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schmave said:
I hope Bally uses Pat Tabler when Manning takes games or series off. I liked his work last year.
Looks like Underwood, and probably Knott, will be there for every Bally broadcast. Doesn't look like they have anyone to step in for either of those two.
Curious as well to see if Hammy takes more games off this year. If this Oakland-Seattle stretch was later in the year rather than at the very beginning, I could see that as a trip he'd skip. I never blame any broadcaster, no matter the age, for taking some time off during the season. I love baseball but that's a grind for six months or more.
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You take the job you do the job. Herb Score and Joe Tait didn't take time off. He has time off during off season.
vjm said:
Hammy has done the vast bulk of the games.

He takes a series off now and then...so what? Rick Manning does the same thing on the TV side.

Austin Carr doesn't do every single Cavs game - last couple of years he has split analyst duties with Brad Daugherty and on games where Brad is on the call, AC does pre/post game.

Old timers never skipped series back in the day...OK, but this ain't back in the day any more.

All over MLB, longtime team announcers take series off now and then...it saves their pipes and allows them to extend their careers...remember, the last decade or so of his career, Vin Scully never did Dodger games east of the Rocky Mountains.

Would it be so terrible if Hammy did a "stay east of the Mississippi River" schedule? He'd still be doing 120+ games out of a 162 game schedule.
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My point is you take on a job you do the job I guess in today's day and age its all good if you are supposed to work 6 days a week and you tell the boss nah man that doesn't work for me I m only gonna work 5 so you have to pay someone to do the other day. He literally has off from November all the way till March that is 4 months. I don't watch the Cavs so I have no interest in them but if Austin is 76 again perhaps let Brad Daugherty or someone else have the job you've done it long enough. Vin Scully Bob Uecker have done baseball way past their primes. They both should've retired 10 years minimum before they did Again that is just me, people love Hamilton so they're gonna defend him I just think it is weak to be taking so much time off when you have 4 full months a year off.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
You take the job you do the job. Herb Score and Joe Tait didn't take time off. He has time off during off season.

My point is you take on a job you do the job I guess in today's day and age its all good if you are supposed to work 6 days a week and you tell the boss nah man that doesn't work for me I m only gonna work 5 so you have to pay someone to do the other day. He literally has off from November all the way till March that is 4 months. I don't watch the Cavs so I have no interest in them but if Austin is 76 again perhaps let Brad Daugherty or someone else have the job you've done it long enough. Vin Scully Bob Uecker have done baseball way past their primes. They both should've retired 10 years minimum before they did Again that is just me, people love Hamilton so they're gonna defend him I just think it is weak to be taking so much time off when you have 4 full months a year off.
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Guards and Cavs wanna keep Hammy and AC.

They're both 70+, so they say "you wanna keep us around, OK, but on our terms".

Obviously, the teams agreed to their terms, so we got what we got.

They aren't blowing the teams off, it's the teams who want to keep popular announcers around, but realize the amount of miles left in the tanks are a bit limited so they pick and choose their spots a bit more.

When you reach the level Hammy and AC are in this town, you kinda get to call your own shots...just the way the world works
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
I just think it is weak to be taking so much time off when you have 4 full months a year off.
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Hammy's been doing this for 3+ decades. He's beloved in the city and is one of the best in the business. He's not a 30-something up an comer trying to prove himself. He's a pro's pro that loves his gig but also is likely at an age where an opportunity to take a baby step away from the overall grind is a way to have a good work/life balance.

I'd rather have 82 games with Hammy than 0 and likely so would his bosses. And I'm glad you are not one of his bosses. Or one of mine.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
You take the job you do the job. Herb Score and Joe Tait didn't take time off. He has time off during off season.

