Hannah Montana: Did Disney Pull a Fast One?

[RicoGregg]

Some parents are feeling like they've been had:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080206/disney_hannah_montana.html?.v=1

 

[RadioFanBoy]

I don't think they pulled a fast one...From everyting I've heard, every showing last weekend was sold out, and lots of little ones were turned away, and if every showing this weekend at the handful of theaters showing this IMAX or large screen film isn't sold out, it will be very soon, I think. Not the first time a film has hung around in theaters longer than it was supposed to.

 

[jal41]

And all of this after Hannah Montana concert tickets sold out just two seconds after they went on sale at every stop. Parents have every right to be outraged. It is hard to explain to a little kid that the reason they cannot see Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus is because some corporate SOB is out to make money, and the only reason that she is coming in the first place is to fulfill that corporate SOB's desire to make money.

Then there are the parents that will take out a fourth mortgage to pay $10,000 for a pair of tickets, because they will go to any extreme to make their children happy. That is another topic for another time.

They will do anything for a quick buck. Disney did something right in extending the run of this movie. They now need to make amends for the concert ticket snafu by sending Cyrus out for another tour, this time with FREE admission.

I am not a parent (not yet married), but I do know that what Disney has been doing is plain wrong. They are a corporation and they do have to make money, but there is a line that should not be crossed...and Disney crosses it every day.

 

[imhomerjay]

And all of this after Hannah Montana concert tickets sold out just two seconds after they went on sale at every stop. Parents have every right to be outraged. It is hard to explain to a little kid that the reason they cannot see Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus is because some corporate SOB is out to make money, and the only reason that she is coming in the first place is to fulfill that corporate SOB's desire to make money.

Then there are the parents that will take out a fourth mortgage to pay $10,000 for a pair of tickets, because they will go to any extreme to make their children happy. That is another topic for another time.

They will do anything for a quick buck. Disney did something right in extending the run of this movie. They now need to make amends for the concert ticket snafu by sending Cyrus out for another tour, this time with FREE admission.

I am not a parent (not yet married), but I do know that what Disney has been doing is plain wrong. They are a corporation and they do have to make money, but there is a line that should not be crossed...and Disney crosses it every day.

Huh? So Disney is wrong for letting ANY kids see the performer by putting her on tour in the first place? Better that no one get the chance becuase, God forbid, someone makes money?

What's more, a free concert for something like this is a disaster in the making (anyone remember why festival seating was banned in many locations?), unless you change to outdoor concerts in places like Central Park. Perhaps you mean having a lottery for seats, but surely entries would outsrip supply--and I submit the heartborken 10-year-old girl doesn't care a lick that it was just random luck that kept her out of the concert as opposed to her fiscally responsible parents saying no--or the fact that ticket scalp...I mean brokers...scooped up the majority of seats. The end result is the same, and in the case of ticket scalp...brokers...the blame isn't on Disney.

It's easy to blame Disney or the other big corporations. It's also simplistic, lazy and usually misguided. Concerts cost money because in part because there are a lot of people being paid to provide that experience, not just the star. Yes, they make out well, but from the venue staff to the roadies, there are other expenses.

 

[Markxxx]

I can see both sides to the issue, you want free markets but on the other hand, it was these kids that MADE her. This is why concerts need to be seen not as a revenue generator soley but part of a regular package.

The only way to do that is to decide the profit you want then sell the tickets and make them non-transferable. I don't know how, or even if it's possible to do that.

 

[flashback]

disney or anyone else doing the selling of the tickets could put a cap on the number of tickets anyone can buy. enough for a family to get in but not enough for scalpers(I don`t even call them ticket brokers) to get a major chunk of the seats.

I don`t understand why licensed scalpers are allowed to operate. they don`t provide a service and back in the day the people scalping tickets were lawbreakers.

bottom line.yes it is scalpers but disney is also to blame because they don`t give a care about scalpers enough to make it unprofitable for them to get involved.it`s f you we have ours.


this from a "family oriented" company.

 

[imhomerjay]

Simply put, Disney doesn't own the venues, and when all is said and done, the venues can tell Disney to stuff it--there are more than enough concert tours to cover not having a Hannah Montanna concert.

Regarding an earlier point about concerts not being revenue generators, those opposed to copyright protections for artists argue loudly that recordings should be free....let the performers make it up in concerts if people want to see them. OK, so now concerts should be "part of the package"--is that the free package, whereby performers don't make any money anywhere?

Companies charge what the market will bear. Not all of us--and I'm certainly among the "not all"--can afford those prices, but I'm not "entitled" to see my favorite artists at some artificially low price just because I bought their songs and helped make them a success.

 

[MarcB]

Parents need to stop taking their kids to see this no talent hack. The only reason she got a contract is because of who her daddy is. I've heard her a few of her songs on RADIO DISNEY WQEW 1560 AM and her signing sux.

The same goes for the High School Musical BS too.

 

[flashback]

an arena can sell out a Hana Montana concert without selling huge chunks to licensed scalpers this point she is popular enough.

so if disney made that stipulation an arena should have no reason to refuse.besides disney is a big enough corporation that an arena owner would be foolish to cross.in the long run it could cost them a lot of money from losing future concert revenues.
so yes, disney could make that stipulation if they cared enough about the people and still make their profit.

wouldn`t that be a win-win situation?

this goes beyond hana montana. if recording stars did set limits on how many tickets could be sold to one person scalpers would go out of business.of course they would have to care about their fans ,not just a big paycheck.

