Fox enters Charlotte...

[tmanokc]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

 

[Sammi Brie]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

 

[dave73]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

 

[crackedscreen]

Will WCCB be carrying The CW's Saturday morning cartoon block?

 

[desertv]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

Yuma/El Centro has a total pop of over 100k, not that small

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[Sammi Brie]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

Yuma/El Centro has a total pop of over 100k, not that small

It's DMA #165. Comparatively, it's small (it's in the bottom 25% of all DMAs).

 

[FightingIrish]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

WIWN is a joke. Apparently, they broadcast on RF ch. 5 from the MPTV site, which is less than ten miles from where I live. Yet, I have tried everything to pick it up and have never been able to. Weigel's LP stations come in better than WIWN does. So who exactly is Pappas directing this station toward?

 

[dave73]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

WIWN is a joke. Apparently, they broadcast on RF ch. 5 from the MPTV site, which is less than ten miles from where I live. Yet, I have tried everything to pick it up and have never been able to. Weigel's LP stations come in better than WIWN does. So who exactly is Pappas directing this station toward?

Do you have an old-fashion outdoor element antenna optimized for 2-6? If it's not that type of antenna, then you're not gonna get it, no matter what other type of antenna you have. That's part of the problem with VHF-Lo. Similar complaints come up about not being able to receive WMVS's VHF signal on RF 8. There's also a difference with Weigel's LPTV stations, they're on UHF, & most of those antennas sold in stores are optimized for UHF (including rabbit ears). Weigel did have either then WMLW-LD (now WBME-CD) or WYTU-LD on RF 13 for a while at 300 watts. I'm sure no one was getting it, except for those with amplified antennas. I have to have my VHF antenna (Antennacraft CS600) amplified in order to get WOCK-CD on RF 4, & the antenna up high enough to pick it up, or it doesn't come in at all. As for who Pappas is marketing this toward; I don't know who they're marketing to which group of people. Maybe they have it on for the purpose of selling the station (loses value if it's not on the air). Like I said, eventual must carry status will create problems with carrying it on satellite, as the FCC allowed a Green Bay area station (licensed to Fond Du Lac) to move into Milwaukee, WIWN is the only TV station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & satellite can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package. All full power stations in the Green Bay market that cover Green Bay, except for 2, are licensed to Green Bay (WCWF licensed to Suring, & WACY-TV licensed to Appleton). Under WWAZ, their old coverage was always over the southern portion of the Green Bay market, & over the northern part of the Milwaukee market, never to cover Green Bay or Milwaukee.

 

[nelsonincharlotte]

Will WCCB be carrying The CW's Saturday morning cartoon block?

They sure will be.

 

[FightingIrish]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

WIWN is a joke. Apparently, they broadcast on RF ch. 5 from the MPTV site, which is less than ten miles from where I live. Yet, I have tried everything to pick it up and have never been able to. Weigel's LP stations come in better than WIWN does. So who exactly is Pappas directing this station toward?

Do you have an old-fashion outdoor element antenna optimized for 2-6? If it's not that type of antenna, then you're not gonna get it, no matter what other type of antenna you have. That's part of the problem with VHF-Lo. Similar complaints come up about not being able to receive WMVS's VHF signal on RF 8. There's also a difference with Weigel's LPTV stations, they're on UHF, & most of those antennas sold in stores are optimized for UHF (including rabbit ears). Weigel did have either then WMLW-LD (now WBME-CD) or WYTU-LD on RF 13 for a while at 300 watts. I'm sure no one was getting it, except for those with amplified antennas. I have to have my VHF antenna (Antennacraft CS600) amplified in order to get WOCK-CD on RF 4, & the antenna up high enough to pick it up, or it doesn't come in at all. As for who Pappas is marketing this toward; I don't know who they're marketing to which group of people. Maybe they have it on for the purpose of selling the station (loses value if it's not on the air). Like I said, eventual must carry status will create problems with carrying it on satellite, as the FCC allowed a Green Bay area station (licensed to Fond Du Lac) to move into Milwaukee, WIWN is the only TV station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & satellite can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package. All full power stations in the Green Bay market that cover Green Bay, except for 2, are licensed to Green Bay (WCWF licensed to Suring, & WACY-TV licensed to Appleton). Under WWAZ, their old coverage was always over the southern portion of the Green Bay market, & over the northern part of the Milwaukee market, never to cover Green Bay or Milwaukee.

