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Here's what you'll get on HD-2

Re: By the way

> By the way, I see that your "forthcoming" full power in
> "Cincinnati" has been in the Application stage since 1999.
> According to the FCC map, the service contour doesn't even
> get into the city. Maybe Community Public Radio's
> Application for the channel right next to yours will win
> out. They seemed to have a slightly better contour.
>

No, they won't win out. It has already been determined by our attorney. We have 5 points, they have 2. Oh and the signal you see on their contour map is not what it will be in the end. We'll be hitting over 1.5 million households.
The FCC has indicated they will finally be processing these MX non-comms in 2006.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: By the way

Maybe they can kick a "Hail Mary" field goal and tie it up.

Oh well. I can't wait for another Choice FM station to get my Christian Hits fix.
 
Re: This has been fun, yes it has....

> I suspect that if there were interference or technical
> problems on FM and listeners noticed, it would have been
> posted here. Someone would be wondering why a station is
> suddenly unlistenable.

Not yet. There is not enough radios or HD stations out there yet. I will check and listen to these HD signals as they come on. I know that when I was on without a license some of the engineers were screaming that the world was going to end. It was a joke and we were not interfering with anyone. I will admit that these engineers that I have been following could be in the same league as those back in those days, screaming over nothing. If that is the case, I will be the first to admit that I was wrong about IBOC and my full power will become one. But I've got to hear it with my own ears before I go the other way.

>
> As for your past, I really don't care. I'm sure you're a
> hero to some. You still haven't proven to me that you have
> a grasp of what radio is facing. As you stated, your
> livelihood isn't tied to it. I think there's your
> credibility gap. It doesn't matter to you whether this gets
> off the ground or not.

Ah, yeah. I do have an idea of what 'terrestrial radio' is facing. I read about it everyday and have customers that deal with it everyday. But HD, in my opinion, will not make a dramatic improvement unless most if not all of the current stations go IBOC. Then there will be enough 'extra' choices on Free Radio to start to compete with the other digital services coming on.

XM & Sirius services are growing and have become an option to listeners because the way music radio has been programmed in the past. The same 20 songs on every channel in every town. I've been hearing this complaint for years. Not to mention that the music industry has changed in that, in my opinion, a large percentage of music is simply not as good as it used to be. Artists seem to be given contracts based on their looks rather than their talent. So the music is not so good (am I showing my age?). That's why ClassXradio.com has brought this music back that just doesn't get played much anymore. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Bill, you can wake up now

> IBOC FM kills the fringe on existing first adjacent analog
> stations. Start by going to Broadcast.net and joining one
> of their technical list groups where some of the top
> broadcasts engineers outside of iBiquity have been debating
> this very issue for nearly 2 years. This past 2 weeks there
> has been some great reading.
>

OK, so it is not totally scientific.

First of all let me give you and idea where I am... I am about 90 miles away from the FM antennas in downtown Chicago and about 25 miles from most of the FM in Milwaukee.

Last night driving around, I was searching for a few FM HD stations. Sometimes some of the Chicago FMs pop through. Locally we have a 103.7 WXSS running HD. In Chicago there is a 103.5. Since Chicago was coming through a little last night, I thought this would be a great test to see if the HD Sidebands would take out an adjacent station.

The Chicago 103.5 was coming in in full stereo (yes there was picket fencing, sheeesh it is 90 miles away!) ONCE and a while I would hear a little hiss from the HD Signal. But basically it left the adjacent 103.5 signal alone. Even I was surprised.
 
Re: Oh wait. I found one

> I went back and found an HD-FM rant on the Engineering
> Board.
>
> See how the REAL engineers tear him to pieces?
>
> Good job k9ez!
>
http:/> /www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=632053&Board=engineering
>


<VBG> Thank you! It was fun.

What scares me is the mis information going on here. A lot on heresay. There is an HD Radio board. Go ask questions! Dont make assumptions. I know that I needed to educate out staff and even the competitors staff. I have made presentations to our local radio alliance, and have offered to make presentations at our competitors locations. We all need to work together on this. We need to educate each other to make this successful.

I have installed 2 HD systems and just lit up an HD2. I have done a lot of listening to see where there are problems. FM seems clean so far, albiet the range is too limited IMHO.

I still think that HD for FM is a very nice way for broadcast to offer more to the listeners. If you dont understand how to work with the fragmentation of the listeners you may need to go back to marketing and sales classes.
 
Re: Bill, you can wake up now

>
> OK, so it is not totally scientific.
>
> First of all let me give you and idea where I am... I am
> about 90 miles away from the FM antennas in downtown Chicago
> and about 25 miles from most of the FM in Milwaukee.
>
> Last night driving around, I was searching for a few FM HD
> stations. Sometimes some of the Chicago FMs pop through.
> Locally we have a 103.7 WXSS running HD. In Chicago there
> is a 103.5. Since Chicago was coming through a little last
> night, I thought this would be a great test to see if the HD
> Sidebands would take out an adjacent station.
>
> The Chicago 103.5 was coming in in full stereo (yes there
> was picket fencing, sheeesh it is 90 miles away!) ONCE and a
> while I would hear a little hiss from the HD Signal. But
> basically it left the adjacent 103.5 signal alone. Even I
> was surprised.
>

This is great news. I hope that is the case. Because what I have been reading for 2 years now on Broadcast.net (engineer posts, etc.) is that the interference would be really bad. Though, I will admit that I have not experienced it yet because there are not enough HD's out there yet on FM to make an 'actual real world' opinion.
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Tell you the truth. I rember AM Stero. on WOWO Fort Wayne, Nobody except me Had a Am stero reciever in my car... Did not last long HD may be the same way

> > News/Talk WLW HD2 "In-Depth News" must be an info-style
> > channel they're putting on the HD-2 channel. From what
> I've
> > heard, the HD-3 channel has the sound quality of AM and
> may
> > be where future talk formats end up.
> >
> > There's also talk (how legit I don't know) about clearing
> > the AM band and, in exchange, giving displaced stations
> HD-3
> > channels for their programming. That would rid the AM
> band
> > of underperformers and open up more space for nighttime
> > IBOC.
> >
>
> I'll be receiving social security before that happens. If
> you thought consumer groups fought the elimination of analog
> TV, imagine what they would do with the elimination of AM.
>
>
> I am still higly skeptical that anyone is going to buy HD
> radio outside of A)Radio geeks or B) audiophiles. No one
> else is going to spend 250 dollars or more for a radio that
> only gives them 8 or 9 additional stations and even if they
> did you can't buy them anywhere and the Best Buy's and
> Circuit Cities will continue to push the Satellite radio
> models. We are two weeks away from the official rollout and
> I still hear no promotions dealing with HD2, nothing on
> station websites, and no stores that are carrying the
> prodcut. What a cluster.
>
 
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