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Future of 1210 AM in Philadelphia

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What do you think will happen with WPHT 1210 AM as a result of the CBS/Beasley deal that was announced this week? Will they keep the talk format or drop it? 610 AM is the wild card in this, because what Beasley does to the station will have an impact on 1210's future. I have a funny feeling that 1210 AM WPHT, might wind up going to a sports format, due to this huge deal between CBS and Beasley Broadcast Group. The local play by play sports that's on 610 AM has got to go somewhere.
 
Why do I have the funny feeling I've read this post before? It's deja vu all over again, and again, and again ....

BOYCOTT: v. to combine in abstaining from, or preventing dealings with, as a means of intimidation or coercion:
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I guess it doesn't count if I just don't listen to some station because I don't like it. If it did, I'd be boycott almost every station in town. But because I don't listen, I don't care much what they do. Or who owns them.
 
gr8oldies said:
They aren't go to do whatever it is you want them to do.
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I disagree, this is OUR station and the programmers need to listen to us in terms of what we want on the station, not what the executives want. I'm tired of people saying that nothing's going to change. If enough people like myself are willing to call or e-mail the people that run the stations and demand change with the station, they would likely listen to us and make changes. We need to have more of a say about our radio stations, not just sit there and accept things. That's defeating the purpose.
 
Jul said:
I disagree, this is OUR station and the programmers need to listen to us in terms of what we want on the station, not what the executives want. I'm tired of people saying that nothing's going to change. If enough people like myself are willing to call or e-mail the people that run the stations and demand change with the station, they would likely listen to us and make changes. We need to have more of a say about our radio stations, not just sit there and accept things. That's defeating the purpose.
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Then buy into the group that owns the station...that's the fastest way you will get anything changed...OR have a majority of the listeners tell the advertisers what they want...(good luck with that in Phily)

Otherwise, they are going on ratings and what they think will sell ads....period...its THEIR station because the license is in their names...the "public" interest went out the windows decades ago...
 
Jul said:
I disagree, this is OUR station and the programmers need to listen to us in terms of what we want on the station, not what the executives want.
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What the executives want is to get a salable audience.

I'm tired of people saying that nothing's going to change.
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When a station is profitable and getting the highest ratings possible within its format, it is not going to change to something uncertain. The costs of a format change in terms of lost revenue are huge, and can not be recuperated rapidly.

If enough people like myself are willing to call or e-mail the people that run the stations and demand change with the station, they would likely listen to us and make changes.
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No, they won't. Management will look at the ratings and the P&L statement, and if there is any concern, they will do proprietary research to see if there is something that can be improved or changed. A few emails in a market of millions will not have any effect at all.

We need to have more of a say about our radio stations, not just sit there and accept things. That's defeating the purpose.
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Listeners do have a say... via ratings. As major market stations... at least the ones that don't do brokered and religious or ethnic programming... live by the ratings, nothing influences management more than changes in the size of a station's audience.
 
Julius, you keep using first person plural pronouns - "we," "us," "our" - but there is no "us" here, there's only you. People here are kind enough to write you reasoned replies but I have yet to see anybody agree with you. So, no, Julius. I am not going to call WPHT and I am not going to email them. It is not your station. If you don't like the way any business is run, don't patronize them. But stop acting like some spoiled brat threatening to hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get his way.
 
FredLeonard said:
Julius, you keep using first person plural pronouns - "we," "us," "our" - but there is no "us" here, there's only you. People here are kind enough to write you reasoned replies but I have yet to see anybody agree with you. So, no, Julius. I am not going to call WPHT and I am not going to email them. It is not your station. If you don't like the way any business is run, don't patronize them. But stop acting like some spoiled brat threatening to hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get his way.
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I think that you are right. I'm beating a dead horse here. I'm so sorry Fred for my inane posts.
 
Jul said:
I think that you are right. I'm beating a dead horse here. I'm so sorry Fred for my inane posts.
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Thank you, Julius. Apology accepted. You do raise some valid points but you don't need to keep repeating them.
 
It's the owners station. Radio should be for us- but's not for now.
 
atrainradio said:
It's the owners station. Radio should be for us- but's not for now.
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Yes and no. Supposedly, "owners" hold a license to use public airwaves to serve the public interest, convenience and necessity. In practical terms, "owners" make money by attracting the attention of the public (or some segment of the public) and selling that attention to advertisers. If the public withholds its attention, for whatever reason, the "owners" have nothing to sell. Radio has to be for "somebody," which may or may not include you or I or Julius. No somebody, no money. Less somebody, less money.
 
"Public interest, convenience and necessity."

We turn on a radio and there's programming there. That's convenient. They've fulfilled their obligation. Whether we like it or not isn't their problem if they're selling spots; which in the case of WPHT, they are.
 
Julius,

Have you gone to the station and asked to see the Public Inspection File? If not, I suggest you do, and pay particular attention to the Quarterly Issues and Programs list. It should be updated with 3Q 2104 by Friday. That's where you can see if they're actually serving the public interest, convenience and necessity. You are entitled to remain anonymous.
 
Ravens said:
"Public interest, convenience and necessity."

We turn on a radio and there's programming there. That's convenient. They've fulfilled their obligation. Whether we like it or not isn't their problem if they're selling spots; which in the case of WPHT, they are.
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That's right! Grab your ankles and each time you get hit say, "Thank you, sir, may I have another." Greed is good. Rich people are our friends. Corporations are always right. Whatever bad happens, we deserved it. Sig heil!
 
Bill_981 said:
Julius,

Have you gone to the station and asked to see the Public Inspection File? If not, I suggest you do, and pay particular attention to the Quarterly Issues and Programs list. It should be updated with 3Q 2104 by Friday. That's where you can see if they're actually serving the public interest, convenience and necessity. You are entitled to remain anonymous.
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Don't give him any ideas.
 
Ravens said:
Don't give him any ideas.
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Here's another idea, Julius. Buy one share to stock in CBS. It closed yesterday at $52.16. Go to the annual meeting. Management and the board take questions from shareholders (it's the law). Stand up, take the mic and ask the questions you've been asking here. Moonves and his lackeys will try to weasel out of answering them but you can persist and make them look bad.

Hey, Ravens: I bet your hero is Bob "This Is My Team" Irsay. Or William "Public Be Damned" Vanderbilt.
 
FredLeonard said:
Julius, you keep using first person plural pronouns - "we," "us," "our" - but there is no "us" here, there's only you. People here are kind enough to write you reasoned replies but I have yet to see anybody agree with you. So, no, Julius. I am not going to call WPHT and I am not going to email them. It is not your station. If you don't like the way any business is run, don't patronize them. But stop acting like some spoiled brat threatening to hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get his way.
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Amen Brother!
 
The future of 1210? CBS swaps the WIP and WPHT calls, but retains the formats "as is." Then, they change the nickname of 1210 to brand it as 1210 WIPeopleTalk They dust of Steve Martorano for his 273rd go-around, track down Michelle Iaia...and voila, it's back to the future again.
 
FredLeonard said:
Hey, Ravens: I bet your hero is Bob "This Is My Team" Irsay.
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Ravens and Irsays don't mix. Think about it.

And no, we aren't entitled to radio stations that play what we want. I hardly ever find something I like to listen to anymore, but I'm not trying to FORCE people into doing what I want.
 
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