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HD Radio in NYC Thread

Speaking of HD, is there any reason why WCBS 880 doesn't broadcast the yankees games in HD? Everytime I tune in for the game its in analogue. I know I'm 1 of 3 that have a HD radio in my car but the news sounds good in HD, why not the game?
 
Hardrocker9 said:
Speaking of HD, is there any reason why WCBS 880 doesn't broadcast the yankees games in HD? Everytime I tune in for the game its in analogue. I know I'm 1 of 3 that have a HD radio in my car but the news sounds good in HD, why not the game?

Because that's an extra 7-8 seconds of delay.

Maybe you should drive out somewheres to the country where there's no radiated interference to listen to the Yankees.

You could also help by throwing away any lamp dimmers you own, and unplugging any switching power supplies not in actual use.
RF noise is everyone's responsibility, especially since the FCC has given up responsibility for part 15 unintentional radiator compliance.
 
Hardrocker9 said:
Speaking of HD, is there any reason why WCBS 880 doesn't broadcast the yankees games in HD? Everytime I tune in for the game its in analogue. I know I'm 1 of 3 that have a HD radio in my car but the news sounds good in HD, why not the game?
I believe that the Yankees games are also broadcast on WCBS FM 101.1 HD2.
 
Tom Wells said:
Because that's an extra 7-8 seconds of delay.
How does one know?
In fact, does it really matter if one hears or views a game a minute, an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a score, a century, a millennium, or an eon later, if they think it is live?
 
ai4i said:
Tom Wells said:
Because that's an extra 7-8 seconds of delay.
How does one know?
In fact, does it really matter if one hears or views a game a minute, an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a score, a century, a millennium, or an eon later, if they think it is live?

Depends who you ask.
It's known as "ballgame mode" for a reason.
There are still fossils listening to AM in the stands.
 
Tom Wells said:
ai4i said:
Tom Wells said:
Because that's an extra 7-8 seconds of delay.
How does one know?
In fact, does it really matter if one hears or views a game a minute, an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a score, a century, a millennium, or an eon later, if they think it is live?

Depends who you ask.
It's known as "ballgame mode" for a reason.
There are still fossils listening to AM in the stands.

There are also people watching the games on TV but turning off the TV audio and getting it from 880.
 
If it is getting this complicated, how about if the TV also gets delayed, or better yet, can't the announcers Just predict what is about to happen and prereport what is happening by a few seconds, they are getting paid enough ::)
 
Barry said:
Heard K-Love 96.7 today in HD for the first time.
They evidently have some adjusting to do, as the broadcast falls silent once the HD signal kicks in. The display shows WCTZ FM, the callsign of the former occupant of the frequency, instead of WKLV.
Perhaps they plan to eventually broadcast sister service Air1, with its Christian CHR format, on HD2.
About a day after this was originally posted, K-Love switched off the HD. But now the display shows RDS information, such as the name of the songs that are played.
 
Barry said:
About a day after this was originally posted, K-Love switched off the HD. But now the display shows RDS information, such as the name of the songs that are played.

EMF does not typically do HD (unless it's leasing an HD-2 for a translator feed) ... So I am guessing they had been planning on turning off the IBOC on 96.7 for awhile and finally got to doing so.
 
xmusicmatt said:
Barry said:
About a day after this was originally posted, K-Love switched off the HD. But now the display shows RDS information, such as the name of the songs that are played.

EMF does not typically do HD (unless it's leasing an HD-2 for a translator feed) ... So I am guessing they had been planning on turning off the IBOC on 96.7 for awhile and finally got to doing so.
They probably got the same transmitter from Cox, which was an HD transmitter. They might have been tweaking with the RDS settings and turned the HD feature on. The fact that there was no audio on the HD1 meant that they didn't test the HD themselves. There were no complaints, so that means no one was listening to K-Love on an HD radio.
 
In the past few months, WNOW 92.3 HD has received a power boost from 1% to 4% of the primary signal. I noticed it has been much easier to receive since early summer. A check of the FCC database confirmed the power increase on HD.
So alternative rock fans should be able to receive a considerably more solid signal from K-Rock, WNOW HD2.
 
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Does anyone know if WNEW HD broadcasts at low power? I always have a very hard time pulling in their HD2 smooth jazz station.
 
Whenever I go through Staten Island, WWFS's HD barely works, and it drops off in NJ one of the first, so I am guessing yeah.
 
I actually purchased an HD table radio in 2006 and am disappointed that it didn't catch on. It would give an opportunity for "fading formats" to live on. I do listen to 102.7 HD2 Smooth Jazz, but if there are so few HD radios out there and the range is limited, why are the major companies still supporting their HD2 stations?
 
There have not been any filings with the FCC regarding the digital signal of WWFS 102.7 since 2005. So it would be a safe bet their HD signals are running at the standard 1% of the analog signal (only about 60 watts). As I mentioned, when stations boost their HD power to 4% or higher, it results in a significant improvement, at least in this area.
As to why stations are still running HD2/HD3's, there are ways broadcasters can monetize them, or at least have the potential to do so. An increasing amount of side channels around the country are being used to feed FM translators, resulting in what seem to listeners to be regular radio stations. A local example of this arrangement is WQHT HD2. It is leased by HumDesi Radio and broadcasts to people of Indian descent. Translators in parts of NJ that have a large population of people from India relay the programming from the HD2.
 
So basically HD radio's big attraction is being a loophole to get new stations on the air and dodge ownership caps. Hot 97 doesn't need 2 translators in Edison. I think translators should be forced to translate the main signal in the same format. So if it's an HD2, the translator should be forced to translate it in HD, not analog.
 
HD radio rebroadcasts on translators can also benefit smaller owners, not just the giants.
KORL FM in Honolulu has separate formats on HD2, HD3 and HD4. Each is rebroadcast on translators.
It is now able to promote 4 separate "stations", all emanating from one licensed FM facility.
I believe the additional variety on the airwaves can serve the public.

Honolulu's Real Rock (KORL HD2): http://korl1015.com/
 
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So basically HD radio's big attraction is being a loophole to get new stations on the air and dodge ownership caps.

Loophole? Dodge? Not at all....just let's station utilize their signal to the fullest.

Loophole and dodge are words used by people who for some reason dislike HD.
 
Nitch is the way to go. Think about a community that is not being served and is willing to shell out the

$50 or more for the radios so they can listen. Perhaps a foreign language broadcast or a feed from an overseas station. Look to the bottom of the dial and also pirate programming. Pirates have known for a long time that serving s small local ethnic community can bring in the advertising money. Also some of the universities have very fine programming but only a crappy signal, students and others may be interested in hearing new music or educational programming.

Same rule for religious programming, there are smaller fringe religious groups that would be happy to pay for airtime and even help promote the HD broadcast, all communities like this are very quick to tell their friends about any station that serves them.

Remember, even a small audience can bring in the revenue if the advertisers get good results or want to target a specific group. Some of them will even pay extra for it. You sell it as a “special broadcast” a premium. Few listeners are better than no listeners, as was the case with popular programming.
 
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