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G-Rock: Looks Like The Pendulum Has Swung Again

They played Ministry "Everyday Is Halloween" on Friday night during their "Music Lab" feature, which featured a bunch of songs themed around the holiday.

How about seeing a skew of the music from afternoon to midnight, instead of giving an overnight/morning show sample...especially since during the morning show it's LESS music.

One would assume that in the PM Drive/Evening hours, they'd go heavier on the music that the critics on this board are actually looking for, since as the day goes later the audience gets younger.

I've heard alot of good music, especially after 5pm. I enjoy the "Music Lab" feature that plays new music for a segment of the night show. I think most of the jocks are good, but I think that the night guy is their best representation of DJ's. It seems like he actually knows the music and I wonder if they allow him to play some songs on his own that stray away from their playlist.

But I digress. Sean, perhaps that sample of afternoon/night music for next set?
 
Here's 4PM-12:30AM: Well, two out of the Halloween big three ain't bad...

Bad Religion - Infected
Bauhaus - Bela Lugosis Dead
Beck - Nausea
Cracker - Get Off This
Death Cab For Cutie - Soul Meets Body
Elastica - Connection
Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
Franz Ferdinand - The Fallen
Gnarls Barkley - Gone Daddy Gone
Green Day - American Idiot
Green Day - Holiday
Hole - Celebrity Skin
Janes Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot
Ministry - Everyday Is Halloween
Neds Atomic Dustbin - Grey Cell Green
Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Nine Inch Nails - Head Like A Hole
Oasis - Acquiesce
Oasis - All Around The World
Oasis - Live Forever
Ok Go - Here It Goes Again
She Wants Revenge - Tear You Apart
Shiny Toy Guns - Le Disko
Social Distortion - Ball And Chain
The Cure - Never Enough
The Raconteurs - Steady As She Goes
The Strokes - Juice Box
The White Stripes - Blue Orchid
U2 - Vertigo
We Are Scientists - Nobody Move Nobody Get Hurt

Still running at about 30/106 songs, though - we'll try again tomorrow night to see if Bauhaus/Ministry skewed the results (at 9 and 6 minutes respectively, they almost count as more, but it's unclear what they replaced in the clock...)

-Sean
Altrok Radio at http://www.altrokradio.com
 
I have to start off by pointing out that initially, Press took even more liberties with the Alternative format a couple of years ago than they are currently with G Rock Radio.

Beejus: Do you think the following acts belong on an Alternative station ... Nelly Furtado, Guns N' Roses, Bon Jovi, John Mayer, Avril Lavigne, Vanessa Carlton, Michelle Branch, Gavin DeGraw, Train, Five For Fighting, Santana, and Norah Jones? In the roughly 4 1/2 years between Press's purchase of WHTG and the rechristening of WHTG/WBBO as "G Rock Radio", all of these acts were played at some point on G 106.3, all while the station was branding itself as "Your Rock Alternative".

The station has improved dramatically since then, but upon listening to the station, you can't tell me that the powers that be that operate G Rock Radio have even the slightest clue of what an Alternative station should sound like and how G Rock Radio should sound relative to the competition. Why go after the middle aged Woman (who already is listening to something else) when you can go after the audience that has no loyalty: The Male listener? If they're under 50, they're not listening to The Hawk, they probably get bored with The Rat, and Free-FM? After O&A, forget about it, especially when The Radio Chick is on. G Rock Radio can easily solidify its audience and establish listener loyalty by going edgier or by staying true to the roots of Alternative by embracing the past, looking toward the future, and dumping the arena rock tripe that doesn't belong. I doubt that anyone requests Evanescence - they just play it because their out-of-touch consultants tell them that it's "the hot thing right now". For what it's worth, they seldom ever even play requests - soliciting for them on the air is more of a formality than anything else.

Beejus said:
Actually, Nickelback was #37 in 2005 on WHTG, a year where Nickelback placed #42 overall on the Alternative Charts When you stop exaggerating to get your way... maybe other people will listen.

The "roots" of Alternative are skewed. Some people will say the roots go back to the Clash & Sex Pistols... some will say the roots begin with Nirvana. Nickelback Hit #1 on the charts, so did Evanescence. Let's not forget Lifehouse hit #1, Sarah McLachlan hit #1, The Goo Goo Dolls hit #1, The Calling went Top 10, so did Nine Days, The Cardigans, Natalie Imbruglia, Maroon 5 hit Top 20. That's part of the Alternative "roots," so why not play them still?

