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"HD Radio - two years later"

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PocketRadio

"HD Radio - two years later"

"And, two years later, here's a picture of what our industry's efforts have produced at the point of purchase in one Orange County Best Buy. We have a lot of work to do." :D

http://www.hear2.com/2007/05/hd_radio_two_ye.html#comments

Sorry guys, I'm switching divisions at work and will be off for the next two weeks ! Last time I emailed Ramsey, he said that it was time to move past HD Radio - surprised to see this post ! :D
 
PocketRadio said:
"And, two years later, here's a picture of what our industry's efforts have produced at the point of purchase in one Orange County Best Buy. We have a lot of work to do."
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Of course, it is only 10 months after the "official" post-test launch, and only a few months after the FCC approved HD. Interestingly, since the FCC approved HD, we have seen the major consumer electronics company, Samsung, develop a chipset that could be shipping in 6 months.


Last time I emailed Ramsey, he said that it was time to move past HD Radio - surprised to see this post ! :D
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But, conveniently, you fail to post Ramsey's comments that blogs and boards tend to attract the two extreme fringes at either side of reality for 95% of the country. You quote out of contxt, mis-state dates and totally miss the fact that the Top 100 markets are virtually HD complete on the viable facilitities.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Of course, it is only 10 months after the "official" post-test launch, and only a few months after the FCC approved HD. Interestingly, since the FCC approved HD, we have seen the major consumer electronics company, Samsung, develop a chipset that could be shipping in 6 months.
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"Apple Introduces the New iPod" July 2004

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/jul/19ipod.html

"First HD Radio Sold" January 2004

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/ibiquity.html

Now, look at Google Trends for the new iPod versus HD Radio:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+ipod&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

A perfect example of two entertainment mediums released at the same time, where only one has been a success story. You, and every other HD/IBOC supporter are under the misconception that, "if they build it, they will come" - what will be your excuse next year, at this time, when the graph for "HD Radio" is still a flat line ?
 
lame comparison with the IPOD... The IPOD does not require millions of dollars of transmitter/STL infrastructure... It only requires the spending of a few hundred dollars in disposable income. apples and oranges.

surprised anybody would siriusly make that comparison.
 
notalent said:
lame comparison with the IPOD... The IPOD does not require millions of dollars of transmitter/STL infrastructure... It only requires the spending of a few hundred dollars in disposable income. apples and oranges.

surprised anybody would siriusly make that comparison.
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You have totally missed my point - I was only trying to show the graph of a successful technology, versus a failed technology, that were released at the same time.
 
you missed my point... the IPOD does not require a third party spending millions to make the infrastructure possible before consumers can buy the product.
 
notalent said:
you missed my point... the IPOD does not require a third party spending millions to make the infrastructure possible before consumers can buy the product.
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To the average consumer buying an Ipod, mp3 player, or HD radio they could care less how much the broadcasters had to spend to implement HD radio at their stations.
They walk right into a retail outlet and make their buying decisions at that point.. and if satelite, or the Ipod looks much more doable than an HD radio which makes no sense to them at that moment they'll be walking out with a portable player as my son and daughter did and millions of other consumers like them!

Sorry but insisting how much radio stations spent to implement HD radio is a worthless comparison as well.

Radiopilot
 
Went into Best Buy last night:

ME: Do you have any HD Radios?

Sales Assistant: I think Sony has one... or JVC. But one of them has an add on receiver which we don't carry at the moment. Our website has more information.

ME: Thank you.

On my way out I pass two displays for Sirius and XM. Way to go! Nice to know Sony is on board ::)
 
DavidEduardo said:
and totally miss the fact that the Top 100 markets are virtually HD complete on the viable facilitities.
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Also, the same could probably have been said for AM stereo in 1987. Most of the big AM'ers in the top markets were running Am stereo... look where that got us... and at least THERE... the damn radios where STOCK in all Chrysler and high end GM models (and a Ford or two... and even a Toyota here and there).
 
I was amused to notice in the latest issue of the ARRL's magazine, "73," that one manufacturer of ham radio transceivers was touting a new radio with.... get this... an ipod input.

I would never expect such a radio to have HD capability, but I was a little surprised to think that hams are sitting around listening to their ipods between QSO's. Time are changing....
 
you continue to miss the point.

The point is about content.

when the IPOD came on the market the MP3 was already invented. Virtually every song anyone could want available free online the moment you bought your IPOD.

When the HD tuner came on the market there was no content available at first. It is just now being rolled out. Not millions of songs available the instant you take your new purchase home.

Of course IPOD sold more.

MP3 tech has been around for over 10 years.

