FOX Television Stations (Owned and Operated)

[Markxxx]

Let's see the "real" channels

KTVU 2 (44, 48)
KRON 4 (38)
KPIX 5 (29)
KGO 7 (7, 35)
KNTV 11 (12)

 

[stewie]

Let's see the "real" channels

KTVU 2 (44, 48)
KRON 4 (38)
KPIX 5 (29)
KGO 7 (7, 35)
KNTV 11 (12)

Why two channels for some? ie: KTVU 2 (44, 48)

 

[Markxxx]

KTVU and KGO have fill in translators for San Jose.

 

[stewie]

KTVU and KGO have fill in translators for San Jose.

Interesting. What mountain tops are they located on? How does virtual mapping work if a setup can get both channels?

 

[ajc_trw]

KTVU and KGO have fill in translators for San Jose.

Interesting. What mountain tops are they located on? How does virtual mapping work if a setup can get both channels?

Years ago while living in Delaware I got into some serious DXing and was able to get both WCBS (2.1 NYC) and WMAR (2.1 Baltimore). On my STB it merely put both in the channel list and I was able to channel up/down to get both.

 

[dhett]

KTVU and KGO have fill in translators for San Jose.

Interesting. What mountain tops are they located on? How does virtual mapping work if a setup can get both channels?

Depends on your receiver. Using KTVU as an example, some receivers will assign the ch. 44 signal virtual channels 2.1 and 2.2, and assign the ch. 48 signal virtual channels 2.3 and 2.4, while other receivers will give you two virtual 2.1 channels and two virtual 2.2 channels. Assuming clear views of each, you would only know which is which by examining the transport stream.

Because of terrain blockage, Tucson AZ has the same situation with three of their big four networks, with most of the central city capable of receiving both signals of each station, and what I described above is what I've observed on various receivers.

 

[stewie]

KTVU and KGO have fill in translators for San Jose.

Interesting. What mountain tops are they located on? How does virtual mapping work if a setup can get both channels?

Depends on your receiver. Using KTVU as an example, some receivers will assign the ch. 44 signal virtual channels 2.1 and 2.2, and assign the ch. 48 signal virtual channels 2.3 and 2.4, while other receivers will give you two virtual 2.1 channels and two virtual 2.2 channels. Assuming clear views of each, you would only know which is which by examining the transport stream.

Because of terrain blockage, Tucson AZ has the same situation with three of their big four networks, with most of the central city capable of receiving both signals of each station, and what I described above is what I've observed on various receivers.

Excellent, thanks for the information.

I grew up in the South Bay (without cable or satellite) and remember how much fun it was to get SF stations clearly. Sounds like digital TV provides a huge improvements to big markets with terrain issues.

 

[Markd]

Fox has never had the need for KRON. KTVU was a VHF station covering the same areas KRON did PLUS KTVU has had strong syndicated shows. The only thing negative about KTVU was that they market themselves as an independent station. They call themselves Channel 2 KTVU and not really Fox 2. Other than that they ran all of FOx's shows, even Fox Kids when that was offered. Plus they have a strong news department. So KTVU was run as well as any Fox O & O. KTVU has always been a top rate Fox station. Why buy KRON? Also today VHF and UHF no longer matters with digital. Most former VHF stations are now UHF anyway. Even those staying VHF have same signal virtually as any UHF with the way digital works.