My point is you take on a job you do the job I guess in today's day and age its all good if you are supposed to work 6 days a week and you tell the boss nah man that doesn't work for me I m only gonna work 5 so you have to pay someone to do the other day. He literally has off from November all the way till March that is 4 months. I don't watch the Cavs so I have no interest in them but if Austin is 76 again perhaps let Brad Daugherty or someone else have the job you've done it long enough. Vin Scully Bob Uecker have done baseball way past their primes. They both should've retired 10 years minimum before they did Again that is just me, people love Hamilton so they're gonna defend him I just think it is weak to be taking so much time off when you have 4 full months a year off.
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Uecker still sounds good, but it sucks he doesn’t have a set schedule for the home games and innings he does.
 
Another thing to keep in mind with these guys, especially the baseball guys, is that they are away from their home and families half the month six months out of the year plus six weeks of Spring Training. I wouldn't hold it against any of them, let alone someone with the reputation, tenure and skill of Tom Hamilton, to want to spend more time at home with family if it's possible.
 
schmave said:
I think that day is coming for both Hamilton and Manning. It seems like they're both in pretty good health, although you never know from the outside,
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I like pretty good from the outside...well, maybe a bit porky......OK, a lot porky to the point where if people see me in an elevator going up, they'll wait for the next one "just to be on the safe side". People often think I'm in my early 40s though they're way off by a number of years. But my doc says if they could just see most of my internal organs, they'd think I was in my 90s.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
You take the job you do the job. Herb Score and Joe Tait didn't take time off. He has time off during off season.

My point is you take on a job you do the job I guess in today's day and age its all good if you are supposed to work 6 days a week and you tell the boss nah man that doesn't work for me I m only gonna work 5 so you have to pay someone to do the other day. He literally has off from November all the way till March that is 4 months. I don't watch the Cavs so I have no interest in them but if Austin is 76 again perhaps let Brad Daugherty or someone else have the job you've done it long enough. Vin Scully Bob Uecker have done baseball way past their primes. They both should've retired 10 years minimum before they did Again that is just me, people love Hamilton so they're gonna defend him I just think it is weak to be taking so much time off when you have 4 full months a year off.
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Well then, why aren't today's major league pitchers pitching a full game like Herb Score did way back when?? Instead, they limit most of them to pitch counts, regardless of how great they are doing.

Baseball is a long, grueling season of 162+ games lasting around 3 hours a game -- Almost 10x longer than an NFL season and 3x longer than an NBA season. Yeah, the announcing in a baseball game is much slower paced than football or basketball, but prep time is the same, travel time is the same and you still have to watch the game for at least 2 hours. Why do you think most baseball announcers get to leave the mic for an inning or so each game? Because there are no 20-minute halftime breaks!

The years that Joe Tait was announcing both for the Cavs and The Indians, he either just did the selected TV broadcasts seen on WUAB, or if both teams played on or around the same days, he chose one over the other.

Plus, in MLB, you may have to work up to 2 weeks straight without a SINGLE day off -- even more if you have postponed games or doubleheaders to make up for later in the season. Geez, give Hammy (and other big-name baseball announcers) a break!
 
thenetwork said:
Well then, why aren't today's major league pitchers pitching a full game like Herb Score did way back when?? Instead, they limit most of them to pitch counts, regardless of how great they are doing.
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The game has changed since the days of Rapid Robert and Sudden Sam. Now, it's all about metrics and analytics. And with the ridiculous salaries now, they are much more cautious with players so as to avoid any serious injuries.
thenetwork said:
The years that Joe Tait was announcing both for the Cavs and The Indians, he either just did the selected TV broadcasts seen on WUAB, or if both teams played on or around the same days, he chose one over the other.
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I remember one year when Tait was doing both Cavs and Indians, he did an Indians game in Boston (it might have been on Patriot's Day which has an earlier start time), then he flew home and did a Cavs playoff game in the evening.
 
thenetwork said:
Well then, why aren't today's major league pitchers pitching a full game like Herb Score did way back when?? Instead, they limit most of them to pitch counts, regardless of how great they are doing.

Baseball is a long, grueling season of 162+ games lasting around 3 hours a game -- Almost 10x longer than an NFL season and 3x longer than an NBA season. Yeah, the announcing in a baseball game is much slower paced than football or basketball, but prep time is the same, travel time is the same and you still have to watch the game for at least 2 hours. Why do you think most baseball announcers get to leave the mic for an inning or so each game? Because there are no 20-minute halftime breaks!