I'm not sure where you get your information from on the first paragraph, but I seem to remember G Rock Radio playing the ever-living hell out of Nickelback in 2005. Maybe Top 5 was a slight exaggeration, but how did you arrive at #37? They were played every hour on the hour at times, especially during the day.

While you are correct on pointing out several MOR acts charting high with some tracks, take note of Sean's message, and also remember that most of these acts were one hit wonders, at least on the Alternative format. It also must be stated that Goo Goo Dolls were a decent loud garage rock band that was reminiscent of The Replacements at one time. Yes, I'm well aware that "Iris" and "Slide" were among the tracks that charted well on Alternative, but that was mostly because of what they used to be. Now they're a slick, glossy pop act that's no different from the Bon Jovis of the world, and they are no longer on Alternative (their post A Boy Named Goo material, at least).

The last thing that needs to be pointed out is this: Maroon 5 did not even come remotely close to the Top 20 on Alternative. "Harder To Breathe" barely cracked the Top 50 (but hey, G Rock Radio played it - they even played "This Love" as well!), at which point the label decided to focus on the ever-lucrative soccer mom market - a move that, deservedly or not, paid off big time.

hubcity said:
He's right. He may have a skewed view of how to accomplish a repair to the station (in my world, people who think Alternative started with Nirvana are laughed out of the room - but that's in my world) but he's right on the money on that.

I'm not one of those people, though an approach that replaces G Rock Radio's Hot AC leanings with more edgier rock acts like System Of A Down and Korn would be preferable and more effective.

I really don't understand why Press decided to blow up FM 106.3 and start from scratch anyway. It sounded just fine the way it was and really only needed an enhanced presence through a higher advertising budget and an improved signal. Instead of being so hasty to replace it, they really should have given it a few ratings books to see if it would have improved (it definitely would have).

Personally, I think that G Rock Radio should tinker with the approach of the station toward a sound closer to Indie, The End, and FM 106.3. They should definitely play some Sex Pistols, Bauhaus and Joy Division tracks while playing more songs by Depeche Mode, R.E.M., Pixies, The Smiths & Morrissey, and they should definitely tone down the pop/punk juvenilia and the dumbed-down post-grunge - and honestly, would anyone shed a tear if they played Nirvana, Pearl Jam or Stone Temple Pilots just a little bit less? They could drop the Shinedown, Stone Sour and Evanescence and start featuring more acts that better fit the format instead. Would people become disinterested in G Rock Radio if this were to happen? Maybe the soccer moms and their tanning-salon-obsessed daughters, but they probably only tuned in when The Point was playing a song they didn't like.
 
wow its getting good again. found a ton of good tracks in the playlist.

