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Radioandrecords.com is reporting that the HD Alliance, a group represented by many of the major broadcasting corporations, will soon be rolling out programming on HD channels in the top 12 markets, which would include Boston. Springfield and Hartford are also slated to be a part of this initial rollout. The full story is here...

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_01_18/hdalliance.asp

My question is, If there is some interesting programming available, would you seek out an HD reciever to listen to it or go to (or stick with) satellite?

The possibilities are endless. A few ideas I'd like to see would include...

1955-1969 oldies (or All Lost 45's!) an WODS-HD.
Classic Alternative on WFNX-HD.
New releases and local rock on WBCN-HD.
Dance on WXKS-FM/HD,
Old School Hip-Hop or new "Mix Tape" stuff on WJMN-HD.
Deep Cuts and older classic rock on WZLX-HD.
Smooth Jazz or Chill music on WMJX-HD
The old Star 93.7 Rhythmic AC format on WMKK-HD
All Heavy Metal on WAAF-HD
A folk-based AAA format on WBOS-HD
Female skewed talk on WTKK-HD
Classic Country on WKLB-HD
WILD's old classic soul format on WILD-FM/HD
Alternate NPR programming on WBUR-HD

What would you like to see?

Mike Thomas
 
What would you like to see?

The price on the consumer HD radios come down.
 
> What would you like to see?
>
> The price on the consumer HD radios come down.
>

Wait for more to get here. I think we should see more on teh streets by the end of March
 
Update! Greater Media and Clear Channel have announced their HD offerings.

The info on GM is here

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_01_19/greatermedia.asp

And CC's new channels are here

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio/

Mike Thomas

> Radioandrecords.com is reporting that the HD Alliance, a
> group represented by many of the major broadcasting
> corporations, will soon be rolling out programming on HD
> channels in the top 12 markets, which would include Boston.
> Springfield and Hartford are also slated to be a part of
> this initial rollout. The full story is here...
>
http:> //www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_01_18/hdalliance.asp
>
>
> My question is, If there is some interesting programming
> available, would you seek out an HD reciever to listen to it
> or go to (or stick with) satellite?
>
> The possibilities are endless. A few ideas I'd like to see
> would include...
>
> 1955-1969 oldies (or All Lost 45's!) an WODS-HD.
> Classic Alternative on WFNX-HD.
> New releases and local rock on WBCN-HD.
> Dance on WXKS-FM/HD,
> Old School Hip-Hop or new "Mix Tape" stuff on WJMN-HD.
> Deep Cuts and older classic rock on WZLX-HD.
> Smooth Jazz or Chill music on WMJX-HD
> The old Star 93.7 Rhythmic AC format on WMKK-HD
> All Heavy Metal on WAAF-HD
> A folk-based AAA format on WBOS-HD
> Female skewed talk on WTKK-HD
> Classic Country on WKLB-HD
> WILD's old classic soul format on WILD-FM/HD
> Alternate NPR programming on WBUR-HD
>
> What would you like to see?
>
> Mike Thomas
>
 
> The old Star 93.7 Rhythmic AC format on WMKK-HD

Just wondering if you knew about star937fm.com...
 
> My question is, If there is some interesting programming
> available, would you seek out an HD reciever to listen to it
> or go to (or stick with) satellite?

Can't afford HD receivers. No satellite yet either.

> The possibilities are endless. A few ideas I'd like to see
> would include...
>
> 1955-1969 oldies ... on WODS-HD.

You can already hear them on regular air on Scott Shannon's "True Oldies Channel" on WCRN 830, though in mono AM fidelity.

Also in FM stereo on WATD 95.9 weeknight evenings and overnights, and parts of the weekends.

> New releases and local rock on WBCN-HD.

Covered on regular air every day on many area college stations.

> A folk-based AAA format on WBOS-HD

Already on regular air on WUMB 91.9, with DJ's more knowledgeable about the genre than anyone at WBOS (actually, morning host Dick Pleasants used to be on WBOS). WUMB has expanded their format somewhat in recent years from strictly acoustic folk to include folk-based AAA, some new alternative country-folk and Americana, and some folk-rock.
 
Re: The formats so far... (updated)

Here's what's been announced so far.

