Chuck Wagon said:Is that a "positive" or "negative" on the Shiny Toy Guns?
I actually really like that track.
And I feel that them playing stuff like Jurassic 5, Gnarls Barkley and now this Shiny Toy Guns track is what some folks on this board have been "asking for" from the station to play different tracks from the norm.
hubcity said:Actually, I just pulled this off their "last 106.3" list, so the 90's At Noon block isn't represented. (It does go back to about 1:30am, so there may be more spice in the overnights, though I doubt it.)
Today, I found these overlaps with what I'd program...
Beck - Loser
Beck - Nausea
Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again
Dramarama - Work For Food
Fatboy Slim - Praise You
Fountains of Wayne - Radiation Vibe
Garbage - Only Happy When It Rains
Gnarls Barkley - Gone Daddy Gone
Green Day - When I Come Around
Janes Addiction - Jane Says
Modest Mouse - Float On
Nine Inch Nails - Only
Oasis - Wonderwall
Oasis - Acquiesce
Ok Go - Here It Goes Again
Radiohead - Creep
Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dani California
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge
Shiny Toy Guns - Le Disko
The Dandy Warhols - We Used To Be Friends
The Killers - Smile Like You Mean It
The Pixies - Monkey Gone To Heaven
The Raconteurs - Steady As She Goes
U2 and Green Day - The Saints Are Coming
Violent Femmes - Please Do Not Go
Violent Femmes - American Music
Weezer - Hash Pipe
Weezer - This Is Such a Pity
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Gold Lion
(And there's that Shiny Toy Guns track again - weird!)
-Sean
Altrok Radio at http://www.altrokradio.com
hubcity said:Personally, I think they're not so quick with adds because they're not willing to take a chance. As you said, the Shiny Toy Guns track was played on JSE eons ago, and even earlier by me.
I can't fault their logic - they're building an audience of people who kinda like them, as opposed to a smaller, but far more loyal, group of die-hards.
Since this is becoming a trend, here's another day's worth of overlaps, airing 12mid-10am:
Beck - Nausea
Blur - Song 2
Cake - The Distance
Cracker - Euro-Trash Girl
Cracker - Get Off This
Depeche Mode - Strangelove
Editors - Munich
Fatboy Slim - Rockafeller Skank (Edit)
Gnarls Barkley - Gone Daddy Gone
Hard-Fi - Hard To Beat
Morrissey - First Of The Gang To Die
Morrissey - Suedehead
Nine Inch Nails - Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails - Only
Oasis - Lyla
Ok Go - Here It Goes Again
Pearl Jam - Worldwide Suicide
Radiohead - High And Dry
Radiohead - There There
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Dani California
She Wants Revenge - These Things
Shiny Toy Guns - Le Disko
The Cure - Pictures Of You
The Raconteurs - Steady As She Goes
The Smiths - Bigmouth Strikes Again
The Strokes - Juice Box
The White Stripes - Blue Orchid
U2 - Beautiful Day
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Gold Lion
Their 10 hours of programming to 2 hours worth listening to ratio appears to be holding...wonder how that'd skew if they did another retro weekend...
-Sean
Altrok Radio at http://www.altrokradio.com
SoulCrusher said:They'll probably do another Retro weekend eventually - just be prepared to wait another 6 months or so, as they come around about as often as Halley's Comet. Wouldn't want to upset and confuse those MySpace-loving little girls who are their bread and butter, you know.
They may not be willing to take a chance when it comes to breaking bands that aren't established, but they are willing to play some very polarizing acts as long as they are popular. You would have to be a middle-school dropout to be a fan of Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard, Blink 182, Evanescence, Linkin Park and all the other low-IQ rockers that they slam incessantly. I don't know anyone that likes these bands that isn't a female teenager. They have very limited appeal compared to acts like Korn and System Of A Down who have a following that goes beyond teen girls - I'm not saying these bands should be played on G Rock Radio, but I would much rather hear them play jock rock (which SOAD isn't - they get a bad rap) than the aforementioned bubblegum rubbish. Bands like Fall Out Boy (who are basically NSYNC with instruments) and Evanescence (who are like later period Heart with a side of Meat Loaf) have no place on the Alternative format, and show how far it has come from its roots - no way would an Alternative station play this junk if it were around 20, 15, even 10 years ago.
The acts that you listed here should make up the core of the station - if they combine this with other acts that have more broad appeal, and become more aggressive with their adds, they can avoid alienating a lot of listeners. I know a lot of people that say "G Rock Radio - they're the station that plays all that god-awful pop/punk and emo garbage, right?" or something to that effect, and that's the disadvantage of having a really tight playlist. Opening things up and expanding the currents and the library would help the station defy easy categorization, and that would make more of a diverse group tune in. But I guess Press has it in their head to make teen girls the center of attention, and hoping the rest of us tune in for a song at a time (hence the good 20% of their programming).
