HD in the retail space needs to do one thing...

[arnoldevns]

Unless I am misinterpreting your post (and I apologize if I am)—you seem to place responsibility upon retail locations to promote a new technical genre... This is simply NOT the way retail functions. They didn’t do it with other “broadcast enhancements” such as UHF television, FM stereo, and AM stereo—and they DIDN’T perform that root function with the introduction of CD, DVD, portable mp-3, and even XM! They responded to CONSUMER DEMAND and stocked such products at a time that warranted their cost of “floor-planning” those items.

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Rather than pursue a “scam” that amounts to a conversion of unsold inventory into a tax write-off to promote defective and destructive IBOC, the radio industry needs to focus on the basics—I believe they call it GOOD PROGRAMMING... That’s what drove consumers to buy FM stereo receivers many decades ago. Sometimes the “old idea” is the best idea!

You are misinterpreting my posts to a degree. I have said the people promoting HD radio need to make sure the retailers are doing this right. I place a great deal of responsibility on the manufacturer and even the local radio stations to see to it that people can sample this product. They are, after all, the ones who will benefit the most from the adoption of this product by the public. I also think the retailer is foolish to waste floor space on a product that does not work in the store. But that applies to any product they're selling, not just a new type of technology.

I wholeheartedly agree the radio industry needs to improve programming to win back audience. They can make every station sound like it's CD quality, but if the programming still sucks, people won't listen.

 

[hipporadio]

Unless I am misinterpreting your post (and I apologize if I am)—you seem to place responsibility upon retail locations to promote a new technical genre... This is simply NOT the way retail functions. They didn’t do it with other “broadcast enhancements” such as UHF television, FM stereo, and AM stereo—and they DIDN’T perform that root function with the introduction of CD, DVD, portable mp-3, and even XM! They responded to CONSUMER DEMAND and stocked such products at a time that warranted their cost of “floor-planning” those items.

(snip)

Rather than pursue a “scam” that amounts to a conversion of unsold inventory into a tax write-off to promote defective and destructive IBOC, the radio industry needs to focus on the basics—I believe they call it GOOD PROGRAMMING... That’s what drove consumers to buy FM stereo receivers many decades ago. Sometimes the “old idea” is the best idea!

You are misinterpreting my posts to a degree. I have said the people promoting HD radio need to make sure the retailers are doing this right. I place a great deal of responsibility on the manufacturer and even the local radio stations to see to it that people can sample this product. They are, after all, the ones who will benefit the most from the adoption of this product by the public. I also think the retailer is foolish to waste floor space on a product that does not work in the store. But that applies to any product they're selling, not just a new type of technology.

I wholeheartedly agree the radio industry needs to improve programming to win back audience. They can make every station sound like it's CD quality, but if the programming still sucks, people won't listen.

My answer to your thoughtful post is very simple... I AGREE!

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Huh. Sure looks like a neat little gizmo.......

Betcha they drain double-A's pretty quickly tho, hopefully they come with an AC adaptor.....or one of those things you plug into your cigarette lighter.......

Apparently you did not read the specs:
Access, listen, and record any Internet radio station from around the world (including HD stations) without the need for a computer or HD radio!

Specifications
Audio Playback MP3, RealAudio, AAC, OGG.
Audio Capturing Format MP3
FM Frequency Range 87.5 – 108 MHz
Display Backlit LCD (Blue)
Storage Media/Capacity SD MMC Card / up to 4GB
Wireless LAN WLAN 802.11b
Connectivity 3.5mm earphones, Mini USB
Dimensions (L x W x H) 77.6mm x 59.5mm x 22.7mm
Weight 100 grams
Battery Life/Type Li-ion/5 hrs iRadio, 8hrs MP3 Rechargable battery.
Time shift recording feature with timer option.
http://www.torianwireless.com/products/InFusionSpecSheet.pdf
Hear virtually all the HD radio stations streams, worldwide, any place there is a WI-FI internet connection, without being plugged in to a wall outlet, except for occasional recharging.

 

[MotoMuzak]

Yeah, I didn't...just skimmed over the page kinda quickly and didn't get to look over it too in-depth, because I had an appointment to keep......but thank you for posting that!

"Battery Life/Type Li-ion/5 hrs iRadio, 8hrs MP3 Rechargable battery."

Yup.......betcha they drain batteries pretty quickly tho, hopefully they come with an AC adaptor.....or one of those things you plug into your cigarette lighter (it would have to if it has a rechargeable battery.............)

Sooooo......does Austrailia use the same (perjorative) Ibiquity "HD" radio we have here? Or do they use a DSP to up-sample an analogue AM or FM signal to a Higher-Definition sound quality? (Motorola put out a line of receivers a few years ago that did this, don't know whatever happened to it. From what I understand it could make a scratchy little narrowband AM talker station sound like a wideband FM!)

Kind of curious...................................

 

[SUPERCASTER]

motomuzak said:

Sooooo......does Austrailia use the same (perjorative) Ibiquity "HD" radio we have here?

Australia uses the same methods of internet streaming, and podcasting, as we do here, MP3, Real Audio, aac, aacPLUS, etc. So your question is irrelevant regarding the Torian Infusion, or other WI-Fi internet radios, which are available, compatible, and sold here in the good 'ole USA.
Regarding over the air digital, I understand they are using the same standards as the rest of the world, DRM, and perhaps Eureka, but this has nothing to do with their internet and WI-FI streams, methods, fidelity, or bitrates.
I have not heard that they are much interested in the problematic iBiqity Hybrid Digital system, although they may have tested it.
HD Radios on the air bitrate, and codec are independent of their streaming bitrate and codec encoding choice, and both usually come from the original CD quality source.
Where is your question relevant to streaming WI-FI quality vs. HD radio quality?
Streaming, high bitrate internet/WI-FI can be truly CD quality, while HD Radio can not.