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Good Karma To Lease 880; WCBS News Programming To End

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Is this another case of a radio group making it “appear” they bill more than they do and it’s really another station in the cluster getting most of the profits?

That's doubtful, since accepted bookkeeping and accounting practices would dictate that revenue be allocated to each station by its billing.
 
I just wish they could keep the WCBS calls. I think that would help them from a sales standpoint, regardless of format change

My guess (and it's only that, since I barely understand the original agreement between Entercom and CBS for call letters used on the latter's O&O television stations) is that either the format change required Audacy to change the calls, or the LMA forced them to do so.
 
Maybe Connoisseur can LMA 98.7 and simulcast THE WOLF,103.1????
Would a single station in NYC work for a small-potatoes (relatively) operator like Connoisseur, or would they be smarter to remain focused on Long Island and Connecticut? It's also been established that New York is a dead market for country music -- too first-generation ethnic, too Latino, too rhythmic.
 
That's doubtful, since accepted bookkeeping and accounting practices would dictate that revenue be allocated to each station by its billing.
That's not necessarily true. Games can be played with regard to how revenue is allocated on a station by station basis. Some third party sources that provide such info usually use estimates, provide disclaimers to that effect, and in some instances are nearly spot on and in other instances are "off" by leaps and bounds, depending on station.
 
The canary in the radio coalmine was when NBC and GE got out of radio in 1988. They could see the writing on the wall. Their stations weren't as profitable as they had been, so they got out while the value was still high. After that, things kept sliding.
And if you look at the significant names in independent operators, from Storer to Metromedia, they were all departing in that era. And the last of the significant 7/7 operators like Metroplex were also gone as consolidations began. And smaller but significant groups like Palmer (Iowa and Florida) were getting out by the late 80's, too.
 
That's doubtful, since accepted bookkeeping and accounting practices would dictate that revenue be allocated to each station by its billing.
It depends. So much of cluster sales is done with combos of more than one station, it's really up to the operator to allocate what they "think" is the portion to consider for each operation.

I know of a case of two stations in San Diego, where one had double the ratings of the other. Yet all combo sales were "booked" at half for each station under the premise that the sale would not have come through without both of the stations being together.

In that case, the Miller-Kaplans reported the station's internal figure, but BIA did a presumed allocation showing a big difference.
 
I’ve seen you mention this before. Is this another case of a radio group making it “appear” they bill more than they do and it’s really another station in the cluster getting most of the profits?
All-News is the costliest format to operate. Just because it has a lot of billing doesn't mean all of that becomes revenue. Taking the LMA fees while continuing the make money off the Mets broadcasts will lessen the overall billing, but it will be nearly all profit with no overhead.
 
Family Radio easily could give Good Karma a few million reasons to sell off 1050, which is in their price range as opposed to, say, 98.7.
Since Harold flushed $100M of company money on his "end times" prediction, then died, their last transaction buying any AM stations was WQEW New York from Disney for $13M back in 2015. They found out really quickly that the value was in holding onto remaining FM stations, then sell when they need a quick influx of operating funds.
 
CBS News Radio is not as good as it used to be. Now it's sloppy at times. The intro has a sponsor on it. Sometimes it has reverb (Likely from WINS) I used to consider it the best. I can see why some stations might not want to run it anymore.

Westwood One shut down their news a few years ago. iHeart has an unbranded feed on Total Traffic

Other than that it's ABC, Fox or AP. USA shut down. SRN is a good deal for non comms and smaller stations but it leans to the right, so it might not be a good fit for everybody.

I'm going to guess WINS will end up with the CBS affiliation at some point. They have a close relationship with Audacy, including online distribution
Yeah. I think the CBS TOH news sounds cheap with the sponsor during the intro. I noticed it and cringed when I heard it for the first time on Litchfield County's 97.3 WZBG.

USA Radio News shutdown? Didn't know that. What I noticed was for around 3 weeks our Classic Hits Station in Suburban Hartford (96.1/990) was running the same 1 minute newscast from USA Radio everyday/every hour. Then all of a sudden the newscast just disappeared.
 
