HD ratings

[halloaaryn]

So im guessing its too early for ratings on the HD channels but do we even know what the most listened to HD station is?

 

[Mike Walker]

I'm not sure Arbitron has given it much thought, or if there's even a method of determining whether someone listening to, say, WLYT Charlotte is listening to analog, HD1, or HD2. As the change is made to the "Portable People Meters" over time, the "problem" will likely correct itself, as things like "WLYT HD2" are encoded so that the PPM automatically logs listening.

 

[davideduardo]

So im guessing its too early for ratings on the HD channels but do we even know what the most listened to HD station is?

Arbitron has just developed a new diary with instructions to indicate "any" station, including internet, that is being listened to. There is still a lot of debate on how to identify HD-2 channels and in the diary, all depends on the listener specifying they were liswtening to the HD-2 channel. If they just write the calls or dial position, credit goes to the main channel.

With the PPM, the additional channels are separately encoded, so identification is easy.

 

[PocketRadio]

So im guessing its too early for ratings on the HD channels but do we even know what the most listened to HD station is?

There are only a few tens-of-thousands of HD radios in the hands of consumers - amusing question !

 

[Mike Walker]

Fanfare has sold a thousand of their HD monitors, and those are pretty much only going to radio stations! There are a helluva lot more HD radios out there than you think. How do I know? Friends of mine at HD stations say they're receiving numerous calls from listeners a week commenting on their streams, and yelling if something goes wrong. That's the kind of response stations only get WHEN THEY HAVE LISTENERS.

Yes my evidence is circumstantial. But the "circumstance" is the experience of people who actually work in radio, and deal with listeners, and a result of their REAL reactions to the radios, programming, and technology. Not what some HD hater thinks should be their experience, but their REAL EXPERIENCE! Want to know how HD is being received? ASK AN ENGINEER OR PROGRAMMER AT AN HD STATION! They deal with REAL LISTENERS all the time.

 

[clouseau]

Fanfare has sold a thousand of their HD monitors, and those are pretty much only going to radio stations! There are a helluva lot more HD radios out there than you think. How do I know? Friends of mine at HD stations say they're receiving numerous calls from listeners a week commenting on their streams, and yelling if something goes wrong. That's the kind of response stations only get WHEN THEY HAVE LISTENERS.

Yes my evidence is circumstantial. But the "circumstance" is the experience of people who actually work in radio, and deal with listeners, and a result of their REAL reactions to the radios, programming, and technology. Not what some HD hater thinks should be their experience, but their REAL EXPERIENCE! Want to know how HD is being received? ASK AN ENGINEER OR PROGRAMMER AT AN HD STATION! They deal with REAL LISTENERS all the time.

Mike,

I don't expect anyone to believe you.

That said, If has been my experience that a VERY few Squeaky wheels can get the grease. I once worked at a place where the station was not really receivable at the main studio. (Yeah Yeah I know) It was a station that NEVER showed in the book, but still there were calls with the famous "Do you know you are off the air?".

Gotta love it. Someone love almost everything. (Look at internet radio).

Here's how I look at it. Yesterday I posted here about HD radio. And TODAY iposted about HD radio. Even the Anti Group knows in their heart..... There are more listeners today than yesterday.

I enjoy poking fun at them. but only because they have lost and don't even know it.

Will HD become ubiquitous? (Or is that Ibiquitous. I don't know.

But if my hope about this issue was based on a "We will let the marketplace determine the speed of the digital transition", quote, I'd have to question my sanity.

Clouseau

 

[Chuck]

Fanfare has sold a thousand of their HD monitors, and those are pretty much only going to radio stations!

OK, I'm confused here. The only HD radio that I know of that Fanfare makes is the FP-TRO which is for translator use. I guess it would make a good off air receiver too, but so would the Sangean for a lot less money. Most stations I know of are using DaySequerra or Belar receivers for monitoring. Am I missing something? With 1300 HD stations, 1000 Fanfares for monitoring seems out of line. Are they being used by translators as they are intended?

I suppose you can guess the next question: Do the translators actually work? Inquiring minds want to know....

 

[clouseau]

I suppose you can guess the next question: Do the translators actually work? Inquiring minds want to know....

In the interest of fairness I'll ask....

IS there a place where I can go and see this work? Call Lettersand Location and Phone.

Or is it the FMeXtra mystery stations?

Clouseau

 

[PocketRadio]

[Mike,

I don't expect anyone to believe you.

That said, If has been my experience that a VERY few Squeaky wheels can get the grease. I once worked at a place where the station was not really receivable at the main studio. (Yeah Yeah I know) It was a station that NEVER showed in the book, but still there were calls with the famous "Do you know you are off the air?".

Gotta love it. Someone love almost everything. (Look at internet radio).

Here's how I look at it. Yesterday I posted here about HD radio. And TODAY iposted about HD radio. Even the Anti Group knows in their heart..... There are more listeners today than yesterday.

I enjoy poking fun at them. but only because they have lost and don't even know it.

Will HD become ubiquitous? (Or is that Ibiquitous. I don't know.

But if my hope about this issue was based on a "We will let the marketplace determine the speed of the digital transition", quote, I'd have to question my sanity.

Clouseau

"Bridge Ratings: Sweat the cell phone and don't count on HD"

"In other words, Bridge says interest in HD radio is decreasing even as your station works hard to increase awareness. What can I possibly add to this honest and bleak picture that I haven't said before? My well-intended warnings about HD's "premature death" seem to be rearing their ugly heads almost two years later."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/04/bridge_ratings_.html

It was only the radio-geeks buying HD radios !

 

[Mike Walker]

What the hell do you think is accomplished by posting the same link dozens and dozens of times? NOBODY IS READING IT, DUDE!

Fanfare's tuner is for both translator and studio monitoring use. They do sell them to audiophiles as well. It's a very expensive, high-end product, and they've sold a thousand (reference: ad in Radio World thanking customers for buying the "first thousand" of their HD tuners).

 

[scanman1]

Man, I wish I could afford one of those Fanfare tuners, unfortunately, it's not in the budget! 8)

 

[Chuck]

Man, I wish I could afford one of those Fanfare tuners, unfortunately, it's not in the budget! 8)

Their analog tuners are great. I would imagine that their HD version is built with the same quality of materials and craftsmanship.