Positives: Cracker, DM (another great choice from the pre-Violator days), Editors, Hard-Fi, Morrissey (they played "Suedehead"? Awesome!) - heck, everything here is great aside from the RHCP and U2 tracks ... both great bands, but the work they're putting out now represents the sound of treading water. IMO, RHCP's last decent album was with Dave Navarro (still pales to the early days though) and U2 became a nostalgia act with the release of All That You Can't Leave Behind. Much like Pink Floyd and The Rolling Stones, a new album for U2 represents little more than something to promote when going out on tour.
buzzrockradio said:Soul what are you talking about? i know tons of men who like Fall Out Boy (their old stuff was somewhat good), Blink 182, Linkin Park is always requested by guys and girls. My station never really jumped on Evanescence and thankfully we never got a request for it. I do agree with you that G Rock Radio should start playing their whole library but that will not happen anytime soon.
Tom
http://www.buzzrock.2ya.com
SoulCrusher said:You would have to be a middle-school dropout to be a fan of Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard, Blink 182, Evanescence, Linkin Park and all the other low-IQ rockers that they slam incessantly. I don't know anyone that likes these bands that isn't a female teenager.
Bands like Fall Out Boy (who are basically NSYNC with instruments) and Evanescence (who are like later period Heart with a side of Meat Loaf) have no place on the Alternative format, and show how far it has come from its roots - no way would an Alternative station play this junk if it were around 20, 15, even 10 years ago.
Beejus said:SoulCrusher said:You would have to be a middle-school dropout to be a fan of Fall Out Boy, Yellowcard, Blink 182, Evanescence, Linkin Park and all the other low-IQ rockers that they slam incessantly. I don't know anyone that likes these bands that isn't a female teenager.
Hi. I'm a male college graduate, and I like all of those bands listed. Many of my friends do too, and they are college graduates as well. Thank you for the sweeping generalization.
Bands like Fall Out Boy (who are basically NSYNC with instruments) and Evanescence (who are like later period Heart with a side of Meat Loaf) have no place on the Alternative format, and show how far it has come from its roots - no way would an Alternative station play this junk if it were around 20, 15, even 10 years ago.
Why wouldn't they? Just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people don't. It's been pointed out before... the station wouldn't keep playing these artists if they weren't popular. People don't want to tune into an Alternative station and hear what sounds like someone slitting their throat and screaming, and passing it off as "singing."
G Rock is playing what its listeners want. If you don't like it... then press the "Seek" button. It's that simple.
hubcity said:Well, hm. Soulcrusher's making sweeping generalizations, yes - but Beejus lost me with this comment:
"It's been pointed out before... the station wouldn't keep playing these artists if they weren't popular."
I dunno, I think you should stop playing a band when their new songs sound just like their old ones, and they generally make you throw up a little in your mouth. But that's me.
Beejus said:hubcity said:Well, hm. Soulcrusher's making sweeping generalizations, yes - but Beejus lost me with this comment:
"It's been pointed out before... the station wouldn't keep playing these artists if they weren't popular."
I dunno, I think you should stop playing a band when their new songs sound just like their old ones, and they generally make you throw up a little in your mouth. But that's me.
Well, we have differing opinions. I'm not a fan of Nickelback by any means, but my statement is the truth of radio. It's a business, it needs to make money. Getting more people to listen to your station helps make more money. If the people want Nickelback, play Nickelback.
I'm all for widening the playlists of radio stations. The station I program is a Hot AC, but I stray onto the Alt. and CHR charts with good response, but I keep my core with what people want to hear... and right now, some of my top requested songs are Evanescene, Hinder, and Nickelback. Granted, I am in a completely different market in a completely different section of the US.
If PDs programmed on personal tastes alone, most stations would be a trainwreck.
hubcity said:I dunno, I think you should stop playing a band when their new songs sound just like their old ones, and they generally make you throw up a little in your mouth. But that's me.
(Nickelback, I'm lookin' at you.)
Beejus said:I'm all for widening the playlists of radio stations. The station I program is a Hot AC, but I stray onto the Alt. and CHR charts with good response, but I keep my core with what people want to hear... and right now, some of my top requested songs are Evanescene, Hinder, and Nickelback. Granted, I am in a completely different market in a completely different section of the US.
SoulCrusher said:I would say without hesitation that Nickelback was one of the 5 Most Played Bands/Artists on G Rock Radio in 2005.
If you're going to deviate from the roots of Alternative at all, you're better off playing more aggressive rock acts than soft pop/rock - it will keep the target audience loyal.
Beejus said:We get the point that GRock doesn't cater to your EXACT tastes, and spewing hate over radio messageboards won't do a thing. Grock is fine, GRock plays what it's listeners want to hear.
SoulCrusher said:Look at G Rock Radio's playlist and you could imagine everyone from college kids to forklift drivers to soccer moms and their cheerleader daughters tuning in - for one song at a time. Therein lies the problem.
Beejus said:Nickelback Hit #1 on the charts, so did Evanescence. Let's not forget Lifehouse hit #1, Sarah McLachlan hit #1, The Goo Goo Dolls hit #1, The Calling went Top 10, so did Nine Days, The Cardigans, Natalie Imbruglia, Maroon 5 hit Top 20. That's part of the Alternative "roots," so why not play them still?