Clear Channel (starting January 27):

WXKS-FM: "Artist Channel"
WJMN: "Xtreme Hip Hop"

CBS Radio (launching shortly, possibly on air now):

WBCN: "Indie & Ultra New Rock"
WBMX: "All 80s"
WODS: Super Oldies (from Elvis to the Beatles)"
WZLX: "Lost Classics and Deep Tracks"

Entercom (launching within 30 days)

WAAF: 100% live rock music
WMKK: The return of "Star 93.7"

Greater Media (launching in 2-3 weeks):

WBOS: "Coffee House" (unplugged side of WBOS)
WROR "Laugh Tracks"
WMJX "Smooth Jazz"
WKLB "Classic Country"
WTKK "Classical 2.0"

Looks like with the addition of 96.9 HD-2, classical music will be toast on the regular FM band. But as "Classical 2.0", perhaps "Classical 1.0" is the future HD format of 102.5?

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Re: The formats so far...

Looks like many of the predictions were spot on.

I wonder how many of these will have live (or voicetracked) DJ's, or how many will be automated jukeboxes?


> Here's what's been announced so far.
>
> Clear Channel (starting January 27):
>
> WXKS-FM: "Artist Channel"
> WJMN: "Xtreme Hip Hop"
>
> CBS Radio (launching shortly, possibly on air now):
>
> WBCN: "Indie & Ultra New Rock"
> WBMX: "All 80s"
> WODS: "Super Oldies (from Elvis to the Beatles)"
> WZLX: "Lost Classics and Deep Tracks"
>
> Greater Media (launching in 2-3 weeks):
>
> WBOS: "Coffee House" (unplugged side of WBOS)
> WROR "Laugh Tracks"
> WMJX "Smooth Jazz"
> WKLB "Classic Country"
> WTKK "Classical 2.0"
>
> Looks like with the addition of 96.9 HD-2, classical music
> will be toast on the regular FM band. But as "Classical
> 2.0", perhaps "Classical 1.0" is the future HD format of
> 102.5?

I'm speculating that the WKLB they have listed may be at 102.5, because they will have to spin off a station, which seems like it will probably be 99.5.
 
Re: The formats so far...

I am sure there will be little, if any live personalities as there are few people who can recieve the broadcasts, and fewer members of the public that realize it's out there. So why would ownership pay for a staff? don't we live in the iPod era and in a market with Mike and the totally unlistenable All Music Morning Show? As it is, the tightwads who now run radio as a business hate having to pay anyone and will surely force members of their staffs to do this as a part of their contracts with little or no compensation.

Do we honestly think that these channels will be worth listening to? They're being programmed by the same dolts who have ruined radio already!


> Looks like many of the predictions were spot on.
>
> I wonder how many of these will have live (or voicetracked)
> DJ's, or how many will be automated jukeboxes?
>
>
> > Here's what's been announced so far.
> >
> > Clear Channel (starting January 27):
> >
> > WXKS-FM: "Artist Channel"
> > WJMN: "Xtreme Hip Hop"
> >
> > CBS Radio (launching shortly, possibly on air now):
> >
> > WBCN: "Indie & Ultra New Rock"
> > WBMX: "All 80s"
> > WODS: "Super Oldies (from Elvis to the Beatles)"
> > WZLX: "Lost Classics and Deep Tracks"
> >
> > Greater Media (launching in 2-3 weeks):
> >
> > WBOS: "Coffee House" (unplugged side of WBOS)
> > WROR "Laugh Tracks"
> > WMJX "Smooth Jazz"
> > WKLB "Classic Country"
> > WTKK "Classical 2.0"
> >
> > Looks like with the addition of 96.9 HD-2, classical music
>
> > will be toast on the regular FM band. But as "Classical
> > 2.0", perhaps "Classical 1.0" is the future HD format of
> > 102.5?
>
> I'm speculating that the WKLB they have listed may be at
> 102.5, because they will have to spin off a station, which
> seems like it will probably be 99.5.
>
 
Re: The formats so far...

> > Greater Media (launching in 2-3 weeks):
> >
> > WTKK "Classical 2.0"
> >
> > Looks like with the addition of 96.9 HD-2, classical music
> > will be toast on the regular FM band. But as "Classical
> > 2.0", perhaps "Classical 1.0" is the future HD format of
> > 102.5?
>
> I'm speculating that the WKLB they have listed may be at
> 102.5, because they will have to spin off a station, which
> seems like it will probably be 99.5.