TIME ARTIST SONG BUY IT
1:02pm Incubus Anna Molly
12:58pm Soundgarden Spoonman
12:54pm Reel Big Fish Sell Out
12:50pm Counting Crows Einstein On The Beach
12:41pm Iggy Pop/ Kate Pierson Candy
12:37pm Everclear So Much For The Afterglow
12:34pm Green Day Redundant
12:30pm The Refreshments Banditos
12:26pm Foo Fighters Ill Stick Around
12:22pm Catherine Wheel Crank
12:17pm Mad Season River Of Deceit
12:14pm Cake The Distance
12:10pm Charlatans UK Weirdo
12:06pm U2 Staring At The Sun
12:01pm Nine Inch Nails Down In It
11:59am Fountains Of Wayne Denise
11:55am Fatboy Slim Rockafeller Skank (Edit)
11:53am The Smiths Girlfriend In A Coma
11:49am The Killers Bones
11:40am Ok Go Here It Goes Again
11:37am Clash Train In Vain (Stand By Me)
11:33am Pearl Jam Daughter
11:29am Deftones Hole In The Earth
11:26am Shinedown I Dare You
11:22am The White Stripes The Hardest Button To Button
11:18am Muse Starlight
11:14am Garbage Stupid Girl
11:11am Jet Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
11:07am The Ataris Boys of Summer
11:03am The Offspring Gotta Get Away
11:00am Pete Yorn For Us
10:57am 311 Down
10:54am Cure In Between Days
10:50am 30 Seconds To Mars From Yesterday
10:42am Gnarls Barkley Gone Daddy Gone
10:38am The All American Rejects Swing Swing
10:33am Oasis Champagne Supernova
10:30am Taking Back Sunday Liar (It Takes One To Know One)
10:26am Foo Fighters All My Life
10:22am Counting Crows Rain King
10:19am Papa Roach To Be Loved
10:16am Rise Against Swing Life Away
10:11am Red Hot Chili Peppers Dani California
10:07am Butthole Surfers Pepper
10:04am Beck Nausea
9:59am Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit
9:50am The Raconteurs Level
9:47am The Clash London Calling
9:40am Jimmy Eat World Pain
9:36am Beastie Boys So Whatcha Want
9:26am Angels And Airwaves The War
9:20am 30 Seconds To Mars The Kill (Bury Me)
9:17am Hard-Fi Cash Machine
9:06am U2 Mysterious Ways
8:51am Nada Surf Do It Again
8:47am 311 Dont Tread On Me
8:39am Jurassic 5 (feat DMB) Work It Out
8:37am Green Day Geek Stink Breath
8:27am Snow Patrol Chasing Cars
8:24am Bush The Chemicals Between Us
8:16am Weezer Perfect Situation
8:09am My Chemical Romance Welcome To The Black Parade
7:52am Stone Sour Through Glass
7:48am Incubus Stellar
7:37am Red Hot Chilli Peppers Snow (Hey Oh)
7:33am Razorlight Golden Touch
7:30am The Strokes Juice Box
7:25am Janes Addiction Jane Says
7:21am The Killers When You Were Young
7:16am Foo Fighters Best Of You
7:11am The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus Face Down
7:07am 311 Come Original
5:56am Doves Catch The Sun
5:52am Smashing Pumpkins Tonight Tonight
5:18am Gnarls Barkley Gone Daddy Gone
5:14am The Smithereens Only A Memory
5:12am Stone Temple Pilots Unglued
5:08am Death Cab For Cutie Soul Meets Body
4:54am Blue October Hate Me
4:44am Beck Nausea
4:41am Travis Sing
4:37am Blind Melon No Rain
4:33am Audioslave Revelations
4:28am Fuel Falls On Me
4:15am Rock Kills Kid Paralyzed
3:57am Foo Fighters Everlong
3:54am Gorillaz Dare
3:51am Senses Fail Buried A Lie
3:41am Tool The Pot
3:35am Soul Coughing Circles
3:32am Evanescence Call Me When Youre Sober
3:28am Ryan Adams So Alive
3:26am Jet Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
3:22am Deftones Hole In The Earth
3:18am Bush Comedown
3:14am Social Distortion Death Or Glory
3:07am Sublime Bad Fish
3:03am My Chemical Romance Welcome To The Black Parade
 
buzzrockradio said:
wow its getting good again. found a ton of good tracks in the playlist.

