Hannah Montana: Did Disney Pull a Fast One?

[DToTheJ]

I don't go to Walmart very often. In fact the last time I was there (the one on Queen Street in Southington) I was only there because a friend and I were bored chillin' at my house. Well he was more bored than I was because he was falling asleep while we were watching Poseidon on DVD.

Wasn't that the time you were checking out the display of HD Radios at Walmart?

 

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an arena can sell out a Hana Montana concert without selling huge chunks to licensed scalpers this point she is popular enough.

The arena does not sell the tickets. :

so if disney made that stipulation an arena should have no reason to refuse.

Again, the arena does not sell the tickets.

besides disney is a big enough orporation that an arena owner would be foolish to cross.in the long run it could cost them a lot of money from losing future concert revenues.

LMAO. That's funny. You really need to educate yourself, man

this goes beyond hana montana. if recording stars did set limits on how many tickets could be sold to one person scalpers would go out of business.of course they would have to care about their fans ,not just a big paycheck.

It's called supply and demand. Although some states have launched investigations into how/why some tickets went extremely quickly, scalpers will not go out of business. Ever hear of eBay? I'd go get in line, buy the max I could, then turn around and sell them on eBay for a huge profit and know I would get it.

fine. then the recording artists set a limit on ticketmaster or other companies selling tickets in rare cases it isn`t ticket master. ticketmaster needs the artists as much as the artists need ticketmaster.it could still make it unprofitable for scalpers.it goes to my point of artists caring about fans. not just a big paycheck

my point is scalpers are leaches who cause ticket prices to go higher unnecessarly. they need to be taken out of the chain.perhaps there should be a law on how many tickets one person can buy to an event.


if an act can sell out with scalpers buying most tickets , the box office won`t suffer if they can`t buy up huge blocks.

the supply and demand point isn`t applicable to scalpers.

 

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Re: flashback...

my point is scalpers are leaches who cause ticket prices to go higher unnecessarly. they need to be taken out of the chain.perhaps there should be a law on how many tickets one person can buy to an event.

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thats cool. actually he made me think about my comments and enable me to make them clearer.

 

[imhomerjay]

an arena can sell out a Hana Montana concert without selling huge chunks to licensed scalpers this point she is popular enough.

The arena does not sell the tickets. :

so if disney made that stipulation an arena should have no reason to refuse.

Again, the arena does not sell the tickets.

besides disney is a big enough orporation that an arena owner would be foolish to cross.in the long run it could cost them a lot of money from losing future concert revenues.

LMAO. That's funny. You really need to educate yourself, man

this goes beyond hana montana. if recording stars did set limits on how many tickets could be sold to one person scalpers would go out of business.of course they would have to care about their fans ,not just a big paycheck.

It's called supply and demand. Although some states have launched investigations into how/why some tickets went extremely quickly, scalpers will not go out of business. Ever hear of eBay? I'd go get in line, buy the max I could, then turn around and sell them on eBay for a huge profit and know I would get it.

Ah, someone understands the basics of business....that things are seldom as simplistic as people want them to be. The performers are evil, uncaring about their fans. The arenas are bad. The studios are greedy. There always has to be someone or something to blame, as if we're entitled to some great "fairness" in life.

As to whether Cyrus is good, bad or indifferent, a bunch of grown adults probably aren't the best judges. My parents thought the music I liked as an adolescent was God-awful, and I would bet I'll think the same of whatever my children grow to like. (And really, could it be any worse or grating on adult nerves than little kids' music like Barney?)

 

[KML0224]

Funny how Hannah and Wal-Mart are mentioned together. The poor cashiers up front at my Connecticut store are being stuck with hearing the same company-produced spot with two young girls pretending to be Hannah in their bedroom. (Can I tell you where to shove that "Best Of Both Worlds" crap?) Makes me glad we get the HD channel (and keep the whole wall on mute) instead!

As to what these young kids listen to? How many of them go to the 4-foot end cap, place the bar code of the CD under the scanner so they can hear..."Souljah Boy"? Dear God! Make it stop!

 

[OhReally?]

I work at a supermarket. We sell DVDs. And we show the new releases of DVDs and they come out. I've seen it 100 times and I do not like it. HS Musical 2.

You still do not get it. Disney does not care what YOU think. YOU are not in the demographic. :

 

[OhReally?]

fine. then the recording artists set a limit on ticketmaster or other companies selling tickets in rare cases it isn`t ticket master. ticketmaster needs the artists as much as the artists need ticketmaster.it could still make it unprofitable for scalpers.it goes to my point of artists caring about fans. not just a big paycheck

I don't know how much power the artist might have in setting limits. That might actually have to come from the label and/or the promoter. And the artist does not need Ticketmaster, IMO. TM is being challenged at their own game by many other ticket-retail entities. An artist can easily go to one of them. Look at sports teams, for example. Granted they are using them for re-sale (i.e. season ticket holders), but TM is no longer the only game in town.

the supply and demand point isn`t applicable to scalpers.

