Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:Wherever and whatever my man is doing he will always be top with me...simply because he knows his music and the demo AND the balls to give the listeners what they want to hear..unlike most PD's who really know nothing about real programming the #1 market, they show what great puppets they truly are.
This is why radio today sucks...
Tony Santiago said:Tony, first off, welcome to the board!
Maybe it's because I was a listener of 'KTU during the disco days along with Hot 103 and 97, that my view regarding Frankie Blue is slightly skewed when he was on the rebirth of 'KTU. So to that I tread carefully here because honestly, I had NOTHING against the guy. He knew his stuff...agreed, but I actually liked him best when he was running Jammin' 105. To that sense, for someone with the background of classic dance, Frankie Blue is DA MAN. However, as much as I've tried and tried, I could never "embrace" 'KTU in the same fashion that I am embracing Pulse 87 now.
I do realize that many of the decisions regarding the current 'KTU came from corporate. (Evergreen/AM-FM/Chancellor and Clear Channel). But the reality is, while Frankie Blue did a great job with the programming....I think he did TOO good of a job. I say that because a lot of that classic dance mentality is still stuck on people very hardcore (e.g.: freestyle), which made it extremely hard for fans to try to open up to something new.
When we did the first run of the Metro New York Dance Radio Coalition in 1993, we had wanted a current based station (similar to what Hot 97 was and from my many visits to Toronto upon hearing a groundbreaking dance station at that time...CING / Energy 108) If recurrents were to be a part of such a station, it would be done on a minimal scale. So when 'KTU launched and upon hearing that Frankie Blue (who ran the old 'KTU) was a part of it I was very hopeful. However, instead of a station that was an 80/20 with the main lean on currents, it was an 80/20 lean with the main lean on classics. And yes, that was the station that 'KTU was meant to be....and people were chewing me out back then, wondering what MY problem was, that for all of the fighting that I did back then, I wasn't into 'KTU. That (and I've heard this MANY MANY times) "it's better than nothing."
Yet upon the 25,205th repeat of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" followed by Corina's "Temptation" just waiting it out to see if SOMETHING current would come, it became VERY frustrating for me as well as those dance music fans that wanted the currents versus the disco/freestyle. And that's where we felt that 'KTU "sucked". Luckily for those out in the island, Party 105 happened not too long after and THAT was current. Unfortunately the signal didn't carry far outside of Suffolk/So. Connecticut for anyone in NYC to take notice. And back then, Internet streaming really was at its infancy (just the terrestrial stations putting their signal out via RealAudio) nor did satellite radio exist yet....which added to the frustration.
My point was this...if 'KTU came out in a different market outside of New York, that it would have been a killer station. But being "New York", and perhaps this is the part where I say forgive me for giving the dance music fan too much credit, we KNEW better and knew that there was a LOT more material out there that could have been spun on 'KTU that wasn't. The only bit of hope dance fans such as myself had was when Vic Latino came on to the station...and his show was about the closest that 'KTU ever had with "today".
I guess this is the part where I question "the balls". Perhaps Frankie did have the "balls" to get on the few currents that DID appear on 'KTU. I had only wished there was more, instead of this "playing it safe" mentality and admittedly back then, I blamed him for not doing more....to which now knowing what I know, I could only offer my deep apologies for that (there..I've said it). And yeah, 'KTU was number 1 for a while with the way the format was.
Though, knowing the type of station Mix 102.7 was, I never had any qualms with Frankie Blue being there...if anything, it made sense! The bigger problem though was the fact that two stations doing a similar format, with Mix 102.7 never cracking past a 1.4, things were going to kill each other off. And in effect it did. Mix 102.7 is now Fresh and 'KTU dropped the few edgier dance material for "totally safe".
And yes, when you do look at the corporate landscape, radio does suck! Especially on how mainstay formats were dumped for something even more cookie-cutter (CBS oldies for "Jack", CD101.9 for 'RXP) and "soul less". Which is why I want SOOOOO MUCH for Pulse 87 to succeed because with Joel Salkowitz there, the station is indeed a "throwback" to how things were before corporations ruined things. It's a station that has 80/20 with the lean on currents.
Yeah, they have a crappy signal and they're aware of it...but musically and programming wise, I have had NO complaints about it! If anything, I LOVE this station to death!!! And it seems as if they ARE listening and are doing more to really get to the heart of all the dance music fans in New York..perhaps a deep house/lounge mix specialty show along the way???
Back to Frankie Blue and I do want to be fair about this. I'd LOVE for him tackle a current based dance format somewhere. He did it when Disco 92/'KTU was current. Maybe with the cycle favoring current dance again, it would be wise for some corporation in this country to pick him up as their PD and give him that "free reign" with dance. I've been fighting for Philadelphia to get a station like this.....perhaps he should hit up that market!Or Los Angeles. Hey...why not Miami for that matter!
