Garlands 95.9 is gone

[LibertyNT]

K240DS 95.9 Garland is off the air!
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?sr=Y&s=C&call=K240DS&x=0&y=0
http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1410835

I wonder why they wanted off air ?

 

[MikeShannon914]

Now, if we can just get the LPFM one off of 102.5 so I can actually pick up Mad Rock out of Whitesboro again...

 

[donicus]

Out of money?

 

[txchipk]

I've noticed that for the last week...it's nice to get the fringe signal KFWR 95.9 again.

According to the FCC application, the owners took it silent...
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...t=25&appn=101410835&formid=910&fac_num=150493

"K240DS HAS EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM WITH ITS SOURCE OF PROGRAMMING AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS AN STA TO REMAIN SILENT UNTIL THE PROBLEMS WITH RECEIVING PRIMARY KKVI(FM) ARE RESOLVED. IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE K240DS WILL RESUME NORMAL BROADCASTING WITHIN 180 DAYS."

If only we could get rid of KDKR's K221FM 92.1 Irving and K248BC 97.5 Dallas as well so reception of either KLAK or KWTX-FM can be restored rather than having the same programming duplicated on multiple spots on the dial.

 

[jd]

"K240DS HAS EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM WITH ITS SOURCE OF PROGRAMMING AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS AN STA..."

The cynic in me wants to know why, out of the blue, the owner of this translator is acting in a responsible manner by applying for a legal STA to remain silent. Delivering the programming over the air from KKVI (the "primary" station near Sulphur Springs) wasn't a problem before, was it?

KKVI is licensed for just 120 watts ERP from an antenna that's less than 100 feet up. In addition it's almost 50 miles from there to the K240DS site near Lake Ray Hubbard, meaning that reception of the primary station signal would be difficult at best and probably impossible much of the time. It's a pretty safe bet that from the beginning the people in Garland put programming on 95.9 by originating it locally or by using an alternate method of relaying the "main" station's signal.

Perhaps there's more to the story, however. Remember that K240DS is not locally owned; it's licensed to Edgewater Broadcasting from Idaho and has been since coming on the air, but maybe the arrangement is over. When or if the translator returns will we hear different programming from what was being aired by Gospel American Network, the KKVI people? In the meantime, here's another question: is KKVI on the air?

 

[Sgt. Hans G. Schultz]

"K240DS HAS EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM WITH ITS SOURCE OF PROGRAMMING AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS AN STA..."

In the meantime, here's another question: is KKVI on the air?


radi0avenger went on a search mission to find the KKVI transmitter in Hopkins County and could not locate it.
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=167924.msg1442736#msg1442736
http://kkviillegal.wordpress.com/
There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

 

[jd]

There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

Not that I doubt your statement, but at the end of the thread you cited (and in which I was a participant) it was mentioned that KKVI was reportedly back on, in late May of this year.

So here's my take on this silent STA: KKVI may have actually been on the air at one time, but probably isn't now, hence the problem with "receiving the primary station." Reading a little further, still between the lines, the "arrangement" between the translator's owner of record and the erstwhile operator may have gone sour, like I said earlier. While it's a little tough to take Edgewater's side in this thing I'd figure that they might be looking for a replacement "primary station," so as to distance themselves from the questionable actions of the Garland people. I also wouldn't rule out a pending sale of K240DS.

 

[dfwhisp]

There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

Not that I doubt your statement, but at the end of the thread you cited (and in which I was a participant) it was mentioned that KKVI was reportedly back on, in late May of this year.

So here's my take on this silent STA: KKVI may have actually been on the air at one time, but probably isn't now, hence the problem with "receiving the primary station." Reading a little further, still between the lines, the "arrangement" between the translator's owner of record and the erstwhile operator may have gone sour, like I said earlier. While it's a little tough to take Edgewater's side in this thing I'd figure that they might be looking for a replacement "primary station," so as to distance themselves from the questionable actions of the Garland people. I also wouldn't rule out a pending sale of K240DS.

You are right Mr Jd... the story continues...

