wpb1999 said:
You could say that will all formats though. Look at all the pop artists that have done hip hop records. What about all the rock singers who do things will pop records or hip hop records.. Heck even Country crossed over.
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You could say that will all formats though. Look at all the pop artists that have done hip hop records. What about all the rock singers who do things will pop records or hip hop records.. Heck even Country crossed over.
Seltzer said:
Definitely, it will be WFAN on 660 AM and 92.3 FM. The Yankees' deal with WCBS actually expired last year but was extended through this season to coincide with the Mets' deal with WFAN, which also expires at the end of the 2012 season. It's quite possible WFAN will let the Mets' deal expire and go with the Yankees in 2013. By the time this all goes down, we'll know the fate of 92.3 Now-FM.
radioguy39nj said:Seltzer said:
Definitely, it will be WFAN on 660 AM and 92.3 FM. The Yankees' deal with WCBS actually expired last year but was extended through this season to coincide with the Mets' deal with WFAN, which also expires at the end of the 2012 season. It's quite possible WFAN will let the Mets' deal expire and go with the Yankees in 2013. By the time this all goes down, we'll know the fate of 92.3 Now-FM.
Isn't this splitting hairs? Both WCBS and WFAN are owned by the same company, so it is entirely possible that switching the teams is an internal and strategic change, coordinated with the teams. Nobody is "letting the deal expire" as the deals are, at the end of the day, all with CBS.
wpb1999 said:
"There is really no such thing as a dance format". If I had a dollar for all the years I hear something like this, I'd be a trillionaire (man I wish that was the case because I would buy up a couple of radio stations, make them dance and prove you naysayers ALL WRONG!)
Okay, I'll entertain this. Right now you are hearing a lot of the crossover from mainstream artists (mainly rhythmic such as Rihanna, Flo Rida, Pitbull, etc.) as they are collaborating with dance music DJ's/producers such as David Guetta, Benny Benassi, Calvin Harris just to name a few. In that sense, though core fans may differ from this thinking, dance music has become part of the mainstream.
NOW, from our point of view, we have a lot of artists that are branded as dance such as Sylvia Tosun, Kim Sozzi, Lucas Prata, Wynter Gordon, Jes (it's okay if you don't know some of these names) that are very popular with those that follow dance (aka: the Pulse 87 FM audience). Yet while their material has strong radio potential, with the exception of Brett on Z88.9 no one is covering this. Yes you would need some of the commercial mainstream influence on such a station. HOWEVER, you also add in these and other artists along with certain tracks that may be instrumental in nature but has strong appeal to the dance community (such as Avicii's "Levels"). Hip-hop (and we're talking the Hot 97 brand) won't fly for this. Put a dance/rhythmic station like this in New York and it will be in the Top 5. If it wasn't for the low dial location and weak antenna, Pulse 87 would have been in the top 5.
Limited? FAR FROM IT. I've mentioned vocal singers. But THIS TIME AROUND, we also have a strong EDM culture consisting of DJ's that are "rockstars" of sorts such as Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren, Paul Van Dyk, Laidback Luke, Afrojack, etc. With STRONG turnouts at events such as Electric Zoo, their productions can go into this format as well. Then you have "dubstep" which is INSANELY popular amongst the college crowd yet has its own issues within the dance community. Do you incorporate dubstep tracks into the format? Or do you give a specialty show to it. The bigger question is...would you make this station stay on the current, or do you flash it back to older sounds (such as freestyle...which is what Pulse 87 did).
The format name would be "dance/rhythmic CHR". None of the hip-hop aspect of CHR, none of the alternative rock (with the exception of Coldplay since Fedde LeGrand, another big DJ/producer, did a remixed version of "Paradise" that is HUGE right now).
I can keep going and going on this.
Better yet, I will be on DriveFX in the Hudson Valley tomorrow (Tuesday, Feb. 21st @ 7PM on 94.1/95.7 - use Tune In Radio for your phone). Tune in if you want to know more.
http://www.foxradio.net/drivefx/
Let me add to this argument....
WEEI, the sports station in Boston on 850AM, have started simulcasting on 93.7 FM not too long ago. I'm asking over on the Boston board about the numbers, if it indeed is doing better than the former WMKK (Mike 93.7) and if people are beginning to think of 93.7 for WEEI instead of 850AM.
Should be interesting to find out.....
WEEI, the sports station in Boston on 850AM, have started simulcasting on 93.7 FM not too long ago. I'm asking over on the Boston board about the numbers, if it indeed is doing better than the former WMKK (Mike 93.7) and if people are beginning to think of 93.7 for WEEI instead of 850AM.
