Beats me.I talked to Jimmy Christopher a few hours ago, and wish him the best. I consider him a great friend, and it really sux that he is no longer with the Ticket. I enjoy BaD radio, and part of it was Jimmy's contribution to the show. J
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Wait! Please don't tell me that you think that ABC's gamble with the Twister worked....do you?CatfishJimPrewitt said:
Actually i DO think The Twister has put a dent into the Wolf. I don't think The Twister sounds that bad. Imaging is good. Put together well. Jocks are ok. They're no where near the Wolf's or KSCS's league but they're not bad at all. I agree with another poster on here. The Wolf just didn't seem to have those big ass promotions the last couple of months. I recall KSCS having a couple of kickass contests. When I worked at KSCS, in 2001-02 it was automated overnight while the Wolf was giving away prizes and the jock was doing personality.I think it was a good move hiring Jeremy to the Twister and then on to KSCS. Don't know what happened to him at the Wolf but he's certaintly doing well at KSCS.I've been back in DFW for 13 years and all the changes are just amazing. When i worked at KLIF in 1976-78 i remember all the changes on KNUS99 The Top Banana, Z-97, and even KVIL had changes from time to time. Unfortunately that's radio my friends.It's so sad to see many good people shown the door at the Wolf. But waht are you gonna do. I remember when i was a little kid one of my father's friends was such a penny pincher. I use to make fun of him for being so stingy, but that man when he died had $$MILLIONS$$There's a lesson to be learned.The balance between good business Sense and greediness is a fine line 
Isn't the Wolf on about 8 years of being "the all new Wolf?" Then KLIF goes theopposite way, reimagaing themselves every 6 months, KLIF, Big-570, Talk Radio 570, Fox 570, America's Talk Station, then the "Crap your pants 570" http://commercial-archive.com/b8a1d8b74da6edc60eda471ca5026ed7/2004/decjpgs/570klf.jpgNow with the heavy Fox influence with Bill O'Reily and Alan Colmes, it's just another "all hate talk all the time" clone.The 93.3 disaster, starting out as the Zone, playing something people actuallywanted to hear that wasn't played anywhere else, but falling into the "same old same old" format...then the curious "Merge" format where "every media format is merging onto the internet..." Like sitting in front of your computer is the preferred way to listen to music. Why not "you've been in front of your computer all day...come home, turn on your stereo, smoke someting good and relax"The Ticket has been a success, but throwing away the small but rich"50 to dead" demo on oldies KAAM 1310 was not a smart move...putting theTicket on 570 would have made more sense (and still does today) They needed to "clean house," but as a victim of the defense layoffs in theearly 1990s, typically the real problems keep their jobs and the good peopleare the ones let go.
"..typically the real problems keep their jobs and the good peopleare the ones let go." And that's why today's radio sucks even more than before. Only the butt-kissers and the cheap survive. The product gets worse and worse as the cheap Scrooges that run the big companies take even bigger chunks personally.It will be fun to see how Cume-less falls on their faces over the slash-and-burn going on now. They deserve all that's coming to them.I so sorry to see whosale firing yet again in the name of cheapness. It just sucks.
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that. I worked at KAAM and have seen the Miller-Kaplan numbers for the Ticket. KAAM really only had a handful of billing accounts, and was often used as a throw in on KZPS buys. While the Ticket makes, to use a technical term, an "assload" of money. And Since Susquehanna didn't buy the Ticket till 1996 or so, how could they have put it on 570? Back in that day, Norm was doing mornings on KLIF, Wally and Leon were doings PM drive, and McCarthy, Gold et al were in between. And they were making a mint...Frank Provasek said:
I was an advertiser on KAAM, and I assure you my spots weren't throwinsfor KZPS. We operated a high end jewelry retailer and loved old peoplewith money. When Spence Kendrick bought the station in 1994 from Bonneville,we were told that the new owner LOVED the format and that's why he bought it.Then we heard from Fred Hardy "you ARE aware that 1310 is shopping around for a sportsradio jingle package?" Of course, we know what happened, and Kendrick sold out to Susquehanna about 18 months later, just coincidentally a few weeks after the 1996 Act kicked in. And the early ratings were DISMAL...a sports station that not only didn't have the Cowboys or Rangers, but the Cowboys even tried to stop then from discusssing the games during the KVIL broadcasts. So "guy talk" became the REAL format...little1 said:
If you were the jewelry store, then you, Kuby's, Crest Caddy and about a dozen others WERE the billers back then...Yeah, YOU loved old people with money...funny how most advertisers only care about the 25-54's. That's what makes me laugh about some of the people on here. They really think it's about 'art', about making good radio. Please. It's all about making money. Now more than ever, BTW...Is it possible to do 'good radio" and make money, sure. But those stations are few and far between.....And how many new stations come on and have great ratings? So they were dismal overall. By 1996, if memory serves, the Musers and HArdline were top 5 men 25-54 (i.e their target demo)...Who gives a flying crap if the 12+ ratings suck? It's all about the ability to get ratings and SELL those ratings. For the first couple of years, The Ticket got worse ratings than KAAM. But consistently OUTBILLED what KAAM could do.
