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Hd is hot in cars

As I have stated several times.....I have HD radio (high end units) in two of my vehicles and try as I might I cannot tell the difference between regular FM and HD. They were both offered as original equipment but I sure wouldn't pay extra just for HD.

As I said earlier in another thread I do not listen to any radio in my cars now anyway so all I need is a good amp and a USB port.

What make is this with HD as standard, I am going through heck to find a Ford vehicle with HD and Ford is supposed to be the leader in HD in their vehicles.
 
There is one other as well but why should I listen to my favorite music if it is interspersed with lengthy commercials when I can listen to those same songs with no irritating breaks?

Most HD2s have few if any commercials. I'd be surprised if the one in your area is saturated with advertising. If it is, there must be a whole lot of suckers running businesses in Phoenix, because their messages aren't reaching many ears.
 
What make is this with HD as standard, I am going through heck to find a Ford vehicle with HD and Ford is supposed to be the leader in HD in their vehicles.

Hundai Genesis, standard. I believe all BMW's standard (ours have had it for our last 5 cars). Never checked anything else.
 
Most HD2s have few if any commercials. I'd be surprised if the one in your area is saturated with advertising. If it is, there must be a whole lot of suckers running businesses in Phoenix, because their messages aren't reaching many ears.

One commercial is one too many when I have the option of not listening to any.

I am guessing the salesmen use the HD to sell commercials on the main FM as a no-cost plus to close the deal.
 


Hundai Genesis, standard. I believe all BMW's standard (ours have had it for our last 5 cars). Never checked anything else.

I have one of each and both have HD and both have exceptional sound. Still, I cannot tell any significant difference listening to the same music on HD vs FM. I would rate the Genny's sound better than the BMW X3 but that might be more related to the SUV enclosure of the X3 vs a very quiet 4-door sedan.
 
I cannot tell any significant difference listening to the same music on HD vs FM.

The only noticeable difference should be between AM and HD. The difference with FM isn't with frequency response, but things like signal fading, noise floor, or compression.
 
The only noticeable difference should be between AM and HD. The difference with FM isn't with frequency response, but things like signal fading, noise floor, or compression.

We changed cars last year and I really miss my HD Radio! The highs were sharp and clear and the bass was tight. Now it just sounds listless!
 
It's funny, I just got my first HD receiver in the mail today. An Insignia NS-HDRAD2. Damn good radio, sturdy and strong plastic. Loud speakers and great reception. I had no idea 106.1 WISX had JJZ Smooth Jazz on their HD-2. Love it! I also really love having KYW on 94.1 WIP-HD2. I also love Alt 104 on 104.5 WRFF-HD2. HD radio is pretty awesome I gotta say.
 
It's funny, I just got my first HD receiver in the mail today. An Insignia NS-HDRAD2. Damn good radio, sturdy and strong plastic. Loud speakers and great reception. I had no idea 106.1 WISX had JJZ Smooth Jazz on their HD-2. Love it! I also really love having KYW on 94.1 WIP-HD2. I also love Alt 104 on 104.5 WRFF-HD2. HD radio is pretty awesome I gotta say.

I had the original model, came out around 2012, only difference I can see is the buttons were on the front, extra jack for pigtail antenna (provided), which didn't do much and a side bar to keep it stable, it would fall over without the bar engaged. Also, it would eat the batteries very fast, so I always used the AC adapter, it wasn't good as a portable, reception could of been better.
 
What make is this with HD as standard, I am going through heck to find a Ford vehicle with HD and Ford is supposed to be the leader in HD in their vehicles.

Ford is supposed to be a leader in HD ?!?!

My experience has been that Ford, in most vehicles in its lineup, only has HD Radio as standard equipment in its top-of-the-line trims. I did have the opportunity to hear Ford OEM radios with HD in two different vehicles, and in both cases, it did sound really, really good!! (In both cases, the driver was listening to an HD-1 station on the FM band.)

I've also heard HD radio on FM in a 2016 Chevy Impala on numerous occasions. It sounds no better than analog FM in my car. And the non-HD analog FM stations on that unit sound pretty lousy! HD2 channels drop out frequently when driving between hills.
 
" That means only the company that owns it can actually market it."