 

[Sgt. Hans G. Schultz]

There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

Not that I doubt your statement, but at the end of the thread you cited (and in which I was a participant) it was mentioned that KKVI was reportedly back on, in late May of this year.


Just because someone heard a signal being broadcast on 89.9FM, doesn't necessarily mean KKVI was on the air or that what they were listening to was KKVI. radi0avanger was receiving a signal broadcasting classical music at times on 89.9 on the trip up there. It doesn't look like (from their web site) KKVI has ever programmed classical music.

 

[jd]

Just because someone heard a signal being broadcast on 89.9FM, doesn't necessarily mean KKVI was on the air or that what they were listening to was KKVI.

You're right, and you'll note that I didn't say whether I actually believed that KKVI was on the air. But back to your statement:

There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt that they are currently on the air, but can you or I prove that there isn't a transmitter or tower antenna where it should be without a trip to Overland? I'm not trying to be argumentative but let's make a distinction between fact and opinion.

 

[Sgt. Hans G. Schultz]

Just because someone heard a signal being broadcast on 89.9FM, doesn't necessarily mean KKVI was on the air or that what they were listening to was KKVI.

You're right, and you'll note that I didn't say whether I actually believed that KKVI was on the air. But back to your statement:

There currently exists no transmitter or tower for KKVI-FM 89.9.

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt that they are currently on the air, but can you or I prove that there isn't a transmitter or tower antenna where it should be without a trip to Overland? I'm not trying to be argumentative but let's make a distinction between fact and opinion.


"KKVI-FM Technical Info: Transmitter Location 33° 04' 00" N, 95° 46' 10" W"
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=33.06667,+-95.76944+%28KKVI-FM%29&om=1Been there twice. Last time was time was Nov. 29, 2010. Broke a serpentine belt, had to get it replaced in S. Springs. Good times.

 

[arnoldevns]

This has been talked about for a long time on this board. The "primary station" does not exist even though it has a license. People from this board have gone out to the site where the transmitter was supposed to be located and found nothing but an empty field.

I have no idea why the owner of the translator has finally decided to abide by the law. Maybe they've finally decided to go legit after years of running pirate stations and duping the FCC.

 

[jd]

Dear Sgt. Hans G. Schultz,

That's proof enough for me, and thanks for the first-hand info. Sorry to hear about the serpentine belt, too. Mine flew off in Corsicana on Thansgiving Day. Not good times!

I have no idea why the owner of the translator has finally decided to abide by the law. Maybe they've finally decided to go legit after years of running pirate stations and duping the FCC.

Maybe so, but I'm curious about the reason, too. It's possible that something else happened recently with Edgewater that might have a bearing on this; I'll see what I can find.

In other news, the now former Garland translator operators (Bill Wright, et al) are trying to sell the CP for a station down in Trinity to Houston area-based Aleluya Christian Broadcasting for $350,000. The trouble is that KTYR 89.9, a Class C1 station with 100,000 watts has never made it on the air as promised and their request for a modification of the CP has been dismissed:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=23094

It's unclear if this will have any effect on the proposed sale, but one thing is obvious: in this case, at least, the FCC finally figured out what was going on.

 

[radi0avenger]

Gah! I miss checking in on the board a few days and here's what I miss!

Why didn't y'all tell me you were conversing about this?

KKVI WAS on the air according to a very credible friend of mine who drove up that way in May. He DFd the signal to a tower NORTH of I30 (as opposed to south, as it's coordinates suggest) but it WAS broadcasting. I will copy and paste (hopefully he doesn't mind!) the info he gave me regarding this:

33 08 398N 095 48 680W
Hopkins County Road 4720
Crossroad Communications
903-883-4553
ASR # 1040342

Observed a 4-bay FM transmit array mounted and oriented on the southeast side of the tower about 3/4 of the way up. Estimated tower height 250 feet. No obvious STL or TSL antennae visible. Underground telco facilities in evidence. Tower and associated structure sit east of CR4720 about 100 yds. Signal picked up noisily in Sulphur Springs and was received well into Greenville. Observed classic MP2 (Layer 2) audio stutter usually associated with bit errors on a 96 to 128 kbps. ISDN or StarGuide audio delivery system. Station identified as "KKVI, Overland" in English.