I don't have as rooftop antenna. But I can receive WMVT on RF Ch. 8 (they also have a LP translator on UHF to make up for reception issues, and I can receive those too). When WMLW was on 13.3, I could also receive them, though the signal was a bit spotty.

But let's be real. If WIWN actually wants people in Milwaukee to watch their station, they shouldn't make them jump through hoops to do so, especially since the all-weather format is already being done by subchannels of WTMJ and WMVT. If Pappas wants to pay Milwaukee rent on their transmitter to blast out 700,000 watts that viewers ten miles away from the transmitter can't even pick up, no wonder they're in the financial toilet. I always dreaded the idea of a crappy company like Pappas entering the Milwaukee market anyways.

 

[dave73]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

WIWN is a joke. Apparently, they broadcast on RF ch. 5 from the MPTV site, which is less than ten miles from where I live. Yet, I have tried everything to pick it up and have never been able to. Weigel's LP stations come in better than WIWN does. So who exactly is Pappas directing this station toward?

Do you have an old-fashion outdoor element antenna optimized for 2-6? If it's not that type of antenna, then you're not gonna get it, no matter what other type of antenna you have. That's part of the problem with VHF-Lo. Similar complaints come up about not being able to receive WMVS's VHF signal on RF 8. There's also a difference with Weigel's LPTV stations, they're on UHF, & most of those antennas sold in stores are optimized for UHF (including rabbit ears). Weigel did have either then WMLW-LD (now WBME-CD) or WYTU-LD on RF 13 for a while at 300 watts. I'm sure no one was getting it, except for those with amplified antennas. I have to have my VHF antenna (Antennacraft CS600) amplified in order to get WOCK-CD on RF 4, & the antenna up high enough to pick it up, or it doesn't come in at all. As for who Pappas is marketing this toward; I don't know who they're marketing to which group of people. Maybe they have it on for the purpose of selling the station (loses value if it's not on the air). Like I said, eventual must carry status will create problems with carrying it on satellite, as the FCC allowed a Green Bay area station (licensed to Fond Du Lac) to move into Milwaukee, WIWN is the only TV station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & satellite can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package. All full power stations in the Green Bay market that cover Green Bay, except for 2, are licensed to Green Bay (WCWF licensed to Suring, & WACY-TV licensed to Appleton). Under WWAZ, their old coverage was always over the southern portion of the Green Bay market, & over the northern part of the Milwaukee market, never to cover Green Bay or Milwaukee.

I don't have as rooftop antenna. But I can receive WMVT on RF Ch. 8 (they also have a LP translator on UHF to make up for reception issues, and I can receive those too). When WMLW was on 13.3, I could also receive them, though the signal was a bit spotty.

But let's be real. If WIWN actually wants people in Milwaukee to watch their station, they shouldn't make them jump through hoops to do so, especially since the all-weather format is already being done by subchannels of WTMJ and WMVT. If Pappas wants to pay Milwaukee rent on their transmitter to blast out 700,000 watts that viewers ten miles away from the transmitter can't even pick up, no wonder they're in the financial toilet. I always dreaded the idea of a crappy company like Pappas entering the Milwaukee market anyways.

You're not missing anything with Weather Nation. I get them on WOCK-CD 13.4 (RF 4), & see infomercials more than I see weather. As for your type of antenna, you simply won't get WIWN, or any station that might decide to go on RF 2 - 6, just because it requires long elements, & be outdoors. That's the reality for DTV on VHF-LO. BTW, WIWN is only broadcasting at 9kw (not sure what the limit is for full power on VHF-Lo, but VHF-Hi is currently at either 40kw or 50kw max. UHF is allowed at the most, 1000kw. For LPTV stations, VHF (both Low & High) is allowed only 3kw max. (used to be just 300 watts), & UHF at 15kw.

 

[Jim]

Actually, KCWI in Des Moines also produces its own newscast. Oddly, it consists only of a three-hour morning newscast, with no midday/early evening/primetime show. In fact, sitcoms are aired in the 9 p.m. slot after CW programming instead of a late newscast.

Of all stations, a CW affiliate owned by the post-bankruptcy wasteland that is Pappas? Would have never thought they would be airing a morning newscast.

In this world of media consolidation, most of the stations Pappas owns are fit for just spectrum speculators. About the only nice things they still have are a Spanish station in LA, some ABC and Fox stations in Nebraska and the CBS affiliate in tiny Yuma, Arizona. And that's it.

