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No you can stream in real time, just like cable. You can watch OTA TV via real time stream rather than antenna.
Maybe if you pay. But if you're paying, that doesn't make you a "cord cutter". I'm quite certain I can't turn on my Roku and watch NBC (or my local NBC affiliate) without paying a subscription to a service like Sling.

To Joe's question, even among households which do have a TV antenna, they don't use it much. A 2019 study from Horowitz research found 19% of time with the TV was spent on broadcast channels in "cord-cutter" households, and that nearly 80% of "cord cutters" subscribed to at least one on-demand streaming service. Based on what we know about increasing subscriptions to on-demand streaming services in 2020, I'd bet that figure is higher now.

 
Maybe if you pay. But if you're paying, that doesn't make you a "cord cutter". I'm quite certain I can't turn on my Roku and watch NBC (or my local NBC affiliate) without paying a subscription to a service like Sling.

It depends. If you want to watch local programming on your local channel, you can stream from their website. Or at least my local channels stream their local news content. The network can be streamed from the net sites.

But the concept of being a cord cutter is to get content for free, and there's lots of free content. If you want specific things, you probably have to pay in some way. Pluto has hundreds of live real time channels. I'm amazed what I can watch on my Fire Stick without any subscriptions. I've even avoided subscribing to Amazon Prime.
 
First post here. Hi everyone!

I think the WRME format would do okay on the AM band, and it would do great with an FM translator. I'm noticing a lot of oldies stations on AM in the midwest. WZTI-AM in Milwaukee broadcasts on two FM translators and gets a sizable ratings. WRJN-AM in Racine has an oldies format and has two translators, one in Racine and one in Kenosha. WFAW-AM in the Madison Area flipped to an oldies format recently. WDGY-AM in Minneapolis has two FM translators and also simulcasts on a full power FM HD2 station. WDGY broadcasts in AM HD, and it sounds great when you can get it.

WRME could do fine if it wanted to get creative. Is broadcasting with full-power from downtown likely? No. But, broadcasting from an AM station, or AM HD station, or FM HD2 station, or a combination of all three could be viable.
 
WRME could do fine if it wanted to get creative. Is broadcasting with full-power from downtown likely? No. But, broadcasting from an AM station, or AM HD station, or FM HD2 station, or a combination of all three could be viable.

My view, and I probably said it earlier in this thread, is that if 87.7 goes away, that WRME will lease a signal somewhere else. It may be someone's HD2 or it may be a translator. But they won't be buying a station to broadcast this signal, because Weigel doesn't own radio. Just TV.
 
^^^
Furlong said WRGB resurrected the simulcast in July by "attaching" an analog signal to its digital broadcast.


I remembered one of my posts in alt.video.digital-tv about ATSC (1.0) + FM, this is the link from the 2009-08 post.


Kirk Bayne
 
My view, and I probably said it earlier in this thread, is that if 87.7 goes away, that WRME will lease a signal somewhere else. It may be someone's HD2 or it may be a translator. But they won't be buying a station to broadcast this signal, because Weigel doesn't own radio. Just TV.
The other MeTV-FM stations are operated by other radio companies under license - WRME is an oddity in that it's a TV station and directly owned and operated by Weigel. There's potential there for Weigel to approach radio owners in the region to run the MeTV-FM programming, perhaps on an AM/translator or HD/translator combo. It'd get Weigel out of radio ownership and allow the format to continue.
 
My view, and I probably said it earlier in this thread, is that if 87.7 goes away, that WRME will lease a signal somewhere else. It may be someone's HD2 or it may be a translator. But they won't be buying a station to broadcast this signal, because Weigel doesn't own radio. Just TV.

The problem with moving to an HD2 signal is that they would then lose the audience that is keeping them strong in the ratings now. I'm not paying for an HD radio...

Since I listen WRME, they (at last time I checked the site), don't have online streaming. You have to go to their Milwaukee affiliate which does and then sometimes the music played is out of synch with what Me-TV's website says is being played.

But again, I won't pay to get an HD radio.
 
Since I listen WRME, they (at last time I checked the site), don't have online streaming. You have to go to their Milwaukee affiliate which does and then sometimes the music played is out of synch with what Me-TV's website says is being played.

WRME doesn't stream because Weigel would have to pay the music royalties. The reason the Milwaukee station streams is because it's owned by Entercom and they own Radio.com. The Milwaukee station is an HD-2. If WRME moved to an HD2 in Chicago owned by Entercom or iHeart, it would likely be available for streaming.
 
But if you still have cable providing an Internet connection for the purposes of streaming, have you truly 'cut the cord'?
 
But if you still have cable providing an Internet connection for the purposes of streaming, have you truly 'cut the cord'?
"Cutting the cord" usually means ending use of cable/satellite tv services, not internet service. Internet streaming services and over-the-air TV provides a good replacement for traditional pay TV service. My family has never subscribed to pay TV, the rooftop antenna gives access to all major networks and local news, as well as many digital subchannels. I have used Netflix streaming since 2008, and before that also rented DVDs by mail. I also sometimes rent DVDs from Redbox kiosks.
 
"Cutting the cord" usually means ending use of cable/satellite tv services, not internet service. Internet streaming services and over-the-air TV provides a good replacement for traditional pay TV service. My family has never subscribed to pay TV, the rooftop antenna gives access to all major networks and local news, as well as many digital subchannels. I have used Netflix streaming since 2008, and before that also rented DVDs by mail. I also sometimes rent DVDs from Redbox kiosks.
That's the thing. If one has Internet via a cable company, technically you're still paying for cable. You may not be using it, but at a minimum commitment, it's still there.
 
The problem with moving to an HD2 signal is that they would then lose the audience that is keeping them strong in the ratings now. I'm not paying for an HD radio...

Since I listen WRME, they (at last time I checked the site), don't have online streaming. You have to go to their Milwaukee affiliate which does and then sometimes the music played is out of synch with what Me-TV's website says is being played.

But again, I won't pay to get an HD radio.
An HD radio probably costs less than one month's cellular phone bill for most people. They aren't that expensive.
 
An HD radio probably costs less than one month's cellular phone bill for most people. They aren't that expensive.
Exactly. I find the investment in a portable HD radio well worth it, especially if they have a niche format that you want in your local market, I.E. a 1960’s and 1970’s soft oldies station like ME-TV FM. I know HD radio has a lot of detractors on here, but it’s free radio, no monthly cost, and a lot of the HD-2 subchannels run commercial free music with better audio quality than Sirius XM satellite channels.
 
^^^^^ I listen sometimes to the local news-talker on FM (KIRO-FM, which has a good news show in the morning, and Coast To Coast overnights), and every now and then the local NPR, but the only music FM listening I do is to a couple different HD2's, one is a metal channel, the other a blues channel. There is a third classic alternative channel I also check into from time to time. I never listen to standard music FM otherwise. HD can be a good investment for radio if you live in a metro where there are a couple channels that have music you like. Most people probably only listen to one or two FMs most of the time -- with HD it can be the same.
 
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