Not exactly true, they could enter into an arrangement for someone else to market it, but yes, as the trademark owner, they would be able to control anyone who does market it.

HD never had the capital to subsidize receivers into many cars, which is how satellite radio gained penetration. I suppose it paid off for Sirius/XM as they are viable now. A similar effort with HD would certainly lead to higher adoption rates and ad revenue for the stations. The technology will endure, if for no other reason than it serves to provide a primary frequency to allow translators, but is unlikely to gain wide acceptance unless and until automakers are essentially paid to include receivers in the majority of vehicles.
 
I sold my car years ago (live and work in the city) but after having HD radio, I never want to drive without it. I'm not saying I'd make a car buying decision based on it but I'd go into that deal knowing for sure that an after-market stereo will be installed ASAP. (I would make a car rental decision based on whether it has HD.)

I think HD radio could still take off...but it won't because that would take a concerted and unified effort by the industry (the radio industry; not iBiquity) to put on interesting programming and market it correctly. It's a shame to see good tech relegated to nothing more than a driver for translators. What a waste.
 
" That means only the company that owns it can actually market it."

Not exactly true, they could enter into an arrangement for someone else to market it, but yes, as the trademark owner, they would be able to control anyone who does market it.

HD never had the capital to subsidize receivers into many cars, which is how satellite radio gained penetration. I suppose it paid off for Sirius/XM as they are viable now. A similar effort with HD would certainly lead to higher adoption rates and ad revenue for the stations. The technology will endure, if for no other reason than it serves to provide a primary frequency to allow translators, but is unlikely to gain wide acceptance unless and until automakers are essentially paid to include receivers in the majority of vehicles.

HD has no payback game plan were they to subsidize car radios. Sirius does with listener subscription fees.

The radio industry is more interested in getting a viable position in new media like smartphones and smart speakers. That is where consumers are going.

Since half of radio listening is not in the car, and people are not buying new radios, the battle is for a presence in new media, not HD stuff.
 
The radio industry is more interested in getting a viable position in new media like smartphones and smart speakers.

And even there, there is no direct payback as there is with satellite. But the writing is on the wall, and the phone is now a radio. Kind of the reverse of what Marconi intended. He hoped radio would replace the phone. That changed when phones became wireless.
 
So what doe this mean for all those traditional medium sized black/grey/silver Sony AM/FM CD/Cassette Radios and Boom Boxes that we grew up with in the 1980's and 1990's? Are they going to end up in the deadline as well? (yeah, I know most you you out there have stopped using them once the smartphone came out, but I still remember them very well and what they looked like. ;)

Now that almost everyone in the US has some kind of smartphone, I have to say it kinda feels "different" listening to music coming out of your phone vs a regular radio.

Since I use my phone or desktop computer for music, (I have XM and Apple on there) every time I look at my desktop radio on my nightstand it's only purpose seems to be showing the time, (sure it still has a CD player and radio setting), but since KRTH has gone in a different direction and because KSURF's signal is very weak on a regular receiver, (it works fine on my phone) I...I just can't seem to enjoy the glory on traditional FM like I once did. Yes it hurts, but what can I do??? :(

Maybe someday AM/FM will wake up and realize there's still hope that will allow them to complete with the new digital platforms while still offering listeners (even the music geeks who like BIG Playlists) an alternative who don't want to "pay" $10 a month to hear their favorite hits.

just my two cents.
 
Maybe someday AM/FM will wake up and realize there's still hope that will allow them to complete with the new digital platforms while still offering listeners (even the music geeks who like BIG Playlists) an alternative who don't want to "pay" $10 a month to hear their favorite hits.

Not sure what you're trying to say here. The facts show that AM/FM radio consistently has more listeners than the $10 a month platforms. So there's no need to "wake up."
 
Not sure what you're trying to say here. The facts show that AM/FM radio consistently has more listeners than the $10 a month platforms. So there's no need to "wake up."

Not to mention that Mother Nature is seeing to it that the pool of nostalgic, neglected music geeks longing to hear '60s and '70s hits unheard on radio in most markets for at least four decades is being depleted at a rate that increases with each passing year. Why would radio want to "wake up" and increase appeal to a statistically tiny group of former listeners who are well on their way to becoming former living beings?
 
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