I don't know if Pappas still owns WIWN (formerly WWAZ) Fond Du Lac, WI. They were originally given RF 44 for their station, & was supposed to have the new antenna installed at the former site in Mayville, WI. Instead, they decided that they wanted to be a Milwaukee station, & have the channel changed to RF 5, & move the antenna to the Milwaukee antenna farm. Because of that channel switch, WLS-TV was able to take RF 44 in Chicago, & they knocked WCHU-LD off the air from RF 44 (WCHU-LD did end up going to RF 33, but now wants WLS-TV's former channel, RF 7). As for the now WIWN, they're carrying Weather Nation on the main channel. I still don't know how the FCC allowed this station to enter the Milwaukee market, while it's licensed to the Green Bay market. Whether this station shows anything worth watching or not, the fact is that if they invoked must carry, Direct TV & Dish Network can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package, as long it's licensed to the Green Bay market, & Fond Du Lac is in the Green Bay market.

WIWN is a joke. Apparently, they broadcast on RF ch. 5 from the MPTV site, which is less than ten miles from where I live. Yet, I have tried everything to pick it up and have never been able to. Weigel's LP stations come in better than WIWN does. So who exactly is Pappas directing this station toward?

Do you have an old-fashion outdoor element antenna optimized for 2-6? If it's not that type of antenna, then you're not gonna get it, no matter what other type of antenna you have. That's part of the problem with VHF-Lo. Similar complaints come up about not being able to receive WMVS's VHF signal on RF 8. There's also a difference with Weigel's LPTV stations, they're on UHF, & most of those antennas sold in stores are optimized for UHF (including rabbit ears). Weigel did have either then WMLW-LD (now WBME-CD) or WYTU-LD on RF 13 for a while at 300 watts. I'm sure no one was getting it, except for those with amplified antennas. I have to have my VHF antenna (Antennacraft CS600) amplified in order to get WOCK-CD on RF 4, & the antenna up high enough to pick it up, or it doesn't come in at all. As for who Pappas is marketing this toward; I don't know who they're marketing to which group of people. Maybe they have it on for the purpose of selling the station (loses value if it's not on the air). Like I said, eventual must carry status will create problems with carrying it on satellite, as the FCC allowed a Green Bay area station (licensed to Fond Du Lac) to move into Milwaukee, WIWN is the only TV station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & satellite can not add this station to the Milwaukee local channel package. All full power stations in the Green Bay market that cover Green Bay, except for 2, are licensed to Green Bay (WCWF licensed to Suring, & WACY-TV licensed to Appleton). Under WWAZ, their old coverage was always over the southern portion of the Green Bay market, & over the northern part of the Milwaukee market, never to cover Green Bay or Milwaukee.

I don't have as rooftop antenna. But I can receive WMVT on RF Ch. 8 (they also have a LP translator on UHF to make up for reception issues, and I can receive those too). When WMLW was on 13.3, I could also receive them, though the signal was a bit spotty.

But let's be real. If WIWN actually wants people in Milwaukee to watch their station, they shouldn't make them jump through hoops to do so, especially since the all-weather format is already being done by subchannels of WTMJ and WMVT. If Pappas wants to pay Milwaukee rent on their transmitter to blast out 700,000 watts that viewers ten miles away from the transmitter can't even pick up, no wonder they're in the financial toilet. I always dreaded the idea of a crappy company like Pappas entering the Milwaukee market anyways.

You're not missing anything with Weather Nation. I get them on WOCK-CD 13.4 (RF 4), & see infomercials more than I see weather. As for your type of antenna, you simply won't get WIWN, or any station that might decide to go on RF 2 - 6, just because it requires long elements, & be outdoors. That's the reality for DTV on VHF-LO. BTW, WIWN is only broadcasting at 9kw (not sure what the limit is for full power on VHF-Lo, but VHF-Hi is currently at either 40kw or 50kw max. UHF is allowed at the most, 1000kw. For LPTV stations, VHF (both Low & High) is allowed only 3kw max. (used to be just 300 watts), & UHF at 15kw.

WSAW-7 (RF-7) Wausau, WI broadcasts with 72kw @ 373 meters & WAOW-9 (RF-9) Wausau broadcasts with 63.2kw @ 368 meters. I think I've seen some VHF-Hi with power levels around 100kw as well.