Good point. That will probably happen.

Here's some speculation that could possibly work. With Charles River transferring ownership of WCRB to Greater Media, how about bringing the personalities on board to WTKK HD-2? To pay for the expense, "Classical 2.0" could air commercials, and could be spread to WMGC HD-2 in Detroit (right now it's soft rocker "More Magic") and WBEN-FM HD-2 (will be like the "Rhythm and Gold" concept once it takes to the air). In this way, Greater Media could return classical music to the cities that it was dumped in with little risk. Even if there were no personaltiies, it would appear to be at least a good PR move.
 
Re: The formats so far...

> I am sure there will be little, if any live personalities as
> there are few people who can recieve the broadcasts, and
> fewer members of the public that realize it's out there. So
> why would ownership pay for a staff? don't we live in the
> iPod era and in a market with Mike and the totally
> unlistenable All Music Morning Show? As it is, the
> tightwads who now run radio as a business hate having to pay
> anyone and will surely force members of their staffs to do
> this as a part of their contracts with little or no
> compensation.
>
> Do we honestly think that these channels will be worth
> listening to? They're being programmed by the same dolts
> who have ruined radio already!

I'm also afraid as these roll out over time the existing FM stations will narrow their playlists even more with each cluster offering variety by having multiple formats with little music overlap. I don't know what the answer is but it's an extension of cluster programming & selling. Listeners want control & radio is trying to respond to that need but I don't think it knows how. The younger the listener, the more control he wants, & the bottom line with variety radio is than an iPod doesn't mean variety as much as it means personal taste.

What the hell will diaries look like in the future if HD catches on? Like now, as long as some station in a cluster gets the mentions the suits will be satisfied & extrapolate to kingdom come.

I really think the problem is that today's society won't settle for what's fed to it & will take the initiative to get what it wants when it wants. Look at TV seasons available on DVD. They're one of the hottest selling items. Even flop cult shows sell well. There are people who don't even bother watching the shows, but buy them as the complete seasons are released then watch on their own time with no commercials. It's all control & radio can't offer it. It isn't even radio's fault. Entertaining personalities are the selling point for listeners with any kind of an attention span but that breed of listener is quickly aging out of desired demos.

As far as WBOS & MIKE jockless morning shows, I don't know what those numbers are or what the stations hoped they'd be, but both stations should consider themselves lucky winter is passing New England by & the need for a little more info in the morning on music stations isn't there this year.
 
> One of your wishes has already come true.

You're right:Star 93.7 is returning to the airwaves as a HD2.
 
Re: The formats so far... (updated)

> WKLB "Classic Country"

Yeah! Well, when the price of the receivers comes down, I'll look forward
to hearing that.

Actual Country Song Titles:

Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off--Joe Nichols

Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox If I Die--Joe Diffie

Dropkick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life--Bobby Bare

Here's A Quarter--Call Someone Who Cares--Travis Tritt

I'm A People--George Jones

Fax Me A Beer--Hank Williams, Jr.

The One on the Left is On The Right--Johnny Cash

A Boy Named Sue--ditto (writer: Shel Silverstein)

She's Got A Butt Bigger Than The Beatles (spoof of
"They Got A Love Bigger than the Beatles)--Cletus T. Judd



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> > One of your wishes has already come true.
>
> You're right:Star 93.7 is returning to the airwaves as a
> HD2.
>


Sure is...it's already on.

-mariner77
 
Re: The formats so far... (updated)

> > WKLB "Classic Country"
>
> Yeah! Well, when the price of the receivers comes down, I'll
> look forward
> to hearing that.

A new one just came out for $299 and is multicast capable.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-k3c8LGuvEym/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=257KDHDR1&search=HD+Radio


>
> Actual Country Song Titles:
>
> Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off--Joe Nichols
>
> Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox If I Die--Joe Diffie
>
> Dropkick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life--Bobby Bare
>
> Here's A Quarter--Call Someone Who Cares--Travis Tritt
>
> I'm A People--George Jones
>
> Fax Me A Beer--Hank Williams, Jr.
>
> The One on the Left is On The Right--Johnny Cash
>
> A Boy Named Sue--ditto (writer: Shel Silverstein)
>
> She's Got A Butt Bigger Than The Beatles (spoof of
> "They Got A Love Bigger than the Beatles)--Cletus T. Judd
>
 
More "Actual Country Song Titles" -- David Frizzell, Bellamy Bros., Kinky Friedman and Jimmy Buffett

How about, "I'm Gonna Hire A Wino To Decorate Our Home," by David Frizzell?

