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Houston and Dallas CBS properties going bye bye!

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Tookiebird

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Just heard from a close friend of mine who works at KILT. CBS is going to sell their complete cluster in Houston!

Also in Dallas!

CBS must really be hurting.
 
That's not the memo I got from CBS. Without going into the whole memo, I can report this: CBS Radio has entered into agreements with Entercom to sell stations in four markets -- Austin, Cincinnati, Memphis and Rochester. The 5th market is San Antonio, which is being sold to Border media. Houston and Dallas are not on that list. CBS is not hurting at all, contrary to what rumors are being circulated. This is all being done because of the recent changes to CBS. CBS radio will be concentrating on their large market stations, which include Houston, one of it's most profitable operations.
 
Since when did they ever tell anyone the truth? Including you? Just remember "where there is smoke theres fire!!!!" The staff is always the last to know!
 
Hey Chuck,

I think you've been given a fresh hot plate of CBS horse---- as we say here in Pearland. :D
 
Settle down folks. I'm just passing along what was given to me in the form of an email. Thats all. None of us really know. If you want to pass judgement, thats fine. If you want to be a naysayer based on whatever info you have, great!

Now, if you really know Chuck Tiller, you know that I don't really give a G$*%#@ S*$%# about any of this because I work for ME! I'm still in radio part-time, because, I love radio as I have all my life. If it does sell, so what and who really cares? While I was at KILT, I survived 4 ownerships. However, I do not put all the eggs in one basket. For me, its always been when one door closes another door opens. If a door doesn't open, I'll yank one open and see if there is an opportunity. As I have done all my life, I will make it happen. I don't sit around and piss and moan about something I have no control over.

If you will excuse me, I have to load my camera into the car. I have a deposition to videotape, in Pearland. LOL. God, I love being independant.
 
RadioStarOne said:
Since when did they ever tell anyone the truth? Including you? Just remember "where there is smoke theres fire!!!!" The staff is always the last to know!

Chuck and all:

I'm sorry, I guess what I really meant to say was: Since when did they ever tell anyone the truth? Anyone of us, the staff is usually the last to know, and this has been played out many many many times!
 
I don't see CBS getting rid of their DFW cluster, with two TV's, five full-signal FM's, and a 50kw AM. Too much potential revenue in a growth market.

Perhaps a bigger possibility in Houston, however, with just two FM's, one decent 5kw fulltime AM, and a peanut whistle AM daytimer. There's really no room for expansion, unless Cox bails out of the market. And I think Cumulus is going to be around for a while, for better or worse.

Numerous players in the market would love to get their hands on at least 95.7. 100.3's format will be virtually impossible to dump.
 
My sources tell me KILT like KVIL/KLUV/KRLD are selling a lot of spots but the rates are way down and lot's of added value attached to them plus the ratings on all those stations have been less than stellar. KILT is a no longer a cash cow. "Patner" would be rolling over in his chair if he saw some of the hair-brained ideas CBS-Houston has done recently!!!!
 
You must be refering to the late Dickie Rosenfeld. "PAD-NUH" wouldn't be happy with today's radio at all. Thats not the point. Spots are selling at lower rates across the board in this industry. CBS is not the only one. The rest of them are doing it too. I don't know who your sources are, however, I consider myself to be a source. That's probably because I work there. I've been with that operation on and off since 1984.
 
Oh Chuck,

You don't know anything. You're a on air talent for christs sakes, a part-time one at that. CBS appreciates your die-hard raa raa attitude but cbs is in big trouble.

And NO not all companies are have trouble. Clear Channel is doing very well! THEY learned their lesson, CBS so far, Hasn't. The blunders keep coming! :-\
 
The CBS model is to dump its smaller market clusters/stations...last I checked Dallas and Houston were Major Market outlets, major assets.

Some companies want to own major market outlets like CBS, some want to own more medium market stations like Entercom, and some want to own everything, like CC. Which having been a CC employee (with no axe to grind, but as a stock holder) they haven't learned really anything. Their theory is to corner a marketplace..i.e. to control market share in their respective locales..so that way advertisers, agencies, have to buy them because they have the 55% max market share or something close. Content really is secondary to CC. Not to say they don't have some very good Programmers, talent, and stations, but if the product is good, that is only an added benefit of their critical mass business plan. "Less Is More"...just common sense that you cannot have huge spot loads every hour and expect to retain listeners...hardly programming genius. Now they are offering blinks (1 second spots) and are told to sell :30 spots vs. :60 (which actually is better...word economy, say with less words get to the point, it sounds better, more intelligent, clears up the message) and :15's as well. But if they would just review the tons of perceptual research available on spot loads/stopsets, they would see it is more about the amount of spots, vs. the amount of time. 4-5 ads is still 4-5 ads to a listener, whether it is 5 minutes or 2 minutes.