 

[w9wi]

BTW, WIWN is only broadcasting at 9kw (not sure what the limit is for full power on VHF-Lo, but VHF-Hi is currently at either 40kw or 50kw max. UHF is allowed at the most, 1000kw. For LPTV stations, VHF (both Low & High) is allowed only 3kw max. (used to be just 300 watts), & UHF at 15kw.[/color]

VHF-Low maximum is 45kw, although in most cases low VHF stations are restricted by potential interference to much lower powers. (KHAS-TV Hastings, Nebraska is the only low-VHF station known to be operational at 45kw. Stations in Key West, Florida; Tuscaloosa, Alabama; and Rapid City, South Dakota have permits to operate at 45kw and may possibly be using that much power.)

VHF-High maximum is 160kw. Again, in most cases stations are actually restricted by interference to lower powers. KIII Corpus Christi is the only station known to be operating at 160kw; due to an interesting loophole in the regulations, WLJC-TV Beattyville, Kentucky is actually allowed to exceed the limit and holds a license-to-cover for 185kw. Ten stations hold permits to operate at 160kw.

I'm sure the point of WIWN is to achieve must-carry in Milwaukee.

 

[dave73]

WSAW-7 (RF-7) Wausau, WI broadcasts with 72kw @ 373 meters & WAOW-9 (RF-9) Wausau broadcasts with 63.2kw @ 368 meters. I think I've seen some VHF-Hi with power levels around 100kw as well.

Either the power requirements got increased, or they got exceptions. I know MPTV Milwaukee wants to boost WMVS's signal to 69kw. So far, it hasn't been looked at. I believe they're only at 25kw. They did get a UHF translator on WMVT's former analog channel of 36 to reach viewers in Milwaukee & Waukesha Counties (Racine County viewers may get interference from WJYS Hammond, IN, since their antenna is on the Sears Tower in Chicago, so they have to rely on the VHF signal). WBBM-TV can't go any higher without having to go directional (primarily to protect WINM Angola, IN). I know LPTV VHF had to be increased, since practically no one can get any LPTV VHF stations at only 300 watts (I barely get WOCK-CD on RF 4 @ 300 watts, & I'm using a pre-amp on my Antennacraft CS6010 antenna, 30 miles SE of Chicago)

I'm sure the point of WIWN is to achieve must-carry in Milwaukee.

As it stands, Pappas has a problem with that as far as must carry on satellite. They can probably achieve it on cable, since it usually relies on stations they can get OTA, while satellite can only carry stations that are licensed to specific DMA's. Since WIWN is licensed in the Green Bay market via Fond Du Lac, it can't be added on Milwaukee satellite packages. They would have to get the FCC to let them change their COL to one in the Milwaukee market to do so (again, they're the only station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & doubt any Green Bay station will change to Fond Du Lac to let WIWN change their COL to one in the Milwaukee DMA).

 

[w9wi]

Either the power requirements got increased, or they got exceptions. I know MPTV Milwaukee wants to boost WMVS's signal to 69kw. So far, it hasn't been looked at. I believe they're only at 25kw.

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WBBM-TV can't go any higher without having to go directional (primarily to protect WINM Angola, IN).

WMVS is licensed at 32kw. I think the 69kw application got dismissed but I'm not sure about that.

Your comment about WBBM vs. WINM explains why most VHF stations are running less than maximum power. The limit has always been 160kw for VHF-high but again, most stations are limited to something lower because of interference risks.

I'm sure the point of WIWN is to achieve must-carry in Milwaukee.

As it stands, Pappas has a problem with that as far as must carry on satellite. They can probably achieve it on cable, since it usually relies on stations they can get OTA, while satellite can only carry stations that are licensed to specific DMA's. Since WIWN is licensed in the Green Bay market via Fond Du Lac, it can't be added on Milwaukee satellite packages. They would have to get the FCC to let them change their COL to one in the Milwaukee market to do so (again, they're the only station licensed to Fond Du Lac, & doubt any Green Bay station will change to Fond Du Lac to let WIWN change their COL to one in the Milwaukee DMA).
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I'm sure must-carry on cable in Milwaukee is better than must-carry on both systems in Green Bay.

A Green Bay station might change its COL to Fond du Lac if its owners purchased WIWN.. and while it would be a long shot, such a move might make sense if the Green Bay station in question were WGBA and the owner in question Journal.

But again, that's a long shot.