And then there's "If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body, Would You Hold It Against Me," by The Bellamy Brothers.

The National Organization For Women gave Kinky Friedman its Male Chauvinist Pig Award back in 1974 for his tongue-in-cheek anti-feminist diatribe "Get Your Biscuits In the Oven and Your Buns In the Bed." One might assume that "Ride 'Em Jewboy" (which is back-to-back with "Biscuits" on Kinky's debut album) is in the same vein, but the latter is really a serious and gentle song that's been said to be about the Holocaust (although, if so, it's subtle and indirect, IMHO). An All Music Guide reviewer, Stewart Mason, calls it "a moving statement of Friedman's religious and cultural faith."

Kinky Friedman's second album included, among other gems, "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore." Friedman also perpetrated an "Okie From Muskogee" parody called -- pardon my language, please -- "A**h*** From El Paso." (Okay, I left a little -- just a little, perhaps -- to your imagination.) I understand it was on the record company demo of his third album, "Lasso From El Paso," but was subsequently left off the official release in favor of a live version of "Sold American" recorded with Bob Dylan's Rolling Thunder Mountain Review. It later turned up on the mostly-live album "Old Testaments and New Revelations" ... One rare Kinky Friedman track is "Beach Party Boo-Boo," the b-side to "Schwinn 24," released in 1962 and credited to King Arthur and the Carrots. The song is about a guy who goes to a beach party but realizes he's made a little mistake, as people are saying, "Wear your pants! Wear your pants!" (Or is it, "Where're your pants?")

Jimmy Buffett has come up with not one but several song-title gems, which might or might not qualify as country:

"The Weather Is Here, Wish You Were Beautiful,"
"If the Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me"
and "Last Mango In Paris."

Jimmy Buffett showed a rawer side with the title, "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw." Come to think of it, I seem to recall spotting a rare (?) Buffett track awhile back with a title along the lines of, "Why Don't You Take Your Drunken 14-Year-Old Girlfriend Home?"


> > WKLB "Classic Country"
>
> Yeah! Well, when the price of the receivers comes down, I'll
> look forward
> to hearing that.
>
> Actual Country Song Titles:
>
> Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off--Joe Nichols
>
> Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox If I Die--Joe Diffie
>
> Dropkick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life--Bobby Bare
>
> Here's A Quarter--Call Someone Who Cares--Travis Tritt
>
> I'm A People--George Jones
>
> Fax Me A Beer--Hank Williams, Jr.
>
> The One on the Left is On The Right--Johnny Cash
>
> A Boy Named Sue--ditto (writer: Shel Silverstein)
>
> She's Got A Butt Bigger Than The Beatles (spoof of
> "They Got A Love Bigger than the Beatles)--Cletus T. Judd
>
 
Re: More "Actual Country Song Titles" -- David Frizzell, Bellamy Bros., Kinky Friedman and Jimmy Buffett

My buddy Chuck Miller's favorite is "I Hate Every Bone In Your Body But Mine."
 
Re: More "Actual Country Song Titles" -- David Frizzell, Bellamy Bros., Kinky Friedman and Jimmy Buffett

> How about, "I'm Gonna Hire A Wino To Decorate Our Home," by
> David Frizzell?

Ooh, yes, I remember that, plus the Bellamys' song. And I used to have a
best of Friedman album--the one you mentioned. My station (WMWM) used to
have an album by the Arizona country rock band Chuck Wagon and the
Wheels ("Disco Sucks, it won't last too long. It's big right now but it's
gonna fade away. Take me to a honkytonk bar, where I can hear me a steel
guitar. I'll take country music any day"). Anyway, they did a cover of
"AH From El Paso" (apologies to Mr. Haggard)

> "The Weather Is Here, Wish You Were Beautiful,"

Yup...and one of Buffet's early hits, "Come Monday", while it doesn't
necessarily have a funny title, is a nice country-pop blend.


> Jimmy Buffett showed a rawer side with the title, "Why Don't
> We Get Drunk and Screw."

The movie The Doctor with William
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