Uhh...say again?! Scalpers/Brokers are VERY MUCH relevant to supply and demand.

 

[RicoGregg]

You still do not get it. Disney does not care what YOU think. YOU are not in the demographic. :

They might care at least somewhat. Much of Disney's profits over the years since the creation of both both Disneyland and the Mickey Mouse Club has come from parents caving in to their kids' wishes.

 

[SportsRadioDoc]

Parents need to stop taking their kids to see this no talent hack. The only reason she got a contract is because of who her daddy is. I've heard her a few of her songs on RADIO DISNEY WQEW 1560 AM and her signing sux.

The same goes for the High School Musical BS too.

You don't have a kid do you?

 

[MarcB]

You don't have a kid do you?

No, thank god. That's a scary thought for another time.

 

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the supply and demand point isn`t applicable to scalpers.

Uhh...say again?! Scalpers/Brokers are VERY MUCH relevant to supply and demand.
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I take it back.unfortunatly they are a relevant part of the supply and demand. that is because legislators won`t do whats right and pass laws criminalizing them. because entertaner`s , their management, first line ticket venders ect. won`t limit the number of tickets an individual can buy.which would make a corporate scalper office unprofitable.

like I said earlier, scalpers are leaches, doing nothing but making it even more expensive to see an entertainment or sporting event. they have no place in the entertainment business or society.

 

[OhReally?]

unfortunatly they are a relevant part of the supply and demand. that is because legislators won`t do whats right and pass laws criminalizing them.

Actually, quite a few cities have made it illegal (locally) to sell tickets (on the street) for higher than face value.

 

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unfortunatly they are a relevant part of the supply and demand. that is because legislators won`t do whats right and pass laws criminalizing them.

Actually, quite a few cities have made it illegal (locally) to sell tickets (on the street) for higher than face value.

that is a good start. now if they go after the ones who operate out of offices also it would be really the right thing to do.

 

[radiolives]

Disney is making big bucks on Hannah and the kids love her. Her concerts are sold out and CHR radio stations are playing her new hit song. Sure her dad helped but she is doing the work by singing and acting on her show on Disney Channel and on stage at the shows.

As for another thing Disney Channel is doing why are they showing Lohan's old movies now? She what 21 and going in and out of rehab. So why are people complaing about Mylie shes not pergo like Britiney's little sister Jamie and all of Mylie's news that she makes is good news.

 

[KML0224]

Unless you count the supposed deal about pics of her in her underwear a couple of weeks ago. Nothing dirty about the pictures, so why the big deal? As for Lindsay, Disney will have a grander time now. Have you seen those new magazine pictures she just did? Safe to say there's a 0% chance you'll ever see them on Disney Channel!

 

[radiolives]

You talking about Lindsay or Hannah in underwear? I haven't heard or seen pics like that, maybe Lindsay has some. I know Lindsay just took a nude pic on the New Yorker but she had a sheet on.

 

[mimo]

There were pictures that were leaked of Mylie/Hannah and a friend in what appeared to be boxers and tank tops...no big deal, they were just sitting, lo0ked like they were talking to each other. The only thing that really came out of it was that Mylie said she felt bad that her friend was shown publicly like that, and like a true friend she was concerned about her, and any possible lack of privacy her friend might now experience.

 

[MotoMuzak]

MarkB sez--
"I've heard her a few of her songs on RADIO DISNEY WQEW 1560 AM and her signing sux."

;D Her signing sucks?? I don't know how in the world they'd be able to do that on the radio, but I do know her TV show is closed captioned...... ;D

Meanwhile my ten-year old cousin asked "Uncle Fox" (I'm not really her Uncle, she just calls me that for some reason) if he'd take her to see the HM film at the theatre not too far from where I live ["because Mom told me you would..." even though I never consented to such torture.]

<sarcasm> Well, needless to say the fact that under the authority of "Mom" I basically have been extorted out of 45 of my hard-earned dollars notwithstanding, I now have some idea that the only thing better than listing to 90 minutes (or however long it was) worth of Millie Cyrus in the movie theatre would probably be 90 minutes' worth of incarceration at Gitmo. </sarcasm>

Needless to say the cousin was shocked to see me out in the lobby after the film fiercely engaged in a "Dance Dance Revolution" competition with some friends of mine who "just happened to be there" at the same time I was. As far as she knew I was out getting more Pepsi about 20 minutes into the film. Oh, how naïve younger cosins can be sometimes....... ;o)

;D Next weekend: STEP-UP 2 and possibly another DDR session to follow immediately. ;D