CBS News Radio clearances have been relatively low for decades compared to ABC and others. I know that, at one time, CBS had the reputation of being somewhat inflexible, requiring that the news at the top of the hour be carried at the top of the hour, save for sports and other events. But I doubt that's the case any more. It's putting out a good quality product. There's still at least a little prestige associated with it. So what's the deal? Outside of the legacy O&O's, it's hard to find. In Denver, it's on Salem's KNUS...now there's a combination...during off-hours. (KNUS actually does have local newsreaders.) When GE still owned KOA, that station was the CBS radio affiliate for Denver. In Albuquerque, it's on KIVA, the station I couldn't find last year when I was in the city because it was broadcasting at 1660 instead of its licensed frequency of 1600. (KIVA has since fixed that; see posts I made last year.) In Kansas City, it's bounced around for decades, having been, at various times, on KAYQ (1190), KCMO (810), KMBZ (980); and....? I don't know where it is now if it's present at all. KTRH in Houston was a CBS radio affiliate up until the late 1980s; I thought CBS radio news had been on KPRC at a subsequent time but, again, I don't know if CBS radio is in the Houston market at all now.

You look at this page - Where can I find CBS News Radio? - and you see mobile apps, social media presence, streaming audio platforms, webpages, and then, as if it were an afterthought: "Of course, we're on the air on over 400 radio stations across the United States." That comes along with a map that's hardly readable and no actual list of stations. The map is a static image and isn't clickable. There's no lookup function. It seems that they know they have a distribution problem and have shifted their priority to more direct-to-consumer platforms. That's not a bad idea but I have to wonder how they can sustain a news operation like that.
ABC Audio did the same thing they emphasize themselves as the podcasting label for ABC News. Disney itself was in the process of shifting from affiliation deals to direct-to-consumer platforms when they ended their affiliation deal with Cumulus nearly a decade ago. We said something similar where Disney saw the writing on the wall to lower the demos and look where the target audience is going and they emphasized boosting their podcast operations in the past decade.





ABC News Update is also available on: ABC NewsAudacy • Google Podcasts • iHeartRadioPandora • SiriusXM • TuneInRSS
 
The CRTC is hardly perfect. They allowed telecos to own the major Canadian broadcast chains. Bell is run by bean counters that are gutting the former CHUM stations and the CTV-owned stations at a shocking rate.
I realize that. In many cases I think they're in worse shape than the U.S. stations. I don't know how many stations there are in Canada, certainly not umpteen gazillion like the U.S. And the ratio of government CBC stations to commercial stations, along with the ones in French for the Quebec population.
 
Compared to ethnic or religious? I'd rather have local sports. The other direction WCBS could have gone is the way KRLD is going, with 3rd string syndicated conservative talk. The shows that can't get cleared on WABC or WOR. Those are the choices. I don't consider that quality either.
Oh, hell [pun intended] yes. I'd take sports over religious or ethnic programming, depending on the ethnic programming. If there was one speaking Gaelic, I'd probably listen even though my Gaelic is now rustier then the Tin Man caught in a salty multi-day rainstorm. Just like a lot of things, if you don't use it daily you tend to forget how to speak/use/wear it. Couldn't call on my long dead grandparents or great-grandparents to translate for me.
 
If the demos for 880 were too old with a top-tier heritage news station, then how can anyone think they will be any different, better or younger for a sports talk format with no history or brand awareness on the frequency? Virtually no 30-year old or 40-year old is going to find that AM radio station and start listening to it now, especially when ESPN already trails WFAN by a mile, and even more so since WFAN will still be on FM.

I guess bankrupt Audacy gets lucky enough to rent out the signal and collect a juicy do-nothing paycheck but Karmazin's strategy with this is rather baffling.
 
Simpler: W-HudsonSQuare. I agree it's nothing more than a placeholder set of calls that happened to be available. It could have been WZYX or WZYZ, if either of those were available, for all the [three seconds once-an-hour] use they'll be getting.

(EDIT: And they're not. One's an AM, the other's an FM, both somewhere in Tennessee.)
Southern Middle Tennessee to be more exact.
 
I'm going to guess WINS will end up with the CBS affiliation at some point. They have a close relationship with Audacy, including online distribution
If WINS follows the lead of sister station KYW in Philly they will pick up the CBS News TOH but only broadcast them late evenings and overnights.
 
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