Should be interesting to find out.....
DavidEduardo said:radioguy39nj said:Seltzer said:
Definitely, it will be WFAN on 660 AM and 92.3 FM. The Yankees' deal with WCBS actually expired last year but was extended through this season to coincide with the Mets' deal with WFAN, which also expires at the end of the 2012 season. It's quite possible WFAN will let the Mets' deal expire and go with the Yankees in 2013. By the time this all goes down, we'll know the fate of 92.3 Now-FM.
Isn't this splitting hairs? Both WCBS and WFAN are owned by the same company, so it is entirely possible that switching the teams is an internal and strategic change, coordinated with the teams. Nobody is "letting the deal expire" as the deals are, at the end of the day, all with CBS.
Just a quick clarification. The Yankees are consistent winners each year and given the Mets' poor fortunes on and off the field, the Yankees will get higher ratings and bring in more ad revenue. My thought is that the WFAN and CBS will not renew the Mets and let them go to another station, most likely WEPN, whether it's on 1050 AM or an FM signal. CBS would then move the Yankees to WFAN.
No doubt, CBS would like the Yankees on WFAN, and the Yankees would rather be there than on WCBS for the additional round the clock Yankee buzz with the Sports Talk audience if nothing else.
But I suspect CBS will also try to keep the Mets, just in case they finally get hot.( we haven't lost all hope have we??)
The question of which CBS station to put the Mets on probably depends more on whether FM News, WEMP, finally starts to gain some traction against WCBS-AM and WINS, and becomes a viable threat, and whether WEPN gets an FM signal. If CBS is forced to switch 92.3 to Sports Talk, then WFAN-AM could carry the Yankees and WFAN-FM could carry the Mets.
No doubt, WEPN would also make a good effort to get either team, but if it's FM signal is as limited as its current AM signal then it will also need suburban affiliate stations to fill in the entire New York Market like the football Jets do. For that reason, the Mets might rather stay with a full market signal and WABC and WOR might be interested if they will get a cume boost and a chance to make some extra money.
TimeIsTight said:
The Mets as a business are virtually bankrupt. They have a bigger chance of closing up shop than getting hot. They are expected to do worse this year than in previous years, and we all know how poor those years were. I just don't see them being able to command any big radio contract.
ansky212 said:
And you have stations like Hot 97 and Power 105 playing some of the songs that you hear on 92.3 and Z100. You also have stations like Mega and X96.3 playing these same rhythmic/dance songs as well. A station that can put all this music under one big umbrella of a Top 40 Dance format can be wildly popular and a ratings winner in NYC.
ansky212 said:
The great thing about New York is that the population is high. The same combination of stations could not work in say, Rochester, Minnesota because the population is much lower. Advertisers pay proportionally to the number of listeners, but the cost of operating a radio station varies much less with the population of the market.
radioguy39nj said:
Finally, the Mets and JETS can be on the same station.
As for NOW, i wish I could hear the clock ticking.
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Morpheux said:
The same thing happens with classic rock too. There's a lot of overlap between the Q and WDHA, even Lite FM sometimes (particularly Journey). RXP had too many songs in common with them when they were around. I swear that the majority of DHA's X-mas songs were copied off Lite FM's playlist, which drove me up the wall.
DavidEduardo said:
No....Baltimore....
From what I heard from connections in the industry is that 92.3 is definitely on the verge of a major format change. I don't know what, but that is what I heard. I was called in for an interview over there and they cancelled it thirty minutes after I got there citing "the Giants superbowl win". They said someone would call me and they never did. I told this to some of my connections in the industry and they said the reason that they didn't call me back was probably because of the probable format change. CBS is a good company and I trust they will do the right thing... 8)
I wish I could GET an interview at CBS.
Perhaps an indication of whether CBS is serious about maintaining the current CHR format, and taking it to the next level is whether they hire a high profile replacement for their former morning personality Nick Cannon.broadcastergeek said:
I would venture a guess CBS will not decide this till it becomes clear whether WFME 94.7 will be converted into a sports station.
Barry said:
I concur. If ESPN lands on either 94.7 or 107.5, then CBS will flip 92.3 to a WFAN simulcast. CBS won't let WEPN established a beachhead on FM while WFAN remains AM only, unlike Philadelphia where CBS waited nearly three years before moving WIP to FM against WPEN-FM (97.5 The Fanatic).
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