My point was that the Susquehanna was mismanaged. The Ticket has beat570 for at least 7 or 8 years. Smart group owners put their best rated formaton their best signal. 570 has a city grade daytime signal covering over 40,000 square miles...1310 about 10,000 square miles. At night 570 puts out a city gradesignal from Wichita Falls to Tyler to Waco to nearly Abilene. 1310 covers FOUR COUNTIES.little1 said:
I, too, have wondered why Susquehanna let KLIF flounder on one of the best sticks in the market while having such a successful station, at least for billing purposes, on 1310. However, someone once pointed out to me that The Ticket is successful with that poor signal. What else could you do on that stick that would make money like The Ticket? The answer is nothing. Also, how much more money could The Ticket make if it were at 570? The ratings probably wouldn't go up much.Frank Provasek said:
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I'm pretty sure The Ticket exchanged hands at least two times between Kendrick and Susquehanna. Didn't Tom and Stephen Hicks buy it when they owned and ran SFX and Chancellor?Frank Provasek said:
Ask Collin County at night...http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTCK&service=AM&status=L&hours=NOf course, Susq bought and upgraded 104.1 FM in Sanger and simulcasts the Ticketto fill in the coverge gap...but....http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTDK&service=FM&status=L&hours=UBut wait, they also bought 950 AM in Sherman so they could build out theirexpanded band AM station on 1700. And they did simulcast the Ticket there for a while, but it still didn't cover Collin County well at night. So...petition the FCC to move 1700's city of License to Richardson (because the poor city has no local radio service) Put up a new tower on some of that cheap land between McKinney and Plano. Now this looks more like it...http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KKLF&service=AM&status=L&hours=NBut then...that's such a great signal in a great demo... they decide to use the 1700 frequency to simulcast 570 !!! Like 570's problem is that people just can't FIND it on the dial...If it's on BOTH ends of the dial, the ratings for KLIF will double, right...Kent said:
This pretty much proves my point on The Ticket. Even adding a decent Collin County signal to the coverage area didn't help much, if at all. Certainly, I agree that it's a stupid move putting a KLIF simulcast at 1700 and that Susquehanna botched that part of the operation pretty badly.Frank Provasek said:
Did that happen at about the same time KRLD was sold to CBS? I lived in Dallas when all of that was going on, and I remember going to the Mavericks' draft party in 1996 when both KLIF and KTCK were there and looking as though they were one. It seems like someone said something to the effect of, "The ink isn't dry on the deal, but we're brothers." And, yes, you're correct about the early ratings for the Ticket. It did very well in demo, and, from what I hear, it still does. Sports radio tends to get mediocre to poor 12+ ratings while doing very well in demo.Eye Lipson said:
Mismanaged? The way I understand it, being a mom&pop (basically), they had to do more with less...And you may be an enginner, but I think this post proves you don't know much about programming. So if they put the Ticket on 570, they could get a good signal from Wichita Falls to Waco. Of course, most sports fans are watching (or attending) games at night, or watching regular TV, or just having an actual life. Have you seen what happens to radio listening habits at night? Sure there's some peeps out there listening. And there's some stations out there that ratings & audience actually go UP at night (Hello Teenyboopers!!!), but Sports? Please. And even if they did get that great signal, so what? Do you really think people are going to drive from Hillsboro or Waco to Plano to buy a car? Like I said before, it's not all about ratings. It's about getting advertisers, and being able to deliver buyers to that advertisers door...Frank Provasek said:
Well they'll have to do something with thier signal at night before the Cowboys season. Cowboys will play several games @ 3:00 so those games will end somewhere @ 6-6:30 and then they are planning to have a two hour post game show. Not to mention the Sunday and Monday night games. So I can see the Ticket moving to 570, unless they are expecting all the listeners along the outer cities to listen to 93.3? It only makes sence to put the Ticket on 570 and KLIF on 1310 & 1700.
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