Tookie, could CBS sell? Sure, and so could CC, look at ABC...they did. But you need to better understand the lay of the land and the business model before you do the "chicken little" routine. CBS will stay very entrenched in its Major Market operations(of which H-town and Big D are) and a few select markets 11-25 especially where they have an O&O TV station. But they will sell the rest and be more lean and mean in the major cities.
 
My hat is off to you Chuck. Staying on the high road is not always the easy thing to do when these guys keep pushing all the right buttons trying to piss you off...

I, like you, have been through so many sales and management changes I'm not sure I can remember them all...but nothing major ever really came as a direct result of the changes. Now I know some owners come in and clean house or just run everyone off....but that can also happen without an ownership change. Its the nature of the beast we have chosen as our profession.

And one more thing... Clear Channel may not be in any big trouble...but they too went through a big management realignment today... so once again, changes do not necessarily come about as a result of trouble or ownership changes.... they just happen and we learn to adjust to them.

Thats my 2 cents worth. Its all I can afford today....

Kevin Charles
 
I stand behind what i said. I would love to have a dime everytime a company said they would never sale. :D

You can talk business models all day long. Sometimes human nature works in mysterious ways. Just ask anyone on Wall Street.
 
Chuck Tiller said:
Spots are selling at lower rates across the board in this industry. CBS is not the only one.

Not so. Analysts report that spot loads are down nationally, and revenue is flat, so the unit rate per spot is up.
 
Tookie, you can stand behind what you said think all day long...you are still wrong on this, sorry. Can happen, sure. But won't in this instant.
 
Chuck, I applaud your decorom in this thread. I also applaud your independence from corp radio reliance. Anyone, and that includes everyone from the part time board ops to the executive vp's, working in the corp radio environment must ALWAYS be prepared for the inevitable. It's not a people business anymore. It's a stockholders' business. As an employee in that environment you have to watch the financials, like the one David Eduardo describes in this thread. When you start seeing negative trends across multiple business measurement ratios then you prepare for a change. Unfortunately for most folks in the radio business, they don't consider that, thus are normally surprised when changes happen. I started thinking that way in my last couple of years on the corp side and saw changes far in advance of them occurring and was able to jump in the positive direction before being swept away in the tidal wave. I have no regrets whatsoever. Chuck, I love your attitude about CBS whether they sell or not. I happen to be in the camp that believes CBS will not sell major market stations. Sumner Redstone is consolidating all of his businesses to only the most consistently profitable ones. Major market radio is still very profitable if operated correctly and that means having the best people in the right places and not scattered accross too many markets. With ipods and sat broadcasting, radio owners know they must realize diminished rates of return in the spot business and must concentrate on revenue from podcasting, Internet and other related revenue sources. Redstone knows this and that's why you'll see him shed markets like Austin and SA and move only his best people into his major markets. Unfortunately, those that don't make Sumner's cuts will be at the mercy of the new station owners. That also means the weaker links at the major market stations have to be wary that their jobs could be taken by Redstone's top smaller market operators. Chuck, your thinking is dead on. Enjoy your relationship with CBS knowing that any change will not affect your life. I'll bet having your approach to this business makes you stronger in CBS's eyes anyway.
 
I've had the privilege to work with Chuck Tiller in the past. Chuck's adoration for this business parallels mine. You couldn't ask for a better, more reliable, passionate-about-this-business, class act than Chuck Tiller. He'll tell it to you like it is. If you read something on this board, or elsewhere, by Chuck Tiller...you can pretty well bet your ass that he is as close to accurate as anyone on this board. He's been in this business, small market and large, for many years. If someone...anyone...knows their stuff, and knows what they're talking about, it is "my man" Chuck Tiller.

Chuck taught me everything I knew about how to do things at KILT...except, of course, how to drop the F-bomb during an aborted traffic report.
 
In defense of Tookiebird, he was just pointing out that if (and it's a big if since we keep hearing CBS is only going to sell off their smaller markets) CBS was to sell off Houston and Dallas it would not be in an employees inbox. The employees would be the last to know. Tookiebird is exactly right about that.
 
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