Unfortunately I have no current way to go check KKVI's signal, (some idiot broadsided my brand new car on Monday-it had yet to get it's first oil change!) however if anyone's up that way, I'd also be curious as to if it's still on the air or off.

Keep in mind, there were several issues with both the translator and the main station. KKVI has NO local telephone number listed for the Overland area (must be toll free or local call to its COL). I also see no public file information posted... so one wonders where the studio and legal info is (yeah, we all know it's Garland).

The problem with the translator (which IS owned by someone other than the group who owns KKVI) is that it MUST receive it's translated station over the air. This clearly cannot be done in it's current situation. I made both these points clear to the FCC some months back. Maybe government just working slow these days? Maybe the FCC and them came to an agreement of "we won't give you a NOV if you STFU"?

 

[oldmanradio]

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why this is of interest.

Interesting ... eye of the beholder I guess.

Tony

 

[Sgt. Hans G. Schultz]

Gah! I miss checking in on the board a few days and here's what I miss!

Why didn't y'all tell me you were conversing about this?

KKVI WAS on the air according to a very credible friend of mine who drove up that way in May. He DFd the signal to a tower NORTH of I30 (as opposed to south, as it's coordinates suggest) but it WAS broadcasting. I will copy and paste (hopefully he doesn't mind!) the info he gave me regarding this:

33 08 398N 095 48 680W
Hopkins County Road 4720
Crossroad Communications
903-883-4553
ASR # 1040342


Interesting... Hopkins County Road 4720 IS north of I-30, but 33 08 398N 095 48 680W isn't!
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.08398++-95.48680&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl
This is the correct Lat & Lon for the tower on 4720:
(Lat: 33 13 8167N Lon: 95 80 9778W), Christine A Verre, 0.1 Miles North Of Cr 4722 On Cr 4720 Type: Tower, Structure height: 97.5 m, Overall height: 103.6 m Registrant: Crown Communication Inc., 2000 Corporate Drive, Canonsburg, PA 15317, Phone: (724) 416-2516
Above data from "FCC Registered Cell Phone and Antenna Towers in Sulphur Springs, Texas":http://www.city-data.com/towers/cell-Sulphur-Springs-Texas.html

 

[jd]

In case anyone tried looking it up, the ASR# mentioned in radi0avenger's post was incorrect; it should have been 1049342:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistration.jsp?regKey=105374

Note that the site of the tower her friend described is given as "FM 499 1.8 MI E (of) Cumby TX." More precisely the location [in NAD83 coordinates] is east of CR 4720 and north of FM 499, placing it north of I-30 as well.

 

[FlyOnWall]

In case anyone tried looking it up, the ASR# mentioned in radi0avenger's post was incorrect; it should have been 1049342:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistration.jsp?regKey=105374

Note that the site of the tower her friend described is given as "FM 499 1.8 MI E (of) Cumby TX." More precisely the location [in NAD83 coordinates] is east of CR 4720 and north of FM 499, placing it north of I-30 as well.

Sorry folks, that typo on the ASR # was me trying to read my own poor handwriting. With regard to the coordinates, that's what my GPS reported...and the road sign is what I was reading from. All I can tell you is the tower really IS there, and DF'ing confirmed the signal was coming from it. With no TSL/STL antennas apparent, I was speculating on either ISDN or VSAT delivery of program, made even more believable by the telltale audio stutter frequently observed when bit errors on these devices are encountered (more with VSAT than ISDN though.) With ISDN/BRI if you get THAT many bit errors, the call usually drops, so I was betting StarGuide or similar. I could only see two sides of the TX building, so a VSAT dish could have been on the sides I couldn't see. Then again, it could have been a DSL internet stream. I'm SURE it would be whatever is the CHEAPEST!

 

[Triple Fake Jerry]

That's probably the tower of KETR, the Texas A&M-Commerce college station that broadcasts on 89.9.

 

[charles123]

That's probably the tower of KETR, the Texas A&M-Commerce college station that broadcasts on 89.9.

Hey Triple Fake Jerry

Is KETR coming to 95.9?