 

[KML0224]

Hmmm! So you don't get WDZK-AM 1550 from Bloomfield (CT) at all, huh? I barely get it in New Britain (CT). By the way, Hannah is presently being shoved down our throats at Wal-Mart, so watch out!

 

[bhayes1016]

And all of this after Hannah Montana concert tickets sold out just two seconds after they went on sale at every stop. Parents have every right to be outraged. It is hard to explain to a little kid that the reason they cannot see Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus is because some corporate SOB is out to make money, and the only reason that she is coming in the first place is to fulfill that corporate SOB's desire to make money.

The reason that Hannah Montana exists in the first place is to make money for Disney. Manufactured teen idols aren't exactly a new phenomenon (The Monkees, David Cassidy, NKOTB, boy bands, etc).

 

[MarcB]

Hmmm! So you don't get WDZK-AM 1550 from Bloomfield (CT) at all, huh? I barely get it in New Britain (CT). By the way, Hannah is presently being shoved down our throats at Wal-Mart, so watch out!

I should've mentioned this was night time listening. At night I can barely get WDZK. Where I live it's a losing battle with a CBC station on 1550. WQEW 1560 for the most part is crystal clear.

Why am I not surprised to have you tell me Walmart's jumping on the Hannah Bandwagon? I don't go to Walmart very often. In fact the last time I was there (the one on Queen Street in Southington) I was only there because a friend and I were bored chillin' at my house. Well he was more bored than I was because he was falling asleep while we were watching Poseidon on DVD.

 

[KML0224]

I get so-so reception of their New York station. I also get a trace of AM 550 from Pawtucket/Providence at like 9 AM and only if I can find a so-called sweet spot with the AM loop antenna. Same thing goes for AM 1260 from Boston. I often wonder how Disney makes any money off that network when most of it consists of rim-shot AM stations?

Queen Street is CT Route 10, exit 32 off I-84, for those not familiar with central Connecticut.

 

[MarcB]

If the conditions are right I can get Radio Disney on 5 frequencies. (Lucky Me). 550 Providence, 1260 Boston, 1460 Albany, 1550 Hartford, and 1560 NYC.

 

[OhReally?]

this from a "family oriented" company.

You. Are. Wrong. This is what happens people play "cards" like this. They look like a fool. :

They are a company that provides family-oriented ENTERTAINMENT.

 

[OhReally?]

Parents need to stop taking their kids to see this no talent hack. The only reason she got a contract is because of who her daddy is.

You have proof of that? I didn't think so.

The same goes for the High School Musical BS too.

Ahh. This is what happens when people comment on stuff they have not a clue in the world in what they are talking about. I'll bet you've never watched "High School Musical." So, I guess having a 10-year old watch "Grease" would be better. :

 

[OhReally?]

an arena can sell out a Hana Montana concert without selling huge chunks to licensed scalpers this point she is popular enough.

The arena does not sell the tickets. :

so if disney made that stipulation an arena should have no reason to refuse.

Again, the arena does not sell the tickets.

besides disney is a big enough orporation that an arena owner would be foolish to cross.in the long run it could cost them a lot of money from losing future concert revenues.

LMAO. That's funny. You really need to educate yourself, man

this goes beyond hana montana. if recording stars did set limits on how many tickets could be sold to one person scalpers would go out of business.of course they would have to care about their fans ,not just a big paycheck.

It's called supply and demand. Although some states have launched investigations into how/why some tickets went extremely quickly, scalpers will not go out of business. Ever hear of eBay? I'd go get in line, buy the max I could, then turn around and sell them on eBay for a huge profit and know I would get it.

 

[MarcB]

Ahh. This is what happens when people comment on stuff they have not a clue in the world in what they are talking about. I'll bet you've never watched "High School Musical." So, I guess having a 10-year old watch "Grease" would be better. :

I work at a supermarket. We sell DVDs. And we show the new releases of DVDs and they come out. I've seen it 100 times and I do not like it. HS Musical 2.

 

[Braves2005]

I do not think that Miley Cyrus is a no talent hack at all. Have you heard her duet with her dad, "Ready, Set, Don't Go"? It is being played on country radio like crazy. It tells the story of a young girl whose parents don't want to let her go. I like the song and I do like Miley and I also like her dad, Billy Ray Cyrus.

I wonder how many people know that Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana are the same person, only that Hannah Montana is Miley Cyrus under a wig.

And I also wonder who you would like to see as a parent to Miley Cyrus? Miley's mom and dad? Britney Spears' parents? Amy Winehouse's mom and dad (if he exists)? From what I understand, Billy Ray and Tish Cyrus keep Miley from being what Britney Spears and Amy Winehouse turned out to be.

 

[JayR]

Welcome back...

You. Are. Wrong. This is what happens people play "cards" like this. They look like a fool. :

Oh. My. Freaking. Gawd. Are you serious with this? And of course, couldn't hesitate with the unprovable "influencing others" crap comment.

Look who's back...

Same diatribe, different nick.