP 28 Casa Grande AZ claims that it invoked must-carry back when it was still K47FW. I think that was in 1999, when the station began broadcasting.

I finally had an opportunity to look up that regulation.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000534----000-.html

A cable system *may* be required to carry as many as two LPTVs if those LPTVs:
  • Meet various progamming requirements established for full-power stations - children's programming, minimum hours of operation, issues of local importance, etc.
  • Due to distance, no full-power station provides adequate local information in the LPTV's service area - and the LPTV does.
  • The LPTV is within 35 miles of the cable head-end and provides a signal of adequate quality.
  • Both the LPTV's city-of-license and the cable franchise area fall outside the largest 160 metropolitan areas.
  • The population of the LPTV's city-of-license is no more than 35,000.
  • No full-power station is licensed to any community in the same county as the cable system.

*May* be required, because a system is not required to use more than a third of its channel capacity for must-carry stations, and full-power operations get first priority.

Obviously KUIL fails on points 4, 5, and 6 above. KCAB doesn't (unless Casa Grande has grown to above 35,000?). (it's possible KCAB fails on one or more of the first 3 points though)
 
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