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How Does Rewind Perform in the Ratings?

Please pardon my Dayton tangent: I always get a smile when someone totals up the class B's in the Valley and excludes WFCJ and WEEC. It's like those two don't exist. At least to me that lack of top-of-mind speaks volumes about how they impact the community.
 
TheProToolsParadox said:
Please pardon my Dayton tangent: I always get a smile when someone totals up the class B's in the Valley and excludes WFCJ and WEEC. It's like those two don't exist. At least to me that lack of top-of-mind speaks volumes about how they impact the community.

Can't forget 90.3 WKCD "KLove" :)
 
Jason Roberts said:
Well, Dayton has (if you only count the original big signals...not the move-ins), 4 class B's. (WHKO, WTUE, Mix (the former WDAO-FM) and Channel (The former WVUD). We were just "blessed" (and I use that term with a grin) that some radio owners way back when had the foresight to go for a bigger signal for their "local" small town stations, which, if you think about it, may have landlocked bigger signals out of C-town. Could that have been lack of foresight for Columbus in the early days of FM, even though WBNS-FM was one of the earliest FM stations in the country? It dates back to the days of Ed Armstrong and was once on, if memory serves me right 42 mhz?

Also a point to ponder - Richmond, Indiana has 2 class B signals. Go figure.

All really good points. Columbus owners (except perhaps CC, particularly with 93.3) haven't grasped the bull by the horns in effecting strong move-ins, and now the opportunities to do so have dwindled because of that "landlocking out of Columbus" effect that resulted from earlier, aggressive move-in strategies in Dayton and elsewhere. In 40 years Columbus had only one move-in that truly qualifies as city-grade, namely 93.3. And CC was creative and aggressive about that one -- all while managing to prevent wiping out a service in Chillicothe.
 
xmusicmatt said:
TheProToolsParadox said:
Please pardon my Dayton tangent: I always get a smile when someone totals up the class B's in the Valley and excludes WFCJ and WEEC. It's like those two don't exist. At least to me that lack of top-of-mind speaks volumes about how they impact the community.

Can't forget 90.3 WKCD "KLove" :)

Only reason I didn't mention them is: are they commercial services? If not, they are not "in competition" in the commercial sense with the other B's...
 
Jason Roberts said:
xmusicmatt said:
TheProToolsParadox said:
Please pardon my Dayton tangent: I always get a smile when someone totals up the class B's in the Valley and excludes WFCJ and WEEC. It's like those two don't exist. At least to me that lack of top-of-mind speaks volumes about how they impact the community.

Can't forget 90.3 WKCD "KLove" :)

Only reason I didn't mention them is: are they commercial services? If not, they are not "in competition" in the commercial sense with the other B's...

No need for any defense, J. :) What I wrote was meant as an indictment about the state of those two freqs. I've lived near Dayton for years and still have to stop and ponder "what station is that" when the scan lands on one of them.
 
Jason Roberts said:
xmusicmatt said:
TheProToolsParadox said:
Please pardon my Dayton tangent: I always get a smile when someone totals up the class B's in the Valley and excludes WFCJ and WEEC. It's like those two don't exist. At least to me that lack of top-of-mind speaks volumes about how they impact the community.

Can't forget 90.3 WKCD "KLove" :)

Only reason I didn't mention them is: are they commercial services? If not, they are not "in competition" in the commercial sense with the other B's...

That is true, those stations have been religious for so long that outside of their specific audience no one really notices that they exist.

According to FCC records, WFCJ is licensed commercial and WEEC is licensed as non-commercial. I don't listen to either so I am not sure what WFCJ does with the programming (run commercials, ask for donations, or both). WKCD is of course in the reserved band, and EMF runs all their signals as non-commercial even if not in the reserved band so they can get main studio waivers and run them without local staffing.

I'm sure many have come calling waving big $$$ at WFCJ and WEEC over the years but as long as the donations and money from the ministries that buy the airtime comes in I am sure things will stay as always. I believe they have merged some operations and are building a shared studio facility at the Athletes in Action campus in Xenia.
 
And I have to have great respect for WFCJ, as it was with their help and moral support that a bunch of young high school students built a radio station at Miamisburg High School back in 1973-74 with some equipment donated by WFCJ taken out of their storage shed (garage?).

I should know. I was one of those students. And both the Gates "Level Devil" (renamed "Guardian Angel") and the six channel console went refurbished and into use when the station signed on the air in March of 1974...
 
Jason Roberts said:
OK, I agree it might have been nice had there been a couple more class B's there, but remember...Columbus has a class C (WNCI at 175,000 watts). How many other of those are in Ohio?

Not quite. Ohio has only one class C, which is the former WPAY-FM (now WNKE) by virtue of its tower being in Kentucky. It's actually a C0 now.

While WNCI has facilities comparable to a class C, the FCC regards it as a class B and only protects it to class B levels.
 
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