To that, I can only wish Frankie the best of luck in his future endeavors. It stunk the way that he went "down".
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:How it went down for Frankie was not right..for reasons I won't discuss here, but I will say that he is my friend and will always be.. However with regards to Pulse, IMO it will ultimately fail for a number of reasons mainly due to my examination of their books and my 23 years of financial Wall Street experience telling me not to play. The playlist is nothing really special and the mix shows are the same lame nonsense that is catered to a moronic audience because you have to be one to listen. Sounds harsh but that is what I feel, and who is to blame???? the dj or management????
I take my personal mixing to a much much higher standard, that is why people listen to my shows, the current mix crew as I said is just uninteresting and the shows have no New York soul in them...that is why they are just bland or plain vanilla, and I don't listen to that type of presentation. Many may agree or disagree..that's kool.
There is nothing that draws me to Pulse, a draw like a 5pm Friday Frankie Crocker is what should be happening, I don't see it. It will always come down to the bottom line and I don't see the numbers in the financials.
Somewhat good idea but wrong vehicle to drive in...I honestly expected much more Horsepower based on the hype.
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:the format that we put together will be implemented..but on a existing station here. Will work on that project soon.
Not many know what I just mentioned, but at this point is is good marketing to shed a little light on hope for dance music...since it IS the original music since the first cavemen hit each other over the head with a t-rex bone to make some sound.
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:TS...I know exactly how much it would cost to start a new station here in the city...
Right after MIX flipped, I was upset about the fact that "ok, another dance station lost" here in NYC....so I decided to do something about it. Put together a plan, format and brought my company into starting a new station. Had the 100 Million ready to go...problem was that there was no freq that was available that we wanted.
So, this is what I mentioned to you, the format that we put together will be implemented..but on a existing station here. Will work on that project soon.
Not many know what I just mentioned, but at this point is is good marketing to shed a little light on hope for dance music...since it IS the original music since the first cavemen hit each other over the head with a t-rex bone to make some sound.
BACKnUSSR said:Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:TS...I know exactly how much it would cost to start a new station here in the city...
Right after MIX flipped, I was upset about the fact that "ok, another dance station lost" here in NYC....so I decided to do something about it. Put together a plan, format and brought my company into starting a new station. Had the 100 Million ready to go...problem was that there was no freq that was available that we wanted.
So, this is what I mentioned to you, the format that we put together will be implemented..but on a existing station here. Will work on that project soon.
Not many know what I just mentioned, but at this point is is good marketing to shed a little light on hope for dance music...since it IS the original music since the first cavemen hit each other over the head with a t-rex bone to make some sound.
Might be tough getting a NYC signal for 100M.
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:TS...I know exactly how much it would cost to start a new station here in the city...
Right after MIX flipped, I was upset about the fact that "ok, another dance station lost" here in NYC....so I decided to do something about it. Put together a plan, format and brought my company into starting a new station. Had the 100 Million ready to go...problem was that there was no freq that was available that we wanted.
So, this is what I mentioned to you, the format that we put together will be implemented..but on a existing station here. Will work on that project soon.
Not many know what I just mentioned, but at this point is is good marketing to shed a little light on hope for dance music...since it IS the original music since the first cavemen hit each other over the head with a t-rex bone to make some sound.
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:Wherever and whatever my man is doing he will always be top with me...simply because he knows his music and the demo AND the balls to give the listeners what they want to hear..unlike most PD's who really know nothing about real programming the #1 market, they show what great puppets they truly are.
This is why radio today sucks...
letmethinkaboutit said:Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:Wherever and whatever my man is doing he will always be top with me...simply because he knows his music and the demo AND the balls to give the listeners what they want to hear..unlike most PD's who really know nothing about real programming the #1 market, they show what great puppets they truly are.
This is why radio today sucks...
He definitely had the balls to give listeners what they wanted to hear! Especially as a jock!
http://airchexx.com/markets/new-yor...e-and-their-former-station-1027-wnew-new-york
"we're going to stick our hand in the basket, pick out a winner, and we're gonna ---- the winner"
-Frankie Blue
LOLOL
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:letmethinkaboutit said:Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:Wherever and whatever my man is doing he will always be top with me...simply because he knows his music and the demo AND the balls to give the listeners what they want to hear..unlike most PD's who really know nothing about real programming the #1 market, they show what great puppets they truly are.
This is why radio today sucks...
He definitely had the balls to give listeners what they wanted to hear! Especially as a jock!
http://airchexx.com/markets/new-yor...e-and-their-former-station-1027-wnew-new-york
"we're going to stick our hand in the basket, pick out a winner, and we're gonna ---- the winner"
-Frankie Blue
LOLOL
...and you never had a bad day in your life?...c'mon now. ???
Anyhow that segment was live and nothing you can do about it, but by bringing it up again, well stop being a bad boy. ;D