HD radio is in its infancy. officially approved by the FCC two months ago.

comparing sales of the two technologies at this point is a very weak arguement against HD radio.

end of story.

why dont you just come out and say why you really dont like HD radio instead of making superfluous weak points??
 
notalent said:
you continue to miss the point.

The point is about content.

when the IPOD came on the market the MP3 was already invented. Virtually every song anyone could want available free online the moment you bought your IPOD.

When the HD tuner came on the market there was no content available at first. It is just now being rolled out. Not millions of songs available the instant you take your new purchase home.

Of course IPOD sold more.

MP3 tech has been around for over 10 years.

HD radio is in its infancy. officially approved by the FCC two months ago.

comparing sales of the two technologies at this point is a very weak arguement against HD radio.

end of story.

why dont you just come out and say why you really dont like HD radio instead of making superfluous weak points??
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Hd Radio has been broadcast experimentally by over hundreds of stations acroos America in the Top 100 markets since 2004:

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2004

Also the HD radios have been out at least that long... so I think you may be wrong.
I've been following HD radio since 2002 and it's implementation.

Radiopilot
 
radiopilot said:
Hd Radio has been broadcast experimentally by over hundreds of stations acroos America in the Top 100 markets since 2004:

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2004

Also the HD radios have been out at least that long... so I think you may be wrong.
I've been following HD radio since 2002 and it's implementation.

Radiopilot
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OK, now I don't want to start a fight, but the whole "Hundreds of stations in the top 100 markets since 2004" is a bit of a stretch. While "Licensed" and " broadcasting or ...in the process of converting" is the phrasing used, the devil is in the details. The "convertING wasn't exactly done overnight.

The first Multicast capable radio wasn't released until (Alledgedly) Christmas 2005.
http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2005/74
In fact "Multicasting in each of the top 100 markets happened....A week ago today...

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2007/1030

That's not "Every station in the top 100 markets is multicasting." That "There is at least ONE station in every topp 100 market multicasting."

While you may "Technically" be correct, I don't think that point refutes NoTalents claim that ...

HD radio is in its infancy.
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Clouseau
 
radiopilot said:
Hd Radio has been broadcast experimentally by over hundreds of stations acroos America in the Top 100 markets since 2004:

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2004

Also the HD radios have been out at least that long... so I think you may be wrong.
I've been following HD radio since 2002 and it's implementation.

Radiopilot
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"First HD Radio Sold"

"Digital Corporation announced today that an Iowa buyer became "first in the nation" to purchase an HD Radio tuner. Nathan Franzen purchased a Kenwood KTC-HR100 HD Radio tuner from the Ultimate Electronics store in Cedar Rapids, Iowa on Monday, January 5, 2004."

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/ibiquity.html

Interesting - I didn't realize that HD Radio had started to rollout 2 1/2 years ago. If this technology was going to take-off, it would have done so by now.
 
PocketRadio said:
radiopilot said:
Hd Radio has been broadcast experimentally by over hundreds of stations acroos America in the Top 100 markets since 2004:

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/news_releases/2004

Also the HD radios have been out at least that long... so I think you may be wrong.
I've been following HD radio since 2002 and it's implementation.

Radiopilot
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Funny, but weren't the Pro-HD crowd indicating that Ibiquity had no way of telling how many radios got sold, yet they have this guy purchasing on 2-1/2 years ago and the fact that he was the first in doing so...

Digital inventory systems... who would have known. LOL! :eek:


Radiopilot
"First HD Radio Sold"

"Digital Corporation announced today that an Iowa buyer became "first in the nation" to purchase an HD Radio tuner. Nathan Franzen purchased a Kenwood KTC-HR100 HD Radio tuner from the Ultimate Electronics store in Cedar Rapids, Iowa on Monday, January 5, 2004."

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/ibiquity.html

Interesting - I didn't realize that HD Radio had started to rollout 2 1/2 years ago. If this technology was going to take-off, it would have done so by now.
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More disingenous garbage...

PocketRadio said:
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/ibiquity.html

Interesting - I didn't realize that HD Radio had started to rollout 2 1/2 years ago...
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Another Bold Faced Fabrication

ON April 19th Supercaster posted the link to the first radio sold in the following link...
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,69166.msg495829.html#msg495829

Pocket Radio Answered...
"Nice job, SUPERCASTER !" in this link.
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,69166.msg495831.html#msg495831

And now you would have us believe this quote is true?

PocketRadio said:
Interesting - I didn't realize that HD Radio had started to rollout 2 1/2 years ago.
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Uhhhh Right.

Clouseau
 
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