TIME ARTIST SONG BUY IT
1:02pm Incubus Anna Molly
12:58pm Soundgarden Spoonman
12:54pm Reel Big Fish Sell Out
12:50pm Counting Crows Einstein On The Beach
12:41pm Iggy Pop/ Kate Pierson Candy
12:37pm Everclear So Much For The Afterglow
12:34pm Green Day Redundant
12:30pm The Refreshments Banditos
12:26pm Foo Fighters Ill Stick Around
12:22pm Catherine Wheel Crank
12:17pm Mad Season River Of Deceit
12:14pm Cake The Distance
12:10pm Charlatans UK Weirdo
12:06pm U2 Staring At The Sun
12:01pm Nine Inch Nails Down In It
11:59am Fountains Of Wayne Denise
11:55am Fatboy Slim Rockafeller Skank (Edit)
11:53am The Smiths Girlfriend In A Coma
11:49am The Killers Bones
11:40am Ok Go Here It Goes Again
11:37am Clash Train In Vain (Stand By Me)
11:33am Pearl Jam Daughter
11:29am Deftones Hole In The Earth
11:26am Shinedown I Dare You
11:22am The White Stripes The Hardest Button To Button
11:18am Muse Starlight
11:14am Garbage Stupid Girl
11:11am Jet Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
11:07am The Ataris Boys of Summer
11:03am The Offspring Gotta Get Away
11:00am Pete Yorn For Us
10:57am 311 Down
10:54am Cure In Between Days
10:50am 30 Seconds To Mars From Yesterday
10:42am Gnarls Barkley Gone Daddy Gone
10:38am The All American Rejects Swing Swing
10:33am Oasis Champagne Supernova
10:30am Taking Back Sunday Liar (It Takes One To Know One)
10:26am Foo Fighters All My Life
10:22am Counting Crows Rain King
10:19am Papa Roach To Be Loved
10:16am Rise Against Swing Life Away
10:11am Red Hot Chili Peppers Dani California
10:07am Butthole Surfers Pepper
10:04am Beck Nausea
9:59am Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit
9:50am The Raconteurs Level
9:47am The Clash London Calling
9:40am Jimmy Eat World Pain
9:36am Beastie Boys So Whatcha Want
9:26am Angels And Airwaves The War
9:20am 30 Seconds To Mars The Kill (Bury Me)
9:17am Hard-Fi Cash Machine
9:06am U2 Mysterious Ways
8:51am Nada Surf Do It Again
8:47am 311 Dont Tread On Me
8:39am Jurassic 5 (feat DMB) Work It Out
8:37am Green Day Geek Stink Breath
8:27am Snow Patrol Chasing Cars
8:24am Bush The Chemicals Between Us
8:16am Weezer Perfect Situation
8:09am My Chemical Romance Welcome To The Black Parade
7:52am Stone Sour Through Glass
7:48am Incubus Stellar
7:37am Red Hot Chilli Peppers Snow (Hey Oh)
7:33am Razorlight Golden Touch
7:30am The Strokes Juice Box
7:25am Janes Addiction Jane Says
7:21am The Killers When You Were Young
7:16am Foo Fighters Best Of You
7:11am The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus Face Down
7:07am 311 Come Original
5:56am Doves Catch The Sun
5:52am Smashing Pumpkins Tonight Tonight
5:18am Gnarls Barkley Gone Daddy Gone
5:14am The Smithereens Only A Memory
5:12am Stone Temple Pilots Unglued
5:08am Death Cab For Cutie Soul Meets Body
4:54am Blue October Hate Me
4:44am Beck Nausea
4:41am Travis Sing
4:37am Blind Melon No Rain
4:33am Audioslave Revelations
4:28am Fuel Falls On Me
4:15am Rock Kills Kid Paralyzed
3:57am Foo Fighters Everlong
3:54am Gorillaz Dare
3:51am Senses Fail Buried A Lie
3:41am Tool The Pot
3:35am Soul Coughing Circles
3:32am Evanescence Call Me When Youre Sober
3:28am Ryan Adams So Alive
3:26am Jet Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
3:22am Deftones Hole In The Earth
3:18am Bush Comedown
3:14am Social Distortion Death Or Glory
3:07am Sublime Bad Fish
3:03am My Chemical Romance Welcome To The Black Parade

I do have to point out that the "90's At Noon" feature is the reason why many of those songs were played. If you think there's any chance of hearing The Charlatans or Catherine Wheel on anything other than this segment or possibly late at night (if we're lucky), think again - they're too busy shoving the god-awful Evanescence or Jet or some crap pseudo-punk boy band like The All-American Rejects or My Chemical Romance down our throats. Also, '70s Classic Rock ripoff act Counting Crows doesn't belong anywhere near an Alternative format, IMO.

I do have to point out some positives: The Smiths (Girlfriend In A Coma was definitely a surprising choice), The White Stripes (they don't play "The Hardest Button To Button" too much), Hard-Fi, Nada Surf, Razorlight, DOVES (biggest surprise of all - awesome), Soul Coughing and Social D. Other good tracks, but these were the ones that were unexpected. Unfortunately, much of it was at times where those of us who would have liked to hear it couldn't (hint, hint).

Other notes: Interesting that they played Papa Roach during the day (in typical G Rock Radio fashion, being fond of editing tracks to whatever suits them, they do take out the beginning of this song). Ditto for Deftones.

G Rock Radio does seem to be improving somewhat, and they need to make changes if they want to keep from boring the listener. Yes, they keep slamming tired Pearl Jam and Nirvana tracks and play some songs that only a teenage girl would listen to, but they sound a million times better than they did when they signed on. Hopefully they will be brave enough to play some more surprises during the 9 to 5 shift.
 
G Rock is a different station now and they are going to try different things until they can actually find a way to make some money. Personally I think the stations is terrible. I can only take so much Bush, Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots. I Miss the old FM 106.3. The only time I even can stomach G Rock Radio these days is on Saturday morning's with Mary Elizabeth. It is nice to listen to someone who actually knows about music and isn't talking about sex or other people at the station or about sports.
 
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