The years that Joe Tait was announcing both for the Cavs and The Indians, he either just did the selected TV broadcasts seen on WUAB, or if both teams played on or around the same days, he chose one over the other.

Plus, in MLB, you may have to work up to 2 weeks straight without a SINGLE day off -- even more if you have postponed games or doubleheaders to make up for later in the season. Geez, give Hammy (and other big-name baseball announcers) a break!
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Why should I give them a break? Herb Score did it. Joe Tait did' it. yes Hamilton is good but to be honest I m not going to lose sleep over replacing him. Life goes on. I m sad Jim Donovan had to retire but he had a nice run. I don't want to hear announcers in their 80s and 90s like Caray and Uecker stumbling and bumbling all over themselves trying to get a word out is all I m saying. If the team wants to pay 3 or 4 people to do the job of 2 guys feel free it is their money. Dick Goddard was on the air about 10 years too long IMO. At the end there he was making 6 figures to work maybe 2 one hour newscasts if that a week. To me that is just absurd to pay all that money to someone just so they can hang on. Goddard in 1985? Worth every penny of that big contract.
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
Why should I give them a break? Herb Score did it. Joe Tait did' it. yes Hamilton is good but to be honest I m not going to lose sleep over replacing him. Life goes on. I m sad Jim Donovan had to retire but he had a nice run. I don't want to hear announcers in their 80s and 90s like Caray and Uecker stumbling and bumbling all over themselves trying to get a word out is all I m saying. If the team wants to pay 3 or 4 people to do the job of 2 guys feel free it is their money. Dick Goddard was on the air about 10 years too long IMO. At the end there he was making 6 figures to work maybe 2 one hour newscasts if that a week. To me that is just absurd to pay all that money to someone just so they can hang on. Goddard in 1985? Worth every penny of that big contract.
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Beloved broadcasters will still bring eyeballs to the TV set and ears to the radio and that translates to money in the pockets of the stations and their owners. If a station "fires" a beloved personality, and particularly, if that personality should share in an interview that he/she would have like to continue, that could bring bad vibes to the station and possibly hurt the bottom line ($).
 
CleveRadioInsider said:
I don't want to hear announcers in their 80s and 90s like Caray and Uecker stumbling and bumbling all over themselves trying to get a word out is all I m saying.
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Have you heard Uecker announce a game lately? He still sounds good to me and I’ve been listening to him for about 6 years. He sets his own schedule and doesn’t do every game.
 
radiofan2023 said:
Have you heard Uecker announce a game lately? He still sounds good to me and I’ve been listening to him for about 6 years. He sets his own schedule and doesn’t do every game.
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Bob Uecker is NINETY years old. The fact that he's still calling games at that age and not wearing adult diapers and drooling in his lap is amazing!
 
radiofan2023 said:
You must not know many 90 year olds, they aren’t feebs
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My mother is but then she's had a few strokes and most of the 90 year olds I dealt with as an EMT years ago weren't exactly members of an Olympic Team. And I'm saying this as someone who will NEVER hit 90 unless I pass out in a car with my foot on the gas pedal.
 
Yabadabado1 said:
My mother is but then she's had a few strokes and most of the 90 year olds I dealt with as an EMT years ago weren't exactly members of an Olympic Team. And I'm saying this as someone who will NEVER hit 90 unless I pass out in a car with my foot on the gas pedal.
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Look at Mamie Van Doren, she’s still with it.
 
johnbasalla said:
Beloved broadcasters will still bring eyeballs to the TV set and ears to the radio and that translates to money in the pockets of the stations and their owners. If a station "fires" a beloved personality, and particularly, if that personality should share in an interview that he/she would have like to continue, that could bring bad vibes to the station and possibly hurt the bottom line ($).
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Like I said to each their own. Agree or disagree I just think at 90 Uecker should step aside. There is zero point paying someone